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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:23 PM
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Is it me, or did Lawrence O'Donnell just act like a really big poop?
He was busy telling a young woman (sorry, I'm too angry to remember her name, but I know she represented a women's group) that there wouldn't be ANY money left for her in the Social Security treasury when she and her generation reached retirement. She was trying to make the point that we had thirty years to make changes, that there was plenty of money in S.S. now, and that all the hype about "bankruptcy" was just that, hype. He grinned and kept talking over her, I was surprised he didn't call her "Young Lady" and shake his finger at her. I want him to turn in his Democratic registration card.
He was more respectful of the young man who came on next, who was essentially making the same reasonable points as the young woman.
Sexist (!?)
Feel free to talk me down if you think I've overstated it.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:26 PM
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1. He was really insulting - I agree with you. n/t
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:26 PM
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2. I tuned in for those few minutes and immediately turned it off
He was being an asshole
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:26 PM
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3. I thought he was a being a total jerk.
Sorry, can't talk you down. I agree with you.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:27 PM
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4. Sadly, even Lawrence O'Donnell is a DC insider
They seem to have a collective mindset that defaulting on the bonds that represents the Social Security trust fund is a must.

I expected this from Republicans, but not from our side.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:28 PM
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5. The young woman held up well though.
She did a good job trying to talk and make her point whenever O'Donnell kept interrupting her.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:21 PM
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21. I agree,
I thought he asked good questions and she held up great to them. I didn't notice a difference in his talk with the guy after. Seems like he addressed good opposition questions. Not the typical pitch and catch questions KO gives people. I made for actual interesting conversation. Both guests held up well gave out good responses. Felt like good TV to me.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:30 PM
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6. I'll have to catch this
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:36 PM
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7. he was way out of line with his third way talking points. he also laid into Ezra Klein.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:38 PM
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He Frequently acts that way. Sometimes he's great. Sometimes he's as bad or worse then the Repubs.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:40 PM by Pirate Smile
You never know what you're going to get.

He was an idiot during the Health Care debate too. He swore nothing would ever pass. Harry could never get 60 votes. blah, blah, blah.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:38 PM
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8. Dupe
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:38 PM by Pirate Smile
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:41 PM
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9. He was rude, he was wrong
and he was condescending beyond compare. Smug, sexist. A real display of that which defined him in his other lines of work.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:42 PM
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10. I have a hard time tuning in when he guest host.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:43 PM by biscotti
To me, he comes across as a know it all because he worked as an aid in the senate some tome in the 80's.
I just don't care for his attitude on a variety of topics.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:42 PM
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11. I was just going to say that. He put down that woman, defended Simpson.
I just walked away from the TV when he did that.

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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:42 PM
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12. Yep. Lawrence was carrying some heavy water tonight.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:43 PM by DirkGently
Could easily be interpreted as a sign that the deal is already made. Lawrence was throwing down with life expectancy and lightly glossing over the fact that ripping SS has nothing whatever to do with balancing the budget. He was insulting and patronizing to both Ashley Baker and Ezra Klein.

Disgusting. Why are we wasting everyone's time with this issue that has nothing to do with anything except Republicans' utter contempt for people who work for a living?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:43 PM
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13. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way!
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 08:45 PM by bullwinkle428
:thumbsup:

Way to catapult the RW propaganda, LO!

If he thinks he's helping to promote his new show with this kind of douchebaggery, he's dead wrong!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:45 PM
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14. Well he's right
But there's no reason for him to disrespect people who have been duped by misinformation. He probably doesn't understand that the lies are flying from all directions.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 07:00 AM
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27. lol. he's completely wrong & he's the one passing out misinformation.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:51 PM
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15. I Certainly Won't Be Watching His New Show
He cut her off when she tried to tell the great mind he had his facts wrong
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:56 PM
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16. It was so insulting, and the woman did a great job
I was thinking if I were her, I would be furious, and wanted her to know she did wonderfully.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 09:15 PM
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17. It was Ashley Carson, the recipient of Alan Simpson's 310 million t** letter
Discussion of Social Security here


Simpson's letter



Seriously, what got into Lawrence O'Donnell tonight??


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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 01:01 PM
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29. Thanks, Seafan, for the info! I'm sorry I posted without id's.
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 09:35 PM
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18. No. You've not the one.
Actually that woman was making some damn good (and well proven points) about SS. But Lawrence wouldn't let her (or the guy after her) voice 'em without rudely knocking them down with his own (which are discounted by many). In short Lawrence was a grade-A idiot this time. And if the dems don't listen to what either of them have to say then they will get a bad surprise in nov.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 09:40 PM
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19. I take your witnessing at what you saw. But Lawrence has a good history. n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:12 PM
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20. I turned the show off after he interviewed her
He was a first degree douchebag. I don't know WTF he was trying to prove but all he succeeded in doing was to piss off 90% of the Countdown audience.

That young woman did an excellent job of telling Mr stuffed shirt o'donnell he was wrong but he undoubtedly had already got his marching orders and he wasn't hearing any of it.

For whatever reason he's bought into SS being the primary purpose of the cat food commission and he ain't about to let anybody with a different point of view even talk.

Needless to say I think I'll take a pass on his new show and I won't be watching Countdown anymore when he is on.

Asshat.
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FirstTimeVoterAt37 Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:06 PM
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22. I suspect....
He was trying to pull the shtick of spouting off standard BS talking points so the guest can respond. He was just doing a really REALLY crappy job of it. That's why I don't watch Ratigan much either, his delivery can be terrible.

Keith Olbermann can use this technique to spectacular effect. Not many Keiths out there though.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:27 PM
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23. "...there wouldn't be ANY money left for her in the Social Security treasury"
He said there would be money enough to pay out only about 75% of benefits to her generation.

The good thing is that he gave her plenty of time to explain how raising the cap would solve the problem and he then agreed with her on that point.

I'd vote that Lawrence was being half-a-poop. :D
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:29 PM
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24. He was kind of rude to all the guests tonight, I thought.
Maybe he just had a bad day or is trying to play devil's advocate. He wasn't very endearing.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:36 PM
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25. Don't think so, and she agreed with him.
She was well able to make her points, which he accepted.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 06:53 AM
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26. He pissed me off.
I could not believe it. Very disappointing.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 07:29 AM
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28. I'm finding that I'm just not turning the tv on in the evening anymore
and I think I sleep better for it. I come by here early in the morning to make sure I'm not missing anything really terrible and then check in a couple times during the day and then finish my day off by checking this place out once more before I go to bed. I think its called burnout. I'm just tired of worrying with the things I don't seem to be able to get a handle on and spend my time working on my projects here at home. If I get tired and sleepy I take a nape and if I get hot and sweaty I take a quick shower and jump in the pool. Seems there is always something to do while relaxing in there beings as how we have a yard full of big trees and the skimmer only catches so much. I don't know if its the break from the tv or the disconnect from the worries of the color of the skin of my President or what but my life is so much more pleasant now that I've quit watching the teevee and spending less time here worrying with what someone who may be a troll typing some bullshit that just pisses me off.
I'm happy and not worried so much so what more can I ask for.
Peace and have a great day all
I plan to try my best in doing just that.
Oh and I quit smoking that ole devil weed after 40 years and thats seemed to have helped some too.
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