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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:48 PM
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David Mixner: President Obama, At This Stage, Shame On You
First and foremost, the LGBT struggle is one of the great civil rights movement of our times. Given that, quite honestly, there is simply no logical personal or political reason for President Obama to be against marriage equality. At this stage there can only be two conclusions: that he is a political coward or that he does indeed hold prejudice against LGBT citizens. Nothing else fits at this stage. No one can make any more excuses and no one can justify his position any longer. Looking at the facts, the statistics, the political reality and at the President's current position one can only say "Shame on you, Mr. President. Shame on you."

This weekend two factors forced me to focus on his lack of leadership on this issue. One was a brilliant article in the New Republic by Richard Just entitled simply "Disgrace" and the other was a chart published in The New York Times showing the massive change in support across the country for marriage equality. Combine that with a recent CNN poll that showed 52% of Americans believe now that marriage equality is a Constitutional Right and you see how ridiculous his position has become before the public.

The President should look to his fellow Democrats for courage. Overwhelmingly, Democrats now support marriage equality.


http://www.davidmixner.com/2010/08/president-obama-at-t...
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:50 PM
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1. Bravo, David!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:53 PM
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2. K&R
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:53 PM
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3. K&R
keeping above the unrecs
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:55 PM
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4. Off to the greatest. nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:50 PM
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24. merci. nt
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:57 PM
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5. K&R
AMEN!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:00 PM
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6. I agree! and while we're at it shame on President Clinton for giving us DADA & DOMA
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:54 PM
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19. and shame on you for evidently not having read a history book
DADT wasn't Clinton's fault. He lost after taking on both the military and Congress. He actually, God forbid, tried to lead on an issue about gays. To blame him for DADT is the worst kind of cynicism and dishonesty.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:00 PM
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7. I think he is WORSE than a bigot on this issue.
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 03:01 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
I think he is actually personally for marriage equality, but is taking a public stand against it for political expediency -- it is ALL about politics and (perceived) electibility.

Which is a sick, cynical position to take.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:07 PM
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13. You said "Which is a sick, cynical position to take." In other words,
he is not leading but is being led, and that implies that someone -- or something -- other than the President is in charge.

To sick and cynical I would add craven.




TG, NTY
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:01 PM
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8. K&R!
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:01 PM
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9. He should be ashamed, and we need to be the ones to shame him
In 2010, Democrats should not be clinging to apologias for inaction against equality.

The President should be ashamed. The people who defend and rationalize and excuse his behavior should be ashamed right there with him.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:02 PM
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10. K&R
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 03:02 PM by libnnc
Enough of this bullshit. I've fucking HAD IT.

And DNC, DCCC, and yes DU, DON'T ASK ME FOR ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING DIME.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:03 PM
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11. K&R
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 03:07 PM
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12. K&R The Political Class pushed their favorite wedge issue too far
Serves 'em right.

Gosh, Americans are more interested in human rights than the overpriced political advisors thought. LOL
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:35 PM
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14. K&R
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:39 PM
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15. This is exactly why the political expediency argument is bullshit.
There is no legitimate reason, other than pure bigotry, for him to oppose gay marriage.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:45 PM
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16. k&r n/t
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:47 PM
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17. David Mixner never really loved him!
:cry:
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:07 PM
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31. LOL @ "David Mixner never really loved him!"
LOL. Mixner is a well known liberal, isn't he?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:26 PM
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34. That's one of the standard replies to all criticism of the administration, you know,
to wail that the critic in question never really, truly loved the president with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his mind anyway.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 09:44 AM
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39. He must be one of the "professional left" who need to be drug tested for disagreeing with Obama.(nt)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 11:53 AM
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41. +
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:52 PM
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18. Another lost opportunity
Others have succinctly stated the most galling aspects of Obama's anti-gay position, but I'll add one more: the missed opportunity to be out in front on this historic civil rights issue.

Does Obama really care how he's viewed by history? Is it enough for him to be the FIrst Black President(tm)? Or will he ultimately be remembered as the president with the most wasted potential?
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:54 PM
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20. Can't argue any of that. K to the R!!
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:59 PM
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23. +1
Neither can I.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:55 PM
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21. recommended
:kick:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 04:58 PM
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22. Also there is no rational basis
PER Judge Walker on Prop 8. It will be embarrassing if the right are the ones to see reason on this before the leaders of the Democratic Party. WTF!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 06:54 PM
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25. But I've been reading it's ONLY gay people on DU that are upset
some of our sraight compadres keep telling us how quiet, acquiescent and agreeable all their gay "friends" are.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:07 PM
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26. Indeed.
Some of their best friends are "gay"!
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:32 PM
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28. And don't forget the multitudes of gay uncles who come pouring out of the woodwork
Edited on Wed Aug-25-10 09:34 PM by QC
on days like today, gay uncles who are grateful, who do not whine and stamp their feet.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:51 PM
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29. "Gay for a Day" nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:05 PM
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30. Why can't you be more like them? n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:23 PM
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33. We will NOT ruin this for everybody else. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:59 PM
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38. You and your little pet issues! n/t
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:08 PM
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32. Oh, yes. The self-proclaimed 'activists' . eom
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:31 PM
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27. And it's only a tiny minority even of gays on DU, the poniless, bitter, concerned ones.
Not the majority, who are grateful and non-foot-stompy.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:31 PM
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35. the fringe malcontents
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:52 PM
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36. Hmm... is there an "acquiescent and agreeable" unit-system to quantify positions with?
I mean, it would be awful to think that I'd mis-labeled my qualified estimation of the "acquiescence and agreeability" of my "gay friends"... that would be like making a judgement for myself about whether or not separate-but-'equal' is good enough.

I'm hoping for something simple, so I don't have to strain myself... maybe a 1-10 rating system- or maybe a 1-4 if you have one.

Ohh, and maybe some of those other posters might've left behind a pamphlet or something, indicating the numerical "acquiescence and agreeability" rating-average that one has to have amongst "gay friends" in order to justify condescending political expediency arguments? I mean, there has to be a rigorous system of justification behind the behavior, right otherwise there would be repercussions...

:+
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:58 PM
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37. knr
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 09:45 AM
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40. K and R
:thumbsup:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 11:57 AM
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42. and that's the way it is
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