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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:23 PM
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Why Can't The Left Mobilize Resources Like The Right? Why don't we have a Murdoch or Koch...
Edited on Sat Sep-04-10 07:28 PM by TomCADem
...do keep Democrats in line? Where is the leadership on the left to keep Democrats in line?

Its like folks who apologize for President Obama and blame a right wing corporate controlled media, millions of dollars in corporate campaign dollars from front astroturf groups like the Freedom Works for Obama's declining poll numbers. We all know that this isn't the reason for President Obama's troubles. The real reason is lack of leadership on his part.

Likewise, the right has the Koch brothers, Rupert Murdoch, etc., who are not even elected, who are leaders in shaping right wing opinion, and keeping the electorate in line. Why can't the left do the same?

I know some folks will whine, like the Obama apologists, that the corporations are controlling the media and the narrative, and billionaires and the corporations they run are not going to fund anti-corporate policies, but this is just an excuse for lack of leadership!!!

If we had true leadership on the left we would be living in a liberal paradise right now, there would be peace in the Middle East, we would be out of Afganistan and Iraq, and North Korea would be standing down on Nukes. If we had true leadership on the left, unemployment would be less than 5 percent, the deficit would be a surplus, and Fox News would be sliding into bankruptcy! Arizona would never has passed that immigration law, off shore oil drilling would halted, but oil prices would be declining as we implemented new technologies to generate energy simply by rhyming.

The right does not need any stinking electeds to drive its narrative, so why should we? We just need some leadership on the left to do what the right does in order to begin to take back the Democratic party.

Where is the leadership?!?!?! The problems we have today is because the left cannot exert pressure on Democrats the way the right does on Republicans. Where is our Freedom Works? Where is our Newscorp? Even MSNBC gets cancelled out by the corporatist CNBC. Why isn't the left managing to get cable news organizations to provide hours of free air time to progressive candidates?

I am so mad and outraged that I am going to sit home on election day and show progressives and the left my true wrath! Or, I might vote for the vegetarian party candidate. Because, if I stay at home on election day, and withhold my vote, and refuse to organize, then I will truly be empowered!

So, who is with me? Who will sit home and type furiously on message boards and make fun of Bambi eyed Democratic activists who try to get people to vote? The true path to power is angry inaction and leadership!

Yes, We need leadership on the left to keep our Democratics leaders honests, and until we get it, and I start see some progressive change, then I will sit home and pout furiously!

Why is Meg Whitman on the verge of kicking Jerry Brown's a#$? No, its not the fact that she is a billionaire spending millions to run her ads 24/7. Rather, its Jerry Brown's lack of leadership. Its thelack of leadership of liberals, progressives and the left. So, I will show them how angry I am by voting for the peace and freedom party because it has a nice sounding name. If we had real leadership, Jerry Brown would be farting rainbows, and pissing sunshine!

Fear me! I am the angry and apathetic left!

:rant:



:sarcasm:

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:25 PM
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1. Why the hell doesn't someone leave copies of George Lakoff's work all over the West Wing???????????
Edited on Sat Sep-04-10 07:25 PM by BrklynLiberal
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:28 PM
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2. Well, first off... the left doesn't attract billionaires because it represents the interests of the
working class. And with the unions depleted of funds and members, it doesn't bode well. Upper class and ruling class people donating "with a conscience" can't compare to a well-funded working class. This is a big problem.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:39 PM
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5. HA! You must be new to DU! Billionaires Only Fight Policies That They Really Support!
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Freedom Works, and the Republican party actually supported the corporatist policies pushed by Democrats like Healthcare Reform, Financial Reform, Cap and Trade, and the Stimulus. However, to avoid people supporting these policies, these groups spending millions of dollars, and enlisted spin doctors like Frank Lutz, to fight these policies and proposals to given Democrats the cover to support these policies! Likewise, Republicans who actually supported these policies, opposed them as a favor to Democrats to provide political cover.

Therefore, the key to success is to push for and advocate actual progressive policies!!! Then, the corporate right won't oppose them, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Freedom Works will stand down, and it will be easily passed!

Duh!

My goodness, I can't believe that no true person on the left figured this out. The right wing only spends millions opposing policies they actually support. Therefore, push for policies they oppose, and they will leave you alone. I can't believe that no one has not thought of this.

:crazy:

This brings me back to my original point. We just need leadership on the left to mobilize the millions of dollars and groups like Freedom Works to funnel millions of dollars into astro turf grassroots campaigns!

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:31 PM
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3. Hence why there will be a change in information system 'ownership'
There are plenty of non corporatist leaders, you just don't see them, they are out there, hence why grass roots movements have to learn to see through the PR systems and learn the marketing tricks that try to program people.

As media loses credibility the field gets leveled, that is only the beginning phase of the beginning phase.

Although it could break either way.

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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:35 PM
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4. First problem, we are much more sectarian then "They" are.
We cannot agree on a brand of leftism. Even if we did, we would never accept a huge media company spoonfeeding us rhetoric. The Newscorp model does not work on the left unfortunately.

The folks on the right claim that we have a Koch equivalent in Soros. I dont think that is true. Again, I am not sure we would accept it if he tried to be.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:41 PM
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6. Vegetarian Party?
Where the hell have I been that I hadn't been aware of this?

:rofl:
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 08:03 PM
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8. Laugh If You Want! I Am The Professional Left That Gibbs Fears!
Edited on Sat Sep-04-10 08:03 PM by TomCADem
I am so left of everyone else on this Board that you have to turn around five times counter clockwise, then look over your left shoulder before you can even see me! I burn Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations every weekend, and have Karl Marx's Das Kapital and Mao's Little Red Book tatooed on my stomach so I can read them as I do my sit-ups every morning at my worker's commune. I am the left's answer to Glenn Beck times 1000!

Unlike many so-called liberals and progressives, I know like a few other DUers, that President Obama is actually a Manchurian candidate from Goldman Sachs who was born in a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, whose Dad is Milton Friedman and his Mom is Ayn Rand. The Muslim rumors are actually a carefully designed plot to throw off the fact that like Scrooge McDuck, President Obama secretly swims in the Federal Reserve's 100,000 gallon pool filled with currency every night with Timothy Geithner, where they then sacrifice Che Gueverra in effigy before an alter of three headed god of Adam Smith, Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.

If the left had some true leadership, I would have my own television show like Glenn Beck where I could preach the leftist gospel. But instead of chalk board, I would have a freakin power point to convert the faithful! To show that I was fair and balanced, I would host left, right, and center programs with Kucinich representing the right, Hugo Chavez representing the center, and a medium invoking the spirit of Lenin representing the left.

:evilgrin:

So, where is the leadership on the left so I can get my television show! I am working on the powerpoint slides as we speak to expose the money pool at the Federal Reserve!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 02:27 AM
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11. I stand next to you on the left, but without the tattoos....
...I believe this gets at the issue is where the middle really is. It's my belief that it is far left of where the MSM paint it to be. I know many who consider themselves to be on the right, but when asked questions that have been constructed fairly, actually hold values that place them far left of where the powers-that-be have convinced them they are.

In any case, thanks for your delightful post.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:50 PM
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7. the leadership issue
can be tied to corpoaret ownership of our government.
leaders from both parties have to suck from the same corporate teat.
no true reformer will ever get within seeing distance of the whitehouse or any other elected office where they are in a position to represent the masses.

instead every 4 years we're offered a choice of corporate candidate a or corporate candidate b.
neither candidate will do much more than throw a few scraps to the working class, altho there may be symbolic laws that have catchy titles that imply things are getting better for the working class.

i've never been part of a kucinich for president group, but it's people like kucinich & dean who would really work to make the system perform the way it's supposed to.
the sad reality is that democrats in leadership positions don't want too much change because again they're sucking at the same corporate teat.
it's democrats who torpedo guys like dean, kucinich, and instead tell us we can only win with guys like obama and clinton.

doesn't feel much like a victory tho does it.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-10 12:34 AM
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10. Disagree That Leadership Must Be Corporate. We Just Need Pure 100% Leadership
"the leadership issue can be tied to corpoaret ownership of our government. . .the sad reality is that democrats in leadership positions don't want too much change because again they're sucking at the same corporate teat."

This is why we need leadership from the left!!! Look at the right. They have the Koch brothers throwing millions to defeat President Obama. Why can't the left mobilize such resources?!?!? Make Democrats bend to our will and Republicans scurry in fear with our awesome resources and organization!

By blaming "democrats in leadership positions," you are relying on a top down model assuming that the U.S. Chamber, Koch and Murdoch and Freedom Works are taking their cues from Republican leadership. Its the other way around.

This is why we need real leadership from the left to counter the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Murdoch, Koch and Freedom Works. Until we gets such leaders, I am going to angrily sit out elections, and type on this keyboard in angry apathy.

;)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 08:06 PM
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9. According to the Right we have George Soros n/t
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