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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:38 AM
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Discovery Channel Gunman James Lee, Appears to Have Had Anti-Immigrant Agenda
James Lee
Discovery Channel Gunman Appears to Have Had Anti-Immigrant Agenda
AlterNet
September 2, 2010

The mysterious, self described eco-activist who held at least one person hostage yesterday at the Discovery Channels headquarters had some strange demands. Via Think Progress:

"Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)"


Lees immigration screed bears a troubling resemblance to views and policies espoused by anti-immigrant groups such as NumbersUSA, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), Progressives for Immigration Reform, and others. Just this past month, FAIR released The Environmentalists Guide to a Sensible Immigration Policy. The report connects immigration to pollution, sprawl, congestion, and ecological degradation, complaining that so-called environmentalists pretend as if this connection does not exist. As usual, FAIR prescribes an overall reduction in immigration as the solution to the countrys environmental woes (in slightly more diplomatic terms).

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/09/02/discover... /

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:40 AM
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1. Another isolated teabbagger, populist, anti-immigrant, incident...
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:41 AM by Ozymanithrax
At some point, perhaps someone should try and find out why all these people are going insane. Maybe it's the water. Maybe it's the message.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:43 AM
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2. I don't think he's got a platform
I don't think he's anti-immigration, I think he's anti-human.

Both sides are trying to push Lee into one party or the other. He's neither. He's just a psychopath. And now he's dead.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:43 AM
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3. But wait..the M$M is busy painting him as an "eco-terrorist"...You know..a lefty...
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:44 AM by truebrit71
:eyes:
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Sta au Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:46 AM
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4. I still kinda doubt it
He seems like one of those child free nuts with an enviromental slant.
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:56 AM
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5. Is it possible that his views were, you know, complicated?
And not to be used as a cudgel by either the right or left?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:00 PM
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6. No! Back to your pigeon-hole! Even if we have to cut off your legs and wings to make you fit!! ;-)
(hopefully not needed, but just in case..)

:sarcasm:
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:09 PM
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7. Dude, I'm not even pigeon-toed. :)
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:16 PM
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10. Fu Manchu - Pigeon Toe
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wookie72 Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:23 PM
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12. Now I picture Dean rocking out to that. Blows my mind nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:41 PM
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21. That's too difficult a stance for most people, it seems. (nt)
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:10 PM
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8. Lee was against ALL babies.
The immigration issue was only one of the many insane parts of his screed.

Read the discussion of this point here. Read downthread, not just the OP.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:12 PM
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9. well environmentalists are concerned about population growth
And taken to the extreme I can see how that could turn into hate towards groups of people who are seen as responsible for population growth and migration.

Who says environmentalists or leftists can't possibly be racist jerks?

Secondly I doubt environmentalism necessarily drove to this. He may have been mentally unstable.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:20 PM
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11. "Who says environmentalists or leftists can't possibly be racist jerks?" I say so!

Certainly a racist jerk would not be welcomed in any "leftist" organization I've ever heard of.

What progressive "leftist" organization endorses racism and bigotry?

Racism is something that all real "leftists" and "left" organizations have fought.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:52 PM
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16. I didn't say progressive....I said leftist....
And I wasn't talking about liberal organizations.

Also I should clarify to say that I'm sure their are people who are racist yet be environmentalists.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:26 PM
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13. His agenda pretty fundamental: Touched in the head w/ access to firearms. nt
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:33 PM
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14. What he was, was an over-the-top deep ecologist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology#Criticism

When taken to extremes, some deep ecologists start to talk about the rights of disease-causing organisms to have humans to grow in, and/or the need for the human race to go extinct. The "anchor babies" crap really does fit in nicely if you believe that humans should all die anyway.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:44 PM
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15. Actually, the achor babies crap does NOT fit -
if you are obsessing about the world population closing on 7 billion, the politics of babies and borders is inconsequential. It makes absolutely no difference if a baby is American or Mexican - it is still one baby too many.

Anchor babies is a purely anti-immigrant fixation and has nothing to do with population concerns. Too many people is too many people, no matter where they are or what nationality they claim.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:55 PM
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17. actually it can be linked to population growth concerns
with the idea that people have anchor babies simply to tie them permanently to the US...this dipshit wanted ALL human births to stop...these might have been a special case to be brought out...

sP
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:05 PM
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18. That presupposes these people would not have babies anyway.
The concept of having an anchor baby is only appealing to anti-immigration nuts - does it make ANY sense for a young couple of illegal immigrants who are struggling to make it in a new world without any documentation, who are living on the bare fringe of economic uncertainty, to have one of them stop working and have a kid, not only losing the income of the second worker but adding the expense of childcare, just so 21 years later the kid can apply for citizenship for the parents?

ANCHOR BABIES ARE A MYTH.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:12 PM
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19. right...and this guy thought all that through...
he was unhinged in the most drastic of ways. why would he apply any logic that you have applied. and no, anchor babies are not a myth...not here in our little corner of N GA... but keep on believing it...

sP
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:07 PM
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22. Would YOU have a baby that will cost you tens, if not hundreds, of thousands
of dollars in its first 21 years, just so that baby could sponsor YOU for citizenship, an approval process that will take at least another 5 year? If you are THAT anxious to be a citizen, and THAT patient to see a result, wouldn't it be much simpler, cheaper, and faster to stand in line for documentation in the first place?

ANCHOR BABIES ARE A MYTH.

Illegals have babies. So do most everybody else. They do NOT have babies with the though of gaining citizenship through them. It is a RW moronic meme.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:14 PM
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20. That's a good point
I was looking at it as that he was likely so wrapped up in hate for people, that he grabbed onto anything furthering that opinion.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:08 PM
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23. That is the likelier explanation. Simply trying to expand the justification of his hate. nt
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:15 PM
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24. Also, he liked elephants!
That PROVES he was a Republican!!!!!!!!!!

:woohoo: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :fistbump:
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