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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:42 PM
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Poll question: Is opposition to interracial marriage racist?
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:43 PM by Prism
It's fairly straightforward.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:43 PM
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1. Yes. nt
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:45 PM
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2. It also marks a person as stupid. Just like those who oppose
the rights of gay americans to marry. I mean at the end of the day it is such a stupid thing to attack.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:47 PM
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3. Awright, who the fuck said no?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:48 PM
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4. Lemme add this is personal
My children are beautiful interracial children

Anyone who could hate my kids should be poked at with sticks :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 PM
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5. +1 to both of your posts. my beautiful child is mixed race too. nt
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 PM by blondeatlast
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 PM
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7. W00t! Hapa Nation!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:11 PM
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25. Hell I'm mixed race myself
Wouldn't have it any other way.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:36 PM
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32. My kids all have fur, but voting "no" makes you nothing but a racist
What else could you be???
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 PM
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6. agreed,
mine are too.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:50 PM
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9. I did... it was an accident! Honest!
I'd never admit it if it hadn't been an accident!

Sorry... really truly sorry!

I hate racism, bigotry, and classism more than I hate W! Honest!

Please forgive me for screwing up the poll... doggonit I must need glasses or something! Argh!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:52 PM
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12. Repent! Your penance consists of 3.5 minutes of the Jonas Bros. doing "Last Train
to Clarksville"--LIVE!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:09 PM
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20. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I'll remain a heathen! LOL!

I was a huge Monkees fan... but even if I weren't, that would be a torturous song! LOL!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:08 PM
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19. who are the other five, then?
trolls, I reckon.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:10 PM
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22. I reckon too...
Otherwise they would have come clean!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:27 PM
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28. Just do 4 Hello Dollys and you'll be fine
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:49 PM
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8. yes-- and I struggled to find a reason to vote no but couldn't....
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 07:51 PM by mike_c
My first thought was that opposition to interracial marriage is only racist when the opposition is for overtly racist reasons, i.e. reasons predicated on beliefs about the inferiority of one race or another. But the more I think about it, the more I conclude that ANY arguments based solely on racial differences MUST included some measure of racial contempt, or at least I couldn't find any reasonable ones that don't, so I'm left with acknowledging that any plausible arguments are likely racist arguments.

And by extension, opposition to homosexual marriage must be founded upon homophobia. Again, every argument I can think of to justify it ultimately rests upon assumptions about relative human value that have NOTHING to do with marriage.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:50 PM
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10. THREE no votes? And no commentary? Really? nt
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:56 PM
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16. Up to 6 cowards. nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:51 PM
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11. Of course and I take it as a desire to deny even my existence, straight up.
Far as I'm concerned you can bypass the Klan and go straight to being a Nazi.

Yup, even if you are a minority that opposes it...a fucking brown shirted, jackboot wearing SS be you black, Native, Asian, white, or green for all I care.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:53 PM
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13. My 30+ yr Marriage is Interracial - no offspring tho' unfortunately. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:55 PM
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14. What does ...
race have to do with it,this is about sex
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:16 PM
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26. The poll question pretty clearly states this is about race.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:41 PM
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33. What's about sex, interracial marriage? WTF
If you are talking about marriage equality, then we are discussing sexual orientation, not sex, but you knew that already.

:eyes:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:55 PM
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15. What year is this again? nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:59 PM
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17. If your motivation is political expediancy rather than actual prejudice
the effect is the same.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:08 PM
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18. By its own definition it is- how can it be otherwise? Individuals can...
by attracted to, or not be attracted to, others for many reasons, some of them possibly racist, others not. But to attempt to deny others the right to marry their choices, or to claim there is something inherently wrong with those choices, has to be racist when the choice is race.

What else could it be?

Having said that, I don't extend the same rationale to being against gay marriage, although it is, as the law now reads, a terrible discrimination to not allow it. Personally, I'm not a big fan of marriage for anyone because its only historical purpose was to legitimize paternity--something that's now a rather quaint concept. Quaint as it may be, though, it's absurd when dealing with two people of the same sex adopting. Or, a single woman, regardless of sexual preference, getting artificially inseminated.

Since marriage has become a complex minefield of legal rights and responsibilities, probably more significant in the long run than any starry-eyed honeymoon, I think a separate state FULLY legally equivalent to marriage is needed. And not just for gay couples-- what about someone unmarried and unrelationshipped who needs someone to handle his or her affairs and be able to sign the avalanche of papers that sometimes have to be signed?

The French have adopted exactly that. I can't remember the name-- something like refrerement. A person you have designated to have all the rights and whatever that a spouse would have, but with no sexual connotation.





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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:09 PM
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21. Sure it is
after all we're all human
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:10 PM
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23. by definition
it certainly is.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:10 PM
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24. Yes. That is easy.
So is the allegory you bring up in this poll.:yourock:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:26 PM
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27. how could it possibly not be?
You would be basing your opposition to a marriage based on someone's race. Clearly basing an opinion on someone's race is racist.


Am I not understanding the question?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:29 PM
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29. Is it crazy today today?
Who voted no??
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potassiumnitrate Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:31 PM
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30. There's no such thing as a "race"
The entire concept of races is a human construction without any valid scientific backing. 99% of all human DNA is identical. There is only one race: The Human race.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:42 PM
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34. ...
:eyes:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:59 PM
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36. Quelle suprise, nes't pas?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:36 PM
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31. Anyone who opposes who someone else marries is poking
Edited on Mon Aug-23-10 09:00 PM by mmonk
their nose in someone elses business and in this case, one would assume so.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:57 PM
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35. Was Hamlet racist?
Opposition to all future marriages includes opposition to future interracial marriages.

God hath given you one face, and you make yourselves another: you jig, you amble, and you lisp, and nickname God’s creatures, and make your wantonness your ignorance. Go to, I’ll no more on’t; it hath made me mad. I say, we will have no more marriages; those that are married already, all but one, shall live; the rest shall keep as they are. To a nunnery, go.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:28 PM
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37. Hamlet was one messed up guy
I mean, even despite the racism....
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