If we don't all turn into yellow dawg Democrats this November, then hello President Boehner.

[Cleita]

If we don't turn out in droves at the polls this November and vote for every Democrat on the ticket, no matter how hard you have to hold your nose, this is what the horrendous outcome could be before 2012. A Yellow Dawg Democract means, "I'd rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican!."

If we lose the House we will get John Boehner as Speaker of the House and that puts him as second after Joe Biden in line for the Presidency if something happens to Obama. Now, what could happen to Obama? Congressman Darryl Issa is waiting in the wings to bring down President Obama with impeachment and any number of tactics to get him out of office. Before you dismiss Issa as a player, let me remind you that he almost single handedly brought down Governor Grey Davis in California months after he had been reelected to his second term with trumped up half-truths and out and out lies. He had unlimited funds. Now he alone, although a very rich man, didn't have deep enough pockets to pay for the campaign waged against Davis so that money came from very deep pockets elsewhere. Those deep pockets stand poised to bring down our Democratic majority government if we let the camel's nose back under the tent. There are rumors that Issa is being tapped to bring a game plan for impeachment charges on Obama if the House gains power.

I believe all this birther and Muslim nonsense is a propaganda ploy, a precursor to softening up the uninformed voters for the real salvos that will start the minute Boehner is sworn in as Speaker of the House. That old sun-burned drunk is a tool in the hands of those crafting the war strategy to bring down this government in the back rooms of think tanks funded by the Mellon-Sciafe and Heritage Foundation coffers. They will get another counsel like Ken Starr to throw as much mud at Obama about all these allegations and more until they find something that sticks. Then they will go after Biden. They could accomplish this before 2012 if the speed with which they got rid of Davis is a indicator. With Boehner is office, most likely he will be reelected in 2012.

I hate to be so pessimistic, but I believe we have to keep Congress and the Senate this November or there will be no more real democracy in the USA for a very long time. Drag everyone that you know, who is a registered Democrat or Independent to the polls this November to vote for the Democrat on the ticket. Our very great nation may depend on it. Also, if there are any real investigative reporters left in Southern California, now is the time to dig up every scandal you can on Issa and publish it. I know his hands are very dirty. It's time to expose him and bring him down before he brings our President and our nation down.

[jdadd]

1. I've been a yellow dog for years.......

See my avatar....:thumbsup:

[madokie]

38. I've always been a yellow dawg democrat

and will continue to be one. I did vote for a pukie once but it was because he was my friend and he truly was the better man for the job

[bobbolink]

2. Voting against our own interests....

:nuke:

Yet, when RWers do that, we loudly make fun of them.

:wtf:

[Cleita]

4. Okay, so don't turn out to vote or vote for a third party

and give it to the Republicans? That's your solution?

:eyes:

I hope you remember these words you just typed when they succeed in taking away your social security and Medicare benefits.

[Capitalocracy]

7. Bush didn't succeed at that. Obama might. nt

[ThomCat]

19. It has been DEMOCRATS who succeeded in

permanently limiting access to welfare and permanently increasing structural poverty in the US,

It was DEMOCRATS who succeeded in implementing NAFTA and free trade, permanently ruining the economy of 3 nation, permanently sending millions of jobs oversees, decimating the wages and benefits of remaining jobs, and creating a massive transfer of wealth to the rich.

It was DEMOCRATS who have now succeeded in creating a program to mandate that by law everyone in the use MUST spend up to 22% of all income buying insurance policies that we may not be able to afford to use, because there is no guarantee that the co-pays and deductibles will be low enough for people to be able to afford to use the insurance. And even then, that insurance may only cover 80% of costs, leaving people horribly indebted from even minor illnesses.

Democrats have done these things to destroy poor and middle class people, that Republicans could only HOPE to have accomplished. :(

[bobbolink]

25. Thanks for laying it out so clearly!

Yet, just watch... if the Dems lose in November, it is *WE* who will be vilified.

Hey, Thom... we are the new Ralph Nader! :toast:

:rofl:

[ThomCat]

30. Yes, from the day the Democratic party decided that

Corporate money was more reliable and more plentiful than just the labor movement's money the Democratic party has turned it's back on all of us.

Yet we are expected to all be blindly loyal. And we are blamed when when the party fails. The party isn't blamed for failing us.

Sick how that works. But we're poor and powerless, and they now have all that corporate money, so of course the finger always has to point at us. x(

[bobbolink]

31. So, let 'em suck at the corporate teet.... we have other uses for our money and energy.

Like, coming together and fighting the corporate beast!

:pals:

[JanusAscending]

37. Than why the hell are you here on DU???

[readmoreoften]

40. Because someone who wants to fight for Social Security isn't the enemy of Democrats.

And if those who insist that the Democrats stand up for workers are the enemy of the Democratic Party, then the Democratic Party is the enemy of the American people to near the same extent as the Republican Party

[JanusAscending]

43. I'm LIVING on Social Security

and would fight to the death for it, however I am a DEMOCRAT that's why I am on this forum...to support, and help Democrats win their elections. This is not the right place to "knock them down" To this old Democrat..it borders on treason. I would prefer more left leaning Dems too, but damned if I'll EVER choose an independant, or a repuke or any other over a Democrat. I'd be too ashamed to show my face on this site. I can no longer get to the polls because of my health, but I vote absentee, so there is NO EXCUSE for not bothering to vote. Only complacent losers go that route! (or those that didn't get "the pony" they expected!! Bunch of babies in my book!

[ThomCat]

47. So you're one of those people

Who thing anyone who sees the truth about the way the party has changed just wants a pony?

What a way to belittle people!

And you talk about other people being traitors?

We are the ones fighting to protect social security a hell of a lot more than you! You bend over and accept anything Dems do just because they are dems, so you'll let them steal your social security. WE are the ones who will fight Our Own Party to prevent them doing what wall street wants and taking social security away.

[JanusAscending]

52. Oh?....and tell me please ..just how do You propose we do this?

Show me a plan that WILL NOT FAIL!! In the meantime I'll take me chances with a Democrat every time. You need to get a clue! How old are you? Just wonderin'!

[ThomCat]

54. A plan that will not fail?

Nobody can predict the future to know in advance to know whether or not a plan with fail or not. So the whole idea of demanding a plan that will not fail is sheer stupidity.

My age? Why would you ask for that? So you can insult me because of my age?

Sorry, I don't let people bait me that easily. :eyes:

[JanusAscending]

57. Fine! Have a nice life!

I wasn't trying to bait you...just wondered if perhaps we had NAYTHING in common. I'm not an "ageist" at 71. Maybe a little wiser? who knows? See ya!

[ThomCat]

48. Because as bad as the democrats are,

they are the lessor of two evils. So if anything is going to be accomplished, it is going to happen from within THIS party.

Because this is MY party too, and I won't let the complacent bastards who are in love with the party's public relations and press releases drive me away, just because the rest of you the are in love with photo ops and think everything is all pretty and shiny and perfect with everything the party does.

[Cleita]

46. I agree with you ThomCat, the Democrats haven't

been wonderful. We have a two party system, so we have to pick sides.They are the better choice and this November they are the only choice or we may find the last remnants of our Constitution in shreds when the Republican Warlocks take over completely.

[bobbolink]

24. No, I should vote to benefit the rest of you, while you continue to ignore those whose votes you

have always counted on.

The time comes to truly understand that what affects one of us affects all of us.

But, go ahead.... blame those who are ignored.

That's soooo productive.

[bobbolink]

27. "I hope you remember these words you just typed when they succeed in taking away your social securit

and Medicare benefits."

I just saw your parting shot.

Dear, this is what Obama is doing RIGHT FUCKING NOW, to quote Sapphire Blue.

I have posted about it extensively.... thousands of lives are right now in the balance.

I was asking for help in getting this stopped before the deaths start.

Yet, interestingly, I don't remember *your* name among the posters willing to fight it, and rolling up their sleeves to get started on it.

There's still room.. YOU could still make some effort to keep this from happening.

Or, you could post snark.

[Cleita]

35. Really some weird accusations here considering

you don't know what I do for our causes when I'm not posting here. Vote for whomever you like, however, don't insinuate that Obama is worse than any Republican who might replace him.

[bobbolink]

49. "accusations"? In your mind, maybe. The accusations were aimed at ME.

"you don't know what I do for our causes when I'm not posting here."

That is a nice treer to hide behind, as is standard on DU, but it means nothing. NOTHING.

It is obvious that poverty isn't a priority, or there would have been a massive outcry over cutting food stamps, etc.

And speaking of that.... Cuts to food stamps didn't happen under *, did they? Neither did the purge of disabiliity people that is happening now, did it? I said openly in '08 that Obama didn't care about poverty, and of course, all I got was the standard "Are you kidding? He grew up in poverty." Which means... exactly nothing.

I didn't expect him to do anything FOR us, but I sure didn't expect he would make it worse.

I understand your personal animosity to me, but attacking me because so many people are GETTING IT that we don't have any friends in D.C. is just plain silly. As if *I* have some control over what other poor people do. I suppose when the vote results come in, and you find that the Dems finally lost the poor vote, you will post my words (which would be against the rules, but I don't expect a detail like that to stop anyone on DU anymore) and blame me.

*I* am the messenger. I am telling you, and have been now for a couple of years, what is happening, and how poor people are seeing things.

The Dems have alienated poor folk, and it has been said here that it doesn't matter... "We don't need your stinkin' votes". Fine. We got the message.

The Dems have also succeeded in alienating labor, teachers, and are now thumbing their nose at elders.

Good luck with all that.

And good luck with doing your GOTV, and castigating people when they tell you they are too disgusted to do as you wish them to do. Castigation is sure to win many votes, isn't it? Because in a lot of ways, that is all Dems have left.

[griffi94]

17. you have to vote against your own interests

so we can win. then when we win...well your issues still won't be a priority, but in 2 years you'll need to vote against your own interest again so we can win. and so on and so forth.

probly your issues will never be addressed, but that shouldn't matter. remember the repubs are worse. if the repubs win, they won't even pretend to care about your issues the democrats will at least pretend to care.

[bobbolink]

26. "if the repubs win, they won't even pretend to care about your issues the democrats will at least

pretend to care."

You got it egggsackly right!

They want our vote to get in a better Supreme Court Jusice (although Obama certainly isn't going to the wall on that, either, is he?), then maybe they better at least throw us a bone.

They want a Dem majority in the Senate to continue to bow to the RW, and pass luke-warm bills? Then they better make sure that AT THE VERY LEAST, WE AREN'T GETTING MORE CUTS TO BENEFITS!

And on and on.... that's the nature of politics... "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours." The scratching has been all one-sided for a very long time now. Yet, they still expect obedience from the ones continually scratching their backs. Where I come from, that's known as GREEDY and SELFISH.

Let the scratching begin... :hi:

[UTUSN]

3. K&R #3 n/t

[IndianaJoe]

5. The prospect of Boehner as Speaker does not thrill me.

But he's such a stupid shit that, of all the jerks they could put in that position, he might be the best one from our standpoint. If the American people want a reminder about what Republican governance is all about, Boehner would be a fine exemplar of the typical Republican party brand of stupidity and ineptitude.

[Cleita]

6. Did you read my whole post?

He's exactly what the boys in the back room want. Someone who is stupid and inebriated like Bush, that they can manipulate, so they can deregulate more, take away all government social programs, invite in foreign interests and funnel your tax money into their bank accounts.

[IndianaJoe]

8. I don't relish the thought of losing the House.

But it could very well happen. But I don't see Obama getting impeached. That would work about as well for Republicans as when they tried it with Clinton. If we can keep the Senate and the WH, we can hopefully retard most of their mischief.

And I am a "yellow dog" Dem.

[suzie]

53. It's not actual impeachment, it's the endless hearings, investigations and stopping

anything from getting done.

New Supreme Court justice? Filling all the positions in the Administration? Forget about it.

[femrap]

9. Please don't make me look at

The Orange Man....I won't be able to bear it. :puke:

[kentuck]

10. K & R

Cleita, I have always appreciated your fighting spirit and never-say-die attitude.

Thank you very much.

[Cleita]

11. Thanks Kentuck.

Sometimes it's very hard.

[OneGrassRoot]

13. I second that! K&R :) n/t

[mitchtv]

12. I will vote "mostly Dem"

There is a homophobe Dem running for state senate who will never get my vote , sorry

[Cleita]

34. I'm asking for Congress in November.

I'm not too concerned about state elections other than Governor.

[mitchtv]

39. well then

I will be voting DEM , Sadly my candidate will succmb to the losing Dem strategy of helping only some. We have a weak repub that was targeted, but I thing that,s going back to the old(McAullife) days, I have little hope

[Riftaxe]

14. Never in the few decades I have been voting

have I ever agreed with every candidate from municipal to national on a ticket.

People who vote straight ticket usually fall into two categories, the extremists and the lazy.

Since I am neither of those, I will continue my practice of procuring an advance ballot and researching each candidate before determining if they are worth my vote.

[WinkyDink]

23. Well, aren't you special? I vote straight D, always have, always will.

I am not as energetic or moderate as you.

[Cleita]

33. The problem with that is each candidate, when elected.

is expected to caucus with his party and for the most part they do. So giving a vote to let's say a moderate Republican still throws the House vote to the Repubs.

[rug]

15. If we don't vote Democratic, Obama and Biden will die?

This is getting more and more bizarre.

[Catshrink]

28. Every time a Democrat votes for a Republican, a puppy dies.

[gateley]

16. Agree. Recommend. nt

[Bobbieo]

18. I have only voted for one Republican in all of my voting years. That

was for Barry Goldwater for Senate way back in the 1950s. You make good sense, Cleita and you are "Right On".

[stray cat]

20. Just think you get rid of all the yellow Dawgs and get REAL Boehner clones

its the progressive way!

[elocs]

21. The time to get rid of the yellow dog Dems is in the primaries, not in the general election.

Giving over control of either or both houses of Congress only hurts all Democrats, even the progressive ones. Unfortunately too many Democrats seem to want to bite off their noses to teach their faces a lesson. Stupid.

[JanusAscending]

51. Pssst!.....

Yellow Dog = GOOD
BLUE Dog = bad....but Democrat at least! You get rid of these when there is a "shew in replacement" one who cannot lose!!

[ThomCat]

55. Yellow dogs vote for blue dogs.

Yellow dogs means voting for anyone who is a democrat no matter how bad a democrat they are. Including the blue dogs. So that means never getting rid of the blue dogs.

[WinkyDink]

22. Yellow Dog FOREVAH!

[Canuckistanian]

29. I tend to believe you

Boehner is NOT the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree string. And his performance has been laughable as a political foe. But don't try to beat him at golf.

Remind you of anyone? He's the new "useful idiot", to be paraded and feted, while the REAL work is done in smoke-filled rooms.

But Issa as kingmaker? Nope, don't buy it.

[Cleita]

32. He destroyed Governor Grey Davis with a complicit media.

He's being tapped to do so again and also Michele Bachman. The media hasn't changed. I need to dig up the stories I've been reading about both of them to post them. I just don't have time right now. Issa is a real snake. I dunno about Michele. I haven't decided if she just crazy or crazy like a fox, however she has made the statement that if Repubs regain the House she will start investigations for impeaching Obama.

[JanusAscending]

36. Your very thoughts hit me in the head this morning

while watching Meet the Press!! The REpuke machine is gearing up for some big time election theft...thinking that we democrats are "in- fighting" and won't stand up for each other! This makes us weak and if you thought GW Bush was bad...wait and see what will happen if we lose our majority in the house and the Senate. You will be wishing for Bush back...because these guys are EVIL and will try to crucify our President. If you don't like or agree with all that he's done or tried to do so far, vote anyway. We can't afford to be complacent....it will be the end of Democracy as we know it if we lose in Nov. We need to get out the vote like we did in 08, our very lives depend on it! If it has a "D" attached to it...vote for it!!! When they started getting so smug and sure of themselves I thought they were blowing smoke through their asses, and now I really think they are UP TO SOMETHING! Open your eyes people!! GOTV

[Cleita]

45. There is something

to think about. The Repukes are so self-satisfied and the media is feeding them.

[readmoreoften]

41. The Democratic Party doesn't want my gay, retarded, liberal vote.

And it's not going to represent my retarded, gay, liberal interests. They can hit up one of those important independents they've been salivating for. I'm not too worried either, they'll get 'em.


Until someone actually DEALS WITH the Republican Party, they're always going to make the policy anyway. All I see the Obama Administration doing is privatizing crap that the Republicans aren't allowed to touch.

I'm voting for one Democrat, my congressman. He's just empty of shit enough for me to bother to pull a lever for.

All in all, these fuckers run society far beyond elections. Let's not kid ourselves.

[Zhade]

42. Oh, I'll vote for Dems -- as long as they haven't voted against me.

See, I'll vote. It just may not be the way you want me to. I don't support conservatives, period.

[Cleita]

44. There is a lot of holding noses and voting

in this election. But think about it, if you are a Nevada voter, do you want Sharron Angle or Harry Reid to be your senator?

Hey we are disappointed as Democrats with Senator Reid, but is Angle a better replacement?

[FirstLight]

50. K&R I am voting Dem for sure

Honestly, I don;t think there is any way I could ever bring myself to vote Rethug, their whole worldview is so skewed.

As one of the many Unemployed, welfare queens... I think it would be voting against my own interests anyway.

Jerry Brown, Boxer, and any other liberals I can throw in there...yep!

ANYTHING but having to look at or hear Boner on any kind of regular basis, he and his lot are crazy like foxes and I am so sick of the whole media giving them the advantage before the fact. It's funny, if you have read about the Law of Attraction, part of the act of making something so is acting as of it IS already...the media have been practicing this on a collective psyche for a long time. we need to unplug from the memes and make our OWN reality!

I want all of us to consider turning out in droves, if for no other reason than to prove them ALL wrong... we can gripe about what we are dissapointed with and haggle over the rest AFTER we hold our ground!

[Autumn]

56. We should be yellow dogs and

they should be blue dogs. Sure that will work, after all loyalty is a one way street.:puke: I'm sorry, it just doesn't do it for me anymore.