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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:33 PM Original message |
Do we all realize just how morbidly sick a society would be to extend tax cuts for the uber-wealthy |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. as sick as it is now |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. As sick as it was during the Roman Empire. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why do the rethugs get away with this messaging, and OT, but |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And I thought it was just practically every time. In any event, point right on |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Haha! Uh oh, |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. The oligarchs are winning: the White House, the Congress, the public sphere. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. Refusal Of the Rich To Be Taxed, Sir, And Failure Of The Government To Punish That Refusal |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's interesting, do you have a specific link? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. No Link, Sir, Just Years Of Reading |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. You really should post that as an OP.. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. Thanks for the enlightenment |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
38. I hope it is correct. nt |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Years ago, I remember reading about the Roman aqueducts... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Rome, Sir, Has Aptness As An Instructive Example |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. The last paragraph in your post, sir... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Thank you. I always appreciate your posts. nm |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. aqueducts were also made of lead |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
8. How's about a society that raises taxes on the 5% who do 37% of consumer spending |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The Money Raised In Taxes Is Spent, Ma'am |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It is happening now. The middle and lower class are saving what they can. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It Is Because People Are Saving,Ma'am, That Government Must Spend |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
42. Yes people are saving and while that is a good thing overall it is bad news in a recession. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I'm on Social Security. Right now, my husband and I spend |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. The rail system in this country, and particularly here in Calif., is a |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. This is especially important because we have an aging population. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. My mom is 87. She depends on me and my brother to get her around. There |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. We Are Not Dependent On Their Spending, Ma'am |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
81. Your patience is admirable. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Yes, because... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Chan790, you are so right. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. How's about we give it the old college try, HMMMM? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. The "lower class" cannot save; they must, contrary to myth, eat and try to be domiciled. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. And The Aim Of The Boss, Ma'am, Is To Pay Wages That Provide For Subsistence Only |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. Most of us don't have anything to save. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Amen! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. oooh, the poor dears. one can always find you sticking up for the powerful. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Oh they won't suffer, but we may if they close their pocketbooks. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. don't make them mad! they might hurt us by closing their pocketbooks! |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Do you want to point out that they already closed the pocketbook or should I? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. lick their boots, lick them! |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. The rich will always spend. Who are you trying to kid/scare? There are too many yachts for the |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. The rich had pulled back spending and only started to ramp up earlier this year. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. dkf, they closed their pocketbooks long ago. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 06:59 AM Response to Reply #51 |
84. Nother nice post, JDPriestly. |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
61. If the rich have that much control over 95% of Americans, then it's time to change that. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 06:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
83. Funny how the wealthy spent |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. While the 5% might do 37% of consumer spending, what makes you think a 4.6% hike in taxes will |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Nice that you ignore the other 63%....WHO WOULD SPEND IF THEY HAD MORE MONEY. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
86. Exactly....nt |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Well, gee, if anyone else had any money to spend maybe the |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
85. Great point! nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. Isn't if funny how "new" Dems... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Hogwash |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. At this point.. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-05-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. We've already shit the bed....it doesn't matter anymore. |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
14. Welcome to the real world. America's 'ideals' may have just been a mirage. |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. Not any sicker than a society that would give George W. Bush two terms in office |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Or one term, for that matter. |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I hear ya. When we are "thanking" President Bush, as we've been encouraged to do lately... |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. And why not Rummy, Condi, Colon, Wolfie, Ashcroft and Feith for good measure, just to |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. And to think that even one of junior's harmful/wrong-headed policies or actions were ratified/ |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. CORRECT.....WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS,,,,,,, |
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gophates (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. *we* do. Unfortunately, the morons don't see it this way. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
23. "There is no god, but Dolla'!" |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I always liked "You cannot serve God and Mammon" better. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. I thought it would trickle down |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. The last time money trickled down... |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I love saying this |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Those were the good ol' days. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
35. same society that has 'regular' people whining about taxing big oil |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. let them eat tax cuts. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. No more depraved than requiring people to BUY Health Insurance... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. Yes, it's depraved. It's almost literally cannibalistic. |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. I doubt it! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
62. The politicians do not care... |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. "they can always bring Blackwater (or who ever they are now)" |
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freedom fighter jh (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
66. Especially considering that soc sec is funded by a regressive tax. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Another factor making Social Security so regressive is that |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. Low income recipients are already in abject poverty. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 07:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
87. It would chop the head |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
70. Glad to be # 100 in recommendations. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Hey mod, I am glad to be 120. nm |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
74. K & R |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
77. K&R |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
78. That's because we are a morbidly ignorant society. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
79. It is not the American "society" extending the cuts to the |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
82. If they do extend the tax cuts |
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