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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:29 AM
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We're not going to reach our goal this fund drive. Let's talk.
So, it's now Friday, and as I post this we haven't even reached 600 donations yet. Unless we experience some kind of miraculous and unprecedented turn-around, we aren't going to reach our goal of 1000 donations by Sunday night. But before you stop reading, the point of this post is not to beg you to dig deep and donate and put us over the top. On the contrary, the point of this post is to tell you this:

Message received.

You don't like what DU has become. Maybe you have very specific complaints, or maybe you don't really know exactly what it is that you don't like. But what you do know is that you wish it was more like the old DU. A community. A place that was special. Where we had big disagreements, but at least you felt like we all had something in common.

Yeah, I miss that DU, too.

I miss it so much that it makes my heart ache. I lie awake at night agonizing over it. I can barely bring myself to read my email anymore. I'm burned out and tired.

We (the DU Admins) knew that having a Democratic Administration would make things a lot more complicated and difficult here on DU, but I don't think we really had any clue how difficult it would be. I know that many of you believe the solution is simple. I know this because you send me scolding shame-on-you emails demanding that I do {whatever} and then DU would be better. I wish I shared your certainty.

We have been very cautious and deliberate in our attempts to improve the way we run DU, and I think -- especially on the moderator-side -- we have made a lot of very important progress. But the whole effort has the feeling of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Our approach has been to "do what we've always been doing, only better," but I am starting to think that much more radical change is necessary.

Here's the problem in a nutshell: Back when Bush was President, he represented the center of gravity in politics -- the focal point that determined "Which side are you on?" -- and everyone on DU actually was on the same side. Now that Barack Obama is President, he has become the center of gravity. I think it's clear that we still broadly agree on the issues, but we disagree on how best to get there, how long it should take, and how much compromise we are willing to accept. Those are the disagreements that matter now. To be blunt, we are not all on the same side anymore.

Imagine if during the Bush Administration, Democratic Underground had welcomed people who thought the president was doing a bad job, *and* people who thought the president was doing a good job. DU would have sucked. Sure, it might have been worth the effort to stop by every once in a while to argue with conservative idiots, but nobody would have felt like DU was their home, their safe-haven, their community.

This is the situation we face. Nobody is "safe" anymore. DU doesn't "belong" to anyone. We all want this to feel like a community, but we have two fairly large groups of people who each seem to believe that they are the rightful heirs to this community, and that the other side doesn't even have a legitimate claim to be here.

And here I am, grasping to the naive and outdated hope -- against all the available evidence -- that maybe we can all figure out a way to share DU.

I could "solve" our problems pretty easily by picking a side. If I did that, at least the people who would remain here would know that they own DU. They would know that they have a home and a safe haven again. And they would take comfort from knowing (finally) that the DU Admins are on their side, rather than cold, distant, unpredictable creatures whose allegiances are not entirely clear and who could turn on them at any moment.

But I am not prepared to give DU to either side. I see all the people who are still here (thank you for still being here, by the way, despite everything) -- some posting and some, sadly, only lurking -- and I see the people who built this community. Great people. Generous, big-hearted, smart, interesting people. Some of you might post strange and unpleasant things now -- including some things that cut very deeply -- but I remember what you were like before, and I remember how much I liked you then.

So we keep doing what we're doing. But I harbor this simmering doubt. I feel obligated to censor people, even though I have never liked doing it, and like it even less now than I ever have. I feel obligated to serve as an authority figure to a community of people (including myself) who are naturally skeptical of authority. I feel obligated to keep deleting posts and banning people, even though I know that each time I do it serves as "proof" that I have already picked a side, that I am already hopelessly biased, and that I cannot be trusted. I long to let you all take responsibility for yourselves, to give the community the ability to police itself and set its own limits, but in the past our efforts to do so have been rejected almost every time.

I think it might not be a bad thing that we're not going to reach our goal this fund drive. Perhaps it will provide us with justification to experiment with some really radical changes to this place. The Admins have discussed a lot of ideas, but we honestly don't know what's going to work, or what you all will be willing to accept. I think, to start, we're probably going to post some kind of member survey next week to better understand your attitudes, and get feedback on a bunch of different ideas. I'll be curious to learn if you are willing to try any of them.

Thanks for listening. And thank you for being part of this community.
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  - thanks for talking to us skinner.  xchrom   Aug-20-10 08:32 AM   #1 
  - that is a point that I see many people here and in other forums MISS  Donnachaidh   Aug-20-10 08:48 AM   #23 
  - Couldn't agree more...  Frisbee   Aug-20-10 10:30 AM   #259 
  - Same Here  NikolaC   Aug-20-10 07:29 PM   #1261 
  - Further, some of us are literally dying, and it doesn't matter to others.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 11:58 AM   #542 
  - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-20-10 09:00 PM   #1329 
  - What Donnachaidh said. I gave $5 at the beginning of the year when I had a little bit to spare.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Aug-20-10 12:15 PM   #582 
  - New Unemployment Claims SURGE, Hit Highest Level Since November 2009  SCRUBDASHRUB   Aug-20-10 12:32 PM   #619 
  - Exactly.  zanana1   Aug-20-10 08:56 PM   #1328 
  - My family is in the same boat.  ChazII   Aug-20-10 09:28 PM   #1344 
  - I am not happy that our Prez is Bush lite. He isn't Prosecuting  babsbunny   Aug-20-10 04:48 PM   #1064 
  - I really hate the unrecommend too.  maryf   Aug-20-10 10:57 PM   #1379 
  - I hate the unrec, too. I vowed not to donate until it was gone, but caved  Stardust   Aug-20-10 11:09 PM   #1385 
     - IMO, it's hurting the line up of articles here ....don't know what others think????  defendandprotect   Aug-21-10 11:35 PM   #1704 
  - I know exactly what you mean. I think exactly the same! I just do not like  RKP5637   Aug-21-10 03:41 PM   #1623 
  - ^ Donna's Right: It's the Economy , Not the Politics Here ^  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 06:54 PM   #1224 
  - whenever I feel discouraged  SCantiGOP   Aug-20-10 09:53 AM   #170 
  - That was a GREAT video, SCantiGOP! Thanks for posting!  calimary   Aug-20-10 03:07 PM   #919 
  - +1  femrap   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #415 
  - Truth is, I think a lot of us are using Facebook now.  tblue   Aug-20-10 12:46 PM   # 
     - hey, good luck with THAT  Capn Sunshine   Aug-20-10 02:26 PM   #848 
     - I hadn't thought of that...  femrap   Aug-20-10 03:45 PM   #979 
        - You can block everything and everyone except who you want  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:23 PM   #1255 
           - Maybe I'll look into it....  femrap   Aug-20-10 09:31 PM   #1347 
  - another here  Kali   Aug-20-10 01:12 PM   #708 
  - What xchrom says....  Plucketeer   Aug-20-10 01:56 PM   #782 
  - Great post  klook   Aug-21-10 06:38 AM   #1493 
  - I am waiting for October when I can re-up. I have never been so  roguevalley   Aug-20-10 11:56 PM   #1404 
  - Thats the reason why I haven't donated  Broken_Hero   Aug-23-10 01:01 PM   #1748 
  - Skinner, I completely agree.  tallahasseedem   Aug-20-10 08:34 AM   #2 
  - I will be  H2O Man   Aug-20-10 08:34 AM   #3 
  - Plus we've got H2O Man....  hlthe2b   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #413 
  - You contribute so much, regardless  mzmolly   Aug-20-10 12:32 PM   #617 
  - well said H2O man I still think DU is the best.  bdamomma   Aug-20-10 10:24 PM   #1370 
  - Thanks, Skinner. I just donated...not much, but I did. DU is special to me. n/t  CurtEastPoint   Aug-20-10 08:35 AM   #4 
  - Sympathies, Boss  Maeve   Aug-20-10 08:36 AM   #5 
  - The people in Will Rogers time didn't talk to each other with such hatefulness.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 12:13 PM   #576 
     - as I mentioned downthread...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-20-10 06:18 PM   #1191 
     - Even if you're a mediocre writer with a big ego.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 10:47 PM   #1375 
     - On DU nowadays...  Jamastiene   Aug-21-10 01:33 AM   #1439 
        - we should have seen this coming...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-22-10 01:04 AM   #1706 
        - I agree with this statement in your post...  truth2power   Aug-22-10 10:16 AM   #1721 
  - You're a great writer, Skinner, and I recognize the spot  babylonsister   Aug-20-10 08:36 AM   #6 
  - Thank you for sharing your thoughts...  OneGrassRoot   Aug-20-10 08:37 AM   #7 
  - ok, ok  kpete   Aug-20-10 08:38 AM   #8 
  - Of course, with rising unemployment it might not be the community  HereSince1628   Aug-20-10 08:40 AM   #9 
  - I'm Sure The Economy Is Having An Effect... But, Dig Deeper... It's NOT  ChiciB1   Aug-20-10 08:42 AM   #11 
  - The economy isn't any worse than it was during 2009. nt  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 08:43 AM   #13 
  - Well, I Was Trying To Be Diplomatic... But I'm More Inclined To Agree With  ChiciB1   Aug-20-10 08:53 AM   #36 
  - I never even used the "ignore" feature until the primary season of '08  SoCalDem   Aug-20-10 09:02 AM   #59 
  - Is for some of us.  hobbit709   Aug-20-10 08:56 AM   #44 
  - I just found out last night that a friend of ours who's a single father of 3 teens lost his job.  SoCalDem   Aug-20-10 09:04 AM   #62 
  - It continues to get worse with no hope in sight.  Xenotime   Aug-20-10 03:00 PM   #909 
  - definitely has gotten worse for me  bigtree   Aug-20-10 11:58 AM   #541 
     - What you are describing is me circa 2002-2005 after my 2001 layoff  stevenleser   Aug-20-10 05:29 PM   #1126 
  - It's CONTINUED bad.  Hissyspit   Aug-20-10 09:09 AM   #73 
  - Continued BAD leads to hopelessness  lark   Aug-20-10 12:16 PM   #584 
  - That's true, but lots of people are in much worse shape now  Mariana   Aug-20-10 09:36 AM   #135 
  - I commend you for being there for your friend, and opening your home to her.  classof56   Aug-20-10 11:27 AM   #426 
  - I commend you too, the disappearing middle class is  bdamomma   Aug-20-10 10:31 PM   #1373 
  - the one big difference betweem 2009 and 2010  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 09:53 AM   #171 
  - oh really?  another saigon   Aug-20-10 11:25 AM   # 
  - For some of us it is. Guessing it isn't for you?  SammyWinstonJack   Aug-20-10 11:47 AM   #501 
  - Neither can I. I've spent most of the past two years unemployed  Lorien   Aug-20-10 05:25 PM   # 
     - Lorien, I donated because of *wonderful* caring members like you.  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:16 PM   #1247 
        - Thanks Mimosa!  Lorien   Aug-20-10 07:31 PM   #1266 
  - Except that people have been struggling for another year.  muddrunner17   Aug-20-10 12:20 PM   #590 
  - The economy for the corporations and rich is better, but for  JDPriestly   Aug-20-10 12:21 PM   #594 
  - The longer the bad economy goes on, the more people  Confusious   Aug-20-10 12:28 PM   #608 
  - The longer the bad economy goes on, the more people  Confusious   Aug-20-10 12:28 PM   #609 
  - I've been dead broke ever since I got here.  sofa king   Aug-20-10 12:55 PM   # 
  - More people jobless, wages down, and worry about joblessness up.  Orsino   Aug-20-10 01:13 PM   #710 
  - You got yours  Jax   Aug-20-10 02:58 PM   #902 
  - I was wondering  Lorien   Aug-20-10 05:27 PM   #1122 
  - Maybe not for you!  xxqqqzme   Aug-20-10 03:17 PM   #934 
  - It is in some places. Unemployment is up in NV as are foreclosures. Can't speak for other places...  laughingliberal   Aug-20-10 09:05 PM   #1331 
  - I agree that the economy/jobs market.........  CrownPrinceBandar   Aug-20-10 09:00 AM   #53 
  - More than anxiety for some of us --  eppur_se_muova   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #178 
  - Nope, for me it's the community. There's a faction on this site that has  Subdivisions   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #569 
  - I'd say there are really four groups.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 08:40 AM   #10 
  - You left out  babylonsister   Aug-20-10 08:45 AM   #16 
  - babylonsister  Monique1   Aug-20-10 09:46 AM   #155 
  - I agree. The nastiness and negativity benefits the rethugs, divide and conquer nt  flamingdem   Aug-20-10 10:00 AM   #191 
  - word, sister n/t  librechik   Aug-20-10 10:05 AM   #199 
  - Absolutely  City of Mills   Aug-20-10 10:09 AM   #205 
  - I agree with you  steve2470   Aug-20-10 11:49 AM   #509 
  - That is *EXACTLY* the kind of statement that pisses me off.  The Green Manalishi   Aug-20-10 06:10 PM   #1182 
  - Inviting others to leave DU because you're unhappy with their cricitisms.....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 06:55 PM   #1225 
  - sorry for the hasty post  steve2470   Aug-21-10 12:37 AM   #1419 
  - I've actually seen one just yesterday on a separate message board bragging about posting here...  cascadiance   Aug-20-10 12:18 PM   #588 
  - There are disruptors that do not want DU  POAS   Aug-20-10 12:53 PM   #663 
  - Presumably, you're saying liberal posters here want DU to fail?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 06:48 PM   #1219 
  - Absolutely...  SidDithers   Aug-21-10 09:03 AM   #1537 
  - Liberal posters want neither Obama nor DU to fail  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:25 PM   #1257 
     - Exactly right. It's frustrating to bring up something that the administration has done  bluethruandthru   Aug-20-10 09:18 PM   #1338 
        - Are you being attacked, or  creeksneakers2   Aug-21-10 07:10 AM   #1504 
        - I agree.  Joey Kidd   Aug-21-10 09:35 AM   #1549 
           - We might ask them?  defendandprotect   Aug-21-10 11:26 PM   #1700 
  - The difficult part is being able to determine the trolls that have managed to stay.  LiberalFighter   Aug-20-10 02:03 PM   #797 
  - You don't have to use the buddy list for buddies.  tanyev   Aug-20-10 03:58 PM   #1000 
     - I will check that possibility out. Will then have to remember they aren't buddies.  LiberalFighter   Aug-20-10 04:14 PM   #1027 
  - I agree with babylonsister. I think there's been an infliltration.  Diane R   Aug-20-10 02:14 PM   #817 
  - Exactly..  butterfly77   Aug-20-10 03:35 PM   #960 
  - I guarantee you that some of those most vocal in their critiques will implode and reveal.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Aug-20-10 07:13 PM   #1243 
  - The reasons I have not give this time  FreeState   Aug-20-10 03:46 PM   #980 
  - Yep...  JuniperLea   Aug-20-10 04:06 PM   #1015 
  - Let me guess which "side" you think they're on. I agree with you, I just think they're on  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 04:34 PM   #1050 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:27 PM   #1259 
  - no doubt there are rethug trolls.. not many but enough to cause trouble..  DCBob   Aug-20-10 05:16 PM   #1106 
  - yup! the serial unrec'ers, for starters  shireen   Aug-20-10 11:00 PM   #1380 
  - When I read yr post I wished we had the ability to unrec posts...  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 08:04 AM   #1520 
  - Correct, I can pick them out pretty well  CLANG   Aug-21-10 04:33 PM   #1640 
  - To be clear, I do not believe that everyone on DU falls neatly into two groups.  Skinner   Aug-20-10 08:45 AM   #17 
  - This place was even worse during the 2008 primaries, IIRC.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 08:53 AM   #35 
  - I think there are two differences:  Skinner   Aug-20-10 08:56 AM   #43 
  - Well, we very well may have Speaker Boehner to unite us in 2011.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:21 AM   #102 
  - and some may need "speaker Boehner" to learn how to interact more effectively.  nightrain   Aug-20-10 11:28 AM   #432 
  - I agree with you.  unapatriciated   Aug-20-10 04:14 PM   #1026 
  - You're not unique at all.  OhioBlue   Aug-20-10 02:52 PM   #885 
  - I truly wish this could be more about ISSUES than people. We used to stand for a set of core values  chimpymustgo   Aug-20-10 10:29 AM   #257 
  - I so agree  MissDeeds   Aug-20-10 02:16 PM   #825 
  - People who abandon their core values never had them to begin with  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 03:58 PM   #999 
  - I can get behind that.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 04:35 PM   #1052 
  - Fear (disbelief) at Sarah Palin still unites us...  hlthe2b   Aug-20-10 11:28 AM   #431 
  - At least we still have FOX  JJ   Aug-20-10 05:44 PM   #1153 
  - the difficulty with the ''big tent'' approach: is the Democratic Party just a label  yurbud   Aug-21-10 04:30 PM   #1638 
  - the difficulty with the ''big tent'' approach: is the Democratic Party just a label  yurbud   Aug-21-10 04:31 PM   #1639 
  - Or maybe some on the losing side hang around stinking up DU. Bitter, negative losers.  Stardust   Aug-20-10 11:21 PM   #1390 
  - Skinner, what is that divide?  Skidmore   Aug-20-10 11:42 AM   #478 
  - +100. n/t  pnwmom   Aug-20-10 03:12 PM   #928 
  - Some of it could just be burn out.  SlipperySlope   Aug-20-10 11:36 PM   #1393 
  - I'm basically a 3 on your list but you should add a financially category  Ichingcarpenter   Aug-20-10 08:50 AM   #30 
  - One more group to add  JustAnotherGen   Aug-20-10 09:14 AM   #86 
  - Ditto  susanwy   Aug-20-10 04:01 PM   #1004 
  - Here here!!  Lost-in-FL   Aug-22-10 07:09 PM   #1735 
  - I don't find that a satisfactory taxonomy  hfojvt   Aug-20-10 10:24 AM   #249 
  - I see your point, but if their tactics are to trash the guy  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:45 AM   #300 
     - Criticizing anything that happens in the US is taken as trashing Obama  Generic Other   Aug-21-10 11:08 AM   #1571 
  - You left out a group.  Iggo   Aug-20-10 10:42 AM   #290 
  - There are two kinds of spurs in this world, my friend. nt  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:46 AM   #303 
  - LOL, exactly.  Iggo   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   # 
  - And the push to label people into camps is part of the problem.  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 12:56 PM   #668 
  - I appreciate DU exactly as it is currently configured and  proverbialwisdom   Aug-20-10 11:13 AM   #381 
  - A lot of times people feel "attacked" when they read or hear  JDPriestly   Aug-20-10 12:33 PM   #623 
  - What a special little place you have in there!  YOY   Aug-20-10 04:22 PM   #1034 
  - It's the incessant, non-stop nastiness of group 2 that is killing this place.  ChimpersMcSmirkers   Aug-20-10 06:13 PM   #1186 
  - It's a DISCUSSION board  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 02:11 AM   #1451 
  - I think your analysis is spot on. I'm a something of a 3 and a whole bunch of 4.  laughingliberal   Aug-20-10 11:01 PM   #1381 
     - I am so sorry that you have had these battles, your husband  sabrina 1   Aug-21-10 03:07 AM   #1467 
     - Thank you, sabrina1  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 09:45 AM   #1551 
        - I am so glad that you were able to keep your coverage  sabrina 1   Aug-21-10 01:45 PM   #1606 
     - This post is worth a read. nt  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 07:01 AM   #1500 
     - Thank you so much for posting this.  myrna minx   Aug-21-10 08:29 AM   #1527 
     - I appreciate your voice and am glad you raise it to remind us  Generic Other   Aug-21-10 12:48 PM   #1588 
     - Excellent post. Explains the problem perfectly.  Spheric   Aug-22-10 08:55 AM   #1714 
     - +1000....I'm so glad read your whole post!  PassingFair   Aug-22-10 04:34 PM   #1729 
  - I gave a little and hope to continue to give more...  Hepburn   Aug-20-10 08:43 AM   #12 
  - Thanks Skinner  catgirl   Aug-20-10 08:43 AM   #14 
  - I'm unemployed otherwise I would donate  quinnox   Aug-20-10 08:44 AM   #15 
  - We are kicking around the idea of providing top-level "safe haven" forums for committed partisans.  Skinner   Aug-20-10 08:49 AM   #26 
  - Whatever you guys come up with I'm sure will be good  quinnox   Aug-20-10 08:55 AM   #40 
  - This came to mind as one solution  Tsiyu   Aug-20-10 08:57 AM   #47 
  - Being FORCED Into A "Side" Would Make ME Less Likely To Post  ChiciB1   Aug-20-10 08:57 AM   #48 
  - Bingo  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:02 AM   #60 
  - I should have put the word "forcing" in scare quotes.  Skinner   Aug-20-10 09:09 AM   #74 
     - I still think it's an extremely bad idea  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:12 AM   #79 
     - I agree, it would limit the debate.  Javaman   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #298 
     - i don't understand the point in this -- can you explain what you mean by "lead  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 09:38 AM   #139 
     - If you have those forums  flying rabbit   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   #819 
  - That is about the worst idea I have ever heard sugegsted on here  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:02 AM   #58 
  - Nuclear block was a stroke of genius. I want it back to keep disruptors off my threads!  JVS   Aug-20-10 09:19 AM   #95 
     - It only lasted like three days  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:24 AM   #110 
        - I used it to put Jpgray on block and then start an appreciation thread for him.  JVS   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   #129 
  - Serious/no snark  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 09:13 AM   #81 
  - Twice the work, twice the fun?  tavalon   Aug-20-10 10:31 AM   #263 
  - so we can't be pro-'left wing' and pro-Obama?  bigtree   Aug-20-10 12:02 PM   #552 
     - You're the perfect example of my point. Did you miss the closing of what I said?  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 12:09 PM   #564 
     - why do you insist on interpreting my view of what you said an attack?  bigtree   Aug-20-10 12:16 PM   #583 
     - Well, you'd have to redefine "left wing" to do both. Considering the administration  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:28 PM   #1123 
        - depends on the issue  bigtree   Aug-20-10 07:20 PM   #1251 
           - +1  smiley_glad_hands   Aug-20-10 10:27 PM   #1371 
  - So, you're in favor of elevating the BOG to the premier DU forum?  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   #127 
  - I can't see where he said that at all...  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 09:51 AM   #167 
     - so, there would be TWO premier, top-level forums: BOG and ?? something else?  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 10:00 AM   #189 
     - so, there would be TWO premier, top-level forums: BOG and ?? something else?  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 10:00 AM   #190 
        - I don't know, really.  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   # 
  - It's a bad idea  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 10:19 AM   #234 
  - Noooooo.  Patsy Stone   Aug-20-10 10:54 AM   #325 
  - Have you given any thought to the fact that Obama will not  Little Star   Aug-20-10 11:05 AM   #355 
  - terrible idea. The BOG already exists.  nightrain   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #435 
  - I find it interesting that the same schisms occurs on FR  The Green Manalishi   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #495 
  - Your "idiocy of not calling people by their titles" theme might be stronger  FSogol   Aug-20-10 06:49 PM   # 
     - DOH!  The Green Manalishi   Aug-20-10 08:00 PM   #1294 
  - Instead of thinking of it as enemy camps, you could think of it as two ways to  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #522 
  - Yes. Advocating for social justice....  truth2power   Aug-20-10 01:00 PM   #678 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:06 PM   #1093 
  - Many of us are confused in our feelings.  JDPriestly   Aug-20-10 12:45 PM   #649 
  - "Safe haven" ... bury your head in the sand playground?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:07 PM   #697 
  - +1  Mithreal   Aug-20-10 05:25 PM   #1118 
     - Love the way you express your political views--!!  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 07:03 PM   #1234 
  - I think the problem has to be fixed systemically. n/t  truth2power   Aug-20-10 01:17 PM   #718 
  - I'm very supportive of that idea.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #1088 
  - Do you remember how that worked out last time?  JJ   Aug-20-10 05:46 PM   # 
  - You already have that.  Cleita   Aug-20-10 06:38 PM   #1212 
  - What is a "partisan". Most here are "Partisans"?  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 02:23 AM   #1456 
  - "Obama sycophants"... very constructive. nt  CBR   Aug-20-10 08:50 AM   #32 
  - The poster is correct, though  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:05 AM   #66 
  - Let's be fair here:  Skinner   Aug-20-10 09:11 AM   #77 
  - No, i think YOU aren't being fair by admitting this point is legit  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:20 AM   #100 
     - If you really believe that DEMOCRATIC Underground  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:30 AM   #123 
     - no, it's Democratic UNDERGROUND, i.e, for the left wing of the party.  librechik   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #218 
     - While there's a Democrats.com there are also many  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:50 AM   #311 
     - Have you read the MISSION statement here.  TZ   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #529 
        - +1000  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 12:05 PM   #558 
        - I'm not disputing what the mission is, that mission is embraced by leftwingers too  librechik   Aug-20-10 01:34 PM   #747 
     - I think that "Democratic Underground" is more difficult now... Perhaps "Progressive Underground"?  cascadiance   Aug-20-10 12:50 PM   #658 
     - When that "partisan" support extends to trying to block criticism of  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:18 PM   #720 
     - I believe it's been ruined...  Sapphocrat   Aug-20-10 02:18 PM   #828 
     - That's my take on it.  WorseBeforeBetter   Aug-20-10 08:26 PM   #1314 
     - Absolutely.  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 02:57 AM   #1464 
     - Well, your truth is your perception I guess.  OhioBlue   Aug-20-10 11:03 PM   #1383 
     - not exactly  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 12:47 PM   #1587 
     - +1 n/t  Joey Kidd   Aug-21-10 12:00 PM   #1584 
     - Bingo  Lil Missy   Aug-22-10 07:37 PM   #1737 
     - Totally agree--k&r!  rusty fender   Aug-20-10 09:56 AM   #181 
     - I think of DU as just one big, incredibly dysfunctional family.  Jackpine Radical   Aug-20-10 11:00 AM   #338 
        - I see it similarly. I appreciate the ignore feature more than ever before!  nightrain   Aug-20-10 11:34 AM   #455 
        - True, it shouldn't be a surprise since our whole country is basically dysfunctional right now ;)  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 02:59 AM   #1465 
     - It's only legit if you admit it works BOTH ways.  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 12:09 PM   #562 
        - Which shows you didn't read my post at all  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:35 PM   #861 
           - Your first post  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 03:28 PM   #950 
              - Again, you are willfully misconstruing what I wrote and trying some strawmen in  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:32 PM   #1268 
                 - strawmen strawmen  SunsetDreams   Aug-22-10 03:41 AM   #1709 
  - There are groups of individuals on this board  CBR   Aug-20-10 09:11 AM   #78 
     - The psoter was discussing this one group, so I discussed this one group  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:22 AM   #105 
     - Now that you mention it. There is plenty of racism coming in the  CBR   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   #126 
        - I see your not a fan of Shirley Sherrod.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:11 AM   #213 
           - Class is a problem but people on here ignore race  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #411 
              - .  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 12:00 PM   #546 
              - Thanks. It is important to know who think racism is not a problem on here.  CBR   Aug-20-10 12:33 PM   #620 
                 - You are very welcome, because I also like knowing who doesn't give a rip about poverty.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 12:39 PM   #634 
                    - Try again. I was born to a 15 year old mother in rural WV.  CBR   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   #820 
                       - And I very much appreciate your concentration on YOU and demanding that others do the same.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 02:21 PM   #835 
                          - Wow, project much?  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 02:36 PM   #863 
                          - +10000 n/t  Violet_Crumble   Aug-20-10 11:20 PM   #1389 
                          - You may not know it  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 03:08 AM   #1468 
                          - Holy shit, she's HOMELESS?  superduperfarleft   Aug-21-10 08:53 AM   #1534 
                             - It has been a secret known to few  Hekate   Aug-21-10 06:46 PM   #1665 
                          - Great observation...  SidDithers   Aug-21-10 11:13 AM   #1574 
                          - You insulting someone for talking about themselves is  CBR   Aug-20-10 05:33 PM   #1132 
                             - Thank you for your fine personal attack. Do us both a favor and put me on ignore.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 05:51 PM   #1166 
              - you are wrong...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-20-10 08:56 PM   #1326 
     - I see this both ways  JonLP24   Aug-20-10 04:51 PM   #1070 
  - So, Obama supporters are sychophants?  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 10:12 AM   #215 
     - Please stop that.  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 11:58 AM   #543 
     - There is no way to tell...so why bring up the label?  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 01:32 PM   #743 
        - So stop bringing it up.  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 01:50 PM   #771 
        - you're telling me to stop, to shut up?  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 02:07 PM   #803 
           - Interesting. You just did it again.  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 03:30 PM   #953 
              - oh, telling me to stop talking is so very different than shut up?  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #1089 
                 - You are shameless.  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 08:31 PM   #1316 
        - Of course you can tell -- there's no way NOT to tell  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:38 PM   #865 
        - bull  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 05:05 PM   #1092 
           - THERE IS NO WAY NOT TO TELL  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:35 PM   #1271 
        - Actually, they stick out like sore thumbs  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 04:19 PM   #1031 
        - not true  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 05:29 PM   #1125 
           - Totally true  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:38 PM   #1277 
        - "because a person hasn't submitted a negative post"  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 03:15 AM   #1470 
     - Not one poster on here has EVER said that -- EVER  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:37 PM   #864 
     - YOU responded "The poster is correct though"  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 03:34 PM   # 
        - No one has EVER said Obama supporters are sycophants, ever  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:57 PM   # 
           - Again you say it, YOU agreed with post 15 which does in fact say that  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 04:13 PM   # 
              - No one has ever said that, including that poster  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:37 PM   #1275 
                 - ahh but it does say that  SunsetDreams   Aug-21-10 11:02 AM   #1570 
                    - kinda concerning no?  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 11:55 AM   #1582 
     - if they are honest about the nature of deals made, who was served, who was pressured and who  yurbud   Aug-21-10 03:53 PM   #1629 
  - I, for one don't like talking into an echo chamber.  Joe Fields   Aug-20-10 11:18 AM   #401 
  - I am too but .....  True_Blue   Aug-21-10 11:41 AM   #1578 
  - Excellent suggestion  jeanpalmer   Aug-23-10 05:44 AM   #1744 
  - I can't give more until after the drive is over....  nc4bo   Aug-20-10 08:46 AM   #18 
  - Same here.  knitter4democracy   Aug-20-10 09:37 AM   #138 
  - Thanks, Skinner  BeFree   Aug-20-10 08:46 AM   #19 
  - DU should be a political Party.  kentuck   Aug-20-10 08:46 AM   #20 
  - Guess I was lucky to  AsahinaKimi   Aug-20-10 08:47 AM   #21 
  - I think it has at least as much to do with the economy..  Fumesucker   Aug-20-10 08:48 AM   #22 
  - It's because you dont care about us yellow spotted blue dog dems.  MattBaggins   Aug-20-10 08:48 AM   #24 
  - I've been, quite frankly, shocked by some of the vile charges made against you, personally  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-20-10 08:48 AM   #25 
  - I had no idea that this was going on...  tallahasseedem   Aug-20-10 08:50 AM   #31 
     - Oh yeah, there's a hardcore bunch who post here  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 09:42 AM   #147 
  - I honestly was waiting because I couldn't decide what I wanted on my stickies.  Solly Mack   Aug-20-10 08:49 AM   #27 
  - None offer Critical Solutions So Far  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 08:49 AM   #28 
  - I should add though  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:00 AM   #52 
  - good post, too. nt  woo me with science   Aug-20-10 01:05 PM   #693 
  - Good post.  Poboy   Aug-20-10 09:57 AM   #182 
  - I agree with this.  woo me with science   Aug-20-10 01:05 PM   #691 
  - Thom has posted here and that is so COOL! n/t  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:28 PM   #1260 
  - Times are tough  Tsiyu   Aug-20-10 08:49 AM   #29 
  - To be clear, DU can survive a slow fund drive. I'm not concerned about our finances.  Skinner   Aug-20-10 08:55 AM   #39 
     - I really think the economy is a bigger factor than factions are.  annabanana   Aug-20-10 09:01 AM   #56 
     - This community appreciates that  Tsiyu   Aug-20-10 09:07 AM   #71 
     - I was wondering why we didn't have the stickie specials?  Hissyspit   Aug-20-10 09:13 AM   #82 
     - $5 half stickies would be cool w/me. Wouldn't mind sharing :)  nc4bo   Aug-20-10 09:18 AM   #93 
     - I left for the first time early this summer  tavalon   Aug-20-10 10:38 AM   #276 
     - It saz the economy sux. Everybody's broke. Why don't you try an auction for the poor people.  Joanne98   Aug-20-10 10:39 AM   #282 
     - Thank you for being clear on that, Skinner.  enlightenment   Aug-20-10 12:24 PM   #597 
     - I wouldn't weigh the bickering too heavily as a factor in the slow drive.  Caliman73   Aug-20-10 12:27 PM   #606 
     - Can DU continue to survive this economy? That's the question?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:25 PM   #734 
     - It says you've allowed 25 posters to run off half of your "base".  PassingFair   Aug-22-10 04:53 PM   #1730 
  - I think the main problem is the economic crisis including joblessness and pay cuts.  Better Believe It   Aug-20-10 08:50 AM   # 
  - Economic crisis will not be solved by right wing/corporate "remedies" ...!!  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:27 PM   #738 
  - I'm really happy to be here  derby378   Aug-20-10 08:50 AM   #33 
  - Just bc the POTUS is a Dem, doesn't mean he can fix the world overnight.  uncommon   Aug-20-10 08:52 AM   #34 
  - well, now, isn't your post kinda the way of the world and an example of exactly what obama faces  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 08:53 AM   #37 
  - good post, sea.. ;)  Whisp   Aug-20-10 08:57 AM   #46 
  - I think you are right.  Skinner   Aug-20-10 09:06 AM   #69 
  - LOL  tavalon   Aug-20-10 10:43 AM   #292 
  - Herding cats. lol nt  Javaman   Aug-20-10 10:47 AM   #306 
  - I'm sure it does.  Sapphocrat   Aug-20-10 03:53 PM   #994 
  - Very well said.  Mithreal   Aug-20-10 04:09 PM   #1019 
  - +7  Prism   Aug-20-10 04:13 PM   #1024 
  - +7  NMMNG   Aug-20-10 04:28 PM   #1040 
  - Beautiful Post!  jannyk   Aug-20-10 04:39 PM   #1057 
  - the fact that this poster knows that speaking freely is a punishable offense, sums up the problem  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 04:46 PM   #1062 
  - but this is where i have the problem. all the years on du, no, i dont see that the poster has a  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:50 PM   #1068 
  - it's something that's easy not to see b/c someone is gone...they're gone  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 06:11 PM   #1183 
     - i have followed a lot of people gone.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 08:25 PM   #1313 
  - And DU wonders why it's having trouble raising money.  AngryOldDem   Aug-20-10 07:31 PM   #1267 
  - What you just said needs to be in big BOLD letters.  Catherina   Aug-21-10 01:32 AM   #1436 
  - +1 while a select group is allowed to break all the rules , tag team others and be disrespectful in  flyarm   Aug-21-10 10:22 AM   #1561 
     - Here's why I'm not donating.  AngryOldDem   Aug-21-10 03:20 PM   #1617 
  - Excellent point. nt  Lorien   Aug-20-10 07:33 PM   #1269 
  - .  jgraz   Aug-20-10 04:59 PM   #1081 
  - Rarely do I see a post where I completely agree with every word.  jgraz   Aug-20-10 05:00 PM   #1082 
  - About says it for me too. Thank you  havocmom   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #1086 
  - how do you allow the fuck you and shut the fuck up (which i love and remember) yet  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:23 PM   #1115 
     - swearing is swearing. Bullying is not the same  havocmom   Aug-20-10 05:39 PM   #1144 
     - people are talking about how hard it is in discussing.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:44 PM   #1154 
        - Ask me anything you want  havocmom   Aug-20-10 07:37 PM   #1274 
           - really? wow. hm.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 08:27 PM   #1315 
     - lol me too. nt  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 07:11 PM   #1242 
     - I agree it was a great post but that is the one thing I would rather not see  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 03:49 AM   #1472 
  - +7  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 05:09 PM   #1096 
  - +7  Spheric   Aug-20-10 05:30 PM   #1128 
  - ..  unapatriciated   Aug-20-10 05:35 PM   #1139 
  - Thank you, Sapphocrat!!!  Raster   Aug-20-10 05:42 PM   #1152 
  - I totally agree with you  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 05:50 PM   # 
  - I didn't even know about that...  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:35 PM   #1270 
  - +7  tishaLA   Aug-20-10 06:03 PM   #1173 
  - Brilliant. +1 n/t  kiva   Aug-20-10 06:27 PM   #1203 
  - +7  Bluebear   Aug-20-10 06:58 PM   #1230 
  - -7  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 07:15 PM   #1244 
  - +14  girl gone mad   Aug-20-10 09:30 PM   #1346 
     - lol nt  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 07:33 AM   #1511 
  - +7  Duncan Grant   Aug-20-10 07:17 PM   #1248 
  - Agreed. And I do wish that we COULD agree to disagree and that dissent  Lorien   Aug-20-10 07:29 PM   #1262 
  - *blinks*  Hong Kong Cavalier   Aug-20-10 07:53 PM   #1288 
  - I agree with this wholeheartedly.  Political_Junkie   Aug-20-10 08:19 PM   #1305 
  - Great post. Thank you, this had to be said. nt  inna   Aug-20-10 08:36 PM   #1318 
  - + a lot. This sums it up. This is a long thread and  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 08:42 PM   #1321 
  - +7  leftyclimber   Aug-20-10 09:34 PM   #1350 
  - More "gay purge" accusations without explanation of why there would even be  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 09:37 PM   #1352 
  - Sigh.  flvegan   Aug-20-10 10:02 PM   #1362 
  - It's not like you can just say that to make it look like there's a reason or something.  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 10:13 PM   #1366 
     - When something is mentioned  flvegan   Aug-20-10 10:17 PM   #1369 
        - There are a lot of people questioning Obama's birth certificate too.  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 11:09 PM   #1386 
           - Enjoy those blinders, little woodchuck. n/t  flvegan   Aug-20-10 11:13 PM   #1387 
              - The "truthers" like to use that one too. n/t  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 11:19 PM   #1388 
  - Here's a list of the dead:  donco6   Aug-21-10 09:50 AM   #1553 
     - I did not ask for the list of the dead; I've seen it before.  LoZoccolo   Aug-21-10 10:52 AM   #1567 
     - Forgot one...  Jamastiene   Aug-21-10 02:35 PM   #1610 
     - +11's  lost-in-nj   Aug-21-10 08:53 PM   #1680 
     - All well-deserved  alcibiades_mystery   Aug-22-10 06:17 PM   #1734 
  - There was no "purge"  SoxFan   Aug-20-10 10:00 PM   #1359 
  - If acting like a jerk caused people to be automatically  kiva   Aug-21-10 01:56 AM   #1446 
  - Good point.  LWolf   Aug-21-10 05:27 PM   #1648 
     - Lol !  Shining Jack   Aug-21-10 10:11 PM   #1691 
  - It was just being jerks? Then I'm looking forward to seeing them around here again soon. Because  Brickbat   Aug-21-10 11:04 PM   #1696 
  - I'm bewildered by my own current discomfort.  swimboy   Aug-20-10 10:31 PM   #1372 
  - thanks!  shireen   Aug-20-10 11:30 PM   #1392 
  - +1  leftstreet   Aug-20-10 11:49 PM   #1400 
  - Excellent post! nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 12:19 AM   #1411 
  - Who are you and where did you come from? Excellent, honest post.  Catherina   Aug-21-10 01:26 AM   #1434 
  - +7  Jamastiene   Aug-21-10 01:52 AM   #1443 
  - BEST POST ON THE THREAD....+1000000000  woo me with science   Aug-21-10 07:12 AM   #1505 
  - Thank you for posting this.  John Agar   Aug-21-10 07:35 AM   #1512 
  - I loved John Agar  Scurrilous   Aug-21-10 03:32 PM   #1620 
  - Excellent post, Excellent points! That should be listened to if this place is to survive! eom  flyarm   Aug-21-10 10:19 AM   #1560 
  - I want to know what people think  Generic Other   Aug-21-10 01:36 PM   #1600 
  - +7  racaulk   Aug-21-10 03:41 PM   #1622 
  - Thanks.  LWolf   Aug-21-10 05:29 PM   #1649 
  - +7  RainDog   Aug-21-10 06:12 PM   #1659 
  - Silence......  lost-in-nj   Aug-21-10 09:38 PM   #1688 
  - +7  RetroLounge   Aug-22-10 07:27 AM   #1712 
  - I agree with every word! n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Aug-24-10 12:20 AM   #1758 
  - Here's the difference..  MessiahRp   Aug-21-10 02:26 AM   #1458 
  - Well said seabeyond.  Kadie   Aug-20-10 10:37 AM   #274 
  - You've nailed it Seabeyond  EnlightenedOne   Aug-20-10 10:46 AM   #302 
  - Civil discussion is underrated here and out there nt  flamingdem   Aug-20-10 12:59 PM   #674 
  - Yeah, it's also what Bush faced. It's what every president faces.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 10:54 PM   #1377 
  - Your diagnosis suggests a solution...  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 08:55 AM   #38 
  - and what of a third option for people who think Obama is right on some issues and wrong on others--I  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 09:02 AM   #57 
  - If you don't fall into either of the two opposed sides...  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 09:06 AM   #68 
  - Deep six the whole rec-unrec thing.. It's not necessary  SoCalDem   Aug-20-10 09:13 AM   #85 
  - That's not really true  Matariki   Aug-20-10 11:09 AM   #370 
  - So keep the recs but ditch unrecs.  iris27   Aug-20-10 03:09 PM   #922 
  - Yep. Unrec favors the ill-tempered  DirkGently   Aug-20-10 01:18 PM   #721 
  - How would that work, though?  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:16 AM   #91 
  - We want people to point out inaccuracies.  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 09:19 AM   #96 
     - There is no agreement on what is truth around here. nt  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:25 AM   #114 
        - Moderators have to agree with each other to arrive at a consensus.  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 10:10 AM   #210 
  - Add a third forum: the Thunderdome!  backscatter712   Aug-20-10 10:18 AM   #230 
  - As I see the "2 sides" of the new DU...  NightWatcher   Aug-20-10 08:56 AM   #41 
  - I see it- those of us who are liberal and see the Good AND Bad. And those who only see the bad  KittyWampus   Aug-20-10 08:58 AM   #49 
  - it is obvious you are a B'er from your perception and description of the A'er, which is one of the  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:05 AM   # 
  - I hate that it has turned into factions. I used to disagree with some on some points and agree  NightWatcher   Aug-20-10 09:12 AM   #80 
     - you are right. i haev been listening to totally smart people who we use to be in agreement  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:24 AM   #109 
  - I Have to Agree  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:13 AM   #84 
  - I just got tired of being bashed..  girl gone mad   Aug-20-10 10:17 AM   #228 
  - Attacks on criticism of Obama are fine -- we can handle it -- HOWEVER, where it  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:33 PM   #745 
  - +1 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 12:26 AM   #1412 
  - Absolutely! 100% correct!!!  flyarm   Aug-21-10 10:55 AM   #1568 
  - LOL  tavalon   Aug-20-10 10:45 AM   #301 
  - The fallacy is that nobody is always in one of those two camps  jeff47   Aug-20-10 03:07 PM   #918 
  - People who are CONSTANTLY negative are just that- Negative.  KittyWampus   Aug-20-10 08:56 AM   #42 
  - +1000  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 09:04 AM   #63 
  - Negative  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:16 AM   #90 
     - Sorry, it isn't 'disagree'. There are plenty of things that Obama/Democrats do that I don't like  KittyWampus   Aug-20-10 09:20 AM   #99 
     - What Exactly are You Speaking of  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:32 AM   #130 
     - your implication is that you have a monopoly on what the big picture is.  tomp   Aug-20-10 10:39 AM   #280 
     - Apparently you have your narrative and you stick to it as well.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:22 PM   #1114 
     - There are people here who are relentlessly negative  Mariana   Aug-20-10 01:17 PM   #716 
     - There are people on here who are hungry and sleeping in their cars.  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 12:33 AM   #1417 
     - I'm not the OP  jeff47   Aug-20-10 03:19 PM   #940 
  - Good post  malaise   Aug-20-10 09:22 AM   #104 
  - A lot of what manifests as criticsim of Obama is actually a dislike for the other poster  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 09:26 AM   #116 
  - Which also brings up the Unrec feature which is a negative feature.  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 10:22 AM   #239 
  - Agreed. This seems to be emerging as a theme ...  DirkGently   Aug-20-10 01:27 PM   #737 
  - So I checked your journal and find not one entry that is in any way critical of this  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 12:01 PM   #549 
  - So, you're saying he negative nellies need to go? TSed all negativity? n/t  Subdivisions   Aug-20-10 12:11 PM   #575 
  - + many  shireen   Aug-20-10 11:43 PM   #1396 
  - Does the validity of criticism have any correlation with the percentage  The Green Manalishi   Aug-21-10 01:16 AM   #1429 
  - The problem is...  VioletLake   Aug-20-10 08:57 AM   #45 
  - Agreed  JanMichael   Aug-20-10 09:15 AM   #89 
  - Well said...  roxiejules   Aug-20-10 09:56 AM   #180 
  - +10  EmeraldCityGrl   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   # 
  - yep  southmost   Aug-20-10 02:22 PM   #839 
  - Within the discussion about the party, that is absolutely  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 02:36 PM   #862 
  - + 1000000000  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:55 PM   #1169 
  - hugs back :) nt  VioletLake   Aug-20-10 07:31 PM   #1263 
  - +1 good point. nt  shireen   Aug-20-10 11:44 PM   #1397 
  - You hit the nail on the head there. Rec'd. n/t  Catherina   Aug-21-10 02:16 AM   #1454 
  - I do not envy you your position..  SoCalDem   Aug-20-10 08:59 AM   #50 
  - I am one of the lurkers you mention  Blecht   Aug-20-10 09:00 AM   #51 
  - one can also talk about the pearl clutching bashing, christian bashing....  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:06 AM   #70 
     - What is pearl clutching bashing?  Blecht   Aug-20-10 09:10 AM   #76 
        - the point is, the bashing is all over. i agree with you there is all that bashing  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:21 AM   #103 
  - Donated my usual. Hang in there...  Ryano42   Aug-20-10 09:00 AM   #54 
  - I just donated  AC_Mem   Aug-20-10 09:00 AM   #55 
  - Skinner, it isn't just what is going on here at DU that is effecting donations,  MadHound   Aug-20-10 09:03 AM   #61 
  - back to school, economy, escalation of expense of living, stagnent wage, BACK TO SCHOOL, lol  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:07 AM   #72 
  - KPFA, the progressive radio station that started listener-supported radio back in '49,  deutsey   Aug-20-10 09:22 AM   #106 
  - Skinner, this is the best site out there. On the survey  saltpoint   Aug-20-10 09:04 AM   #64 
  - Skinner, I love DU the best place ever.  Monique1   Aug-20-10 09:41 AM   #146 
  - Perhaps if you had a GD where it's a free for all and one forthose who stay civilized  LynneSin   Aug-20-10 09:05 AM   #65 
  - That's a good idea: "a GD where it's a free for all and one for those who stay civilized"  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 09:26 AM   #117 
  - Like a GD =General Discussion and a GDP =General Discussion Pleasant only  LaurenG   Aug-20-10 10:24 AM   #247 
  - SEGREGATE the Progressives???? Are you kidding me?  Subdivisions   Aug-20-10 12:17 PM   #586 
  - Segregate those who want to get nasty and battle it all out  LynneSin   Aug-20-10 04:55 PM   #1074 
  - Power concedes nothing without a THREAT.  Lilith Velkor   Aug-20-10 02:56 PM   #895 
  - amusing considering some posts pointing out Crist support here got disappeared  havocmom   Aug-20-10 10:56 PM   #1378 
  - +1  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 06:08 AM   #1482 
  - I don't mind criticism of the president, but I do see certain people who seem to get away  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 09:05 AM   #67 
  - Think this is an example of taking posts too personally -- try "ignore" ...  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:42 PM   #756 
  - What is wrong with disagreement?  Jakes Progress   Aug-20-10 09:09 AM   #75 
  - The place becomes a complete BORE on days when it's Obama Central.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:13 AM   #83 
  - Well, it is a Democratic website. So, on substance one  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:24 AM   #113 
  - What is anti democratic about want single payer. What is anti democratic about wanting to  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   #125 
  - Are you really suggesting people have been banned for  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 09:32 AM   #131 
  - I'll express whatever the hell i want.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:36 AM   #136 
  - Way to avoid the question.  BzaDem   Aug-20-10 09:39 AM   #143 
  - People like you got them banned by saying they were anti Obama.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:44 AM   #150 
     - I have never tried to get anyone banned.  BzaDem   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #174 
     - Good then. What's your problem with me then?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #220 
        - I don't have a problem with you. I simply pointed out that people are not banned for supporting  BzaDem   Aug-20-10 10:16 AM   #227 
           - YaY!  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:20 AM   #235 
     - Why are you trying to pick fights in this thread?  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 09:55 AM   #179 
        - it is boring to sit and read how wonderful it is under obama, when I think a lot of it sucks!  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:16 AM   #225 
        - Then I think you need to go somewhere else where you'll be happier  Gman   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   #353 
        - Fuck that shit! Who the fuck are you to tell someone they'll be happier  Subdivisions   Aug-20-10 12:27 PM   # 
           - Sorry... I was here first!  Gman   Aug-20-10 12:40 PM   #637 
              - "I was here first"?  MissDeeds   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #887 
                 - LOL!  Gman   Aug-21-10 11:17 AM   #1575 
        - I agree with you, Mr. Bean. There are big problems and some would rather cheerleader than take them  w4rma   Aug-20-10 06:23 PM   #1199 
        - This kind of crap  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 10:26 AM   #252 
           - feeling is mutual.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:30 AM   #261 
           - For one thing....  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 10:45 AM   #299 
              - I have mostly responded to replies to my reply.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:49 AM   #307 
                 - Yes.  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 10:53 AM   #320 
           - Yep, troublemakers. n/t  Subdivisions   Aug-20-10 12:27 PM   #605 
  - But not for simply saying so. I believe strongly in single payer as well.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:06 AM   #201 
  - People have been banned for criticizing Obama over it.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:17 AM   #229 
  - now now, don't get in the way of a blossoming tantrum! sit back, have a truffle or two, and enjoy it  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:39 AM   #281 
     - You have no idea  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:42 AM   #287 
  - I believe strongly in single payer and I'm not banned.  tridim   Aug-20-10 10:30 AM   #260 
  - they were banned for not being able to be civil, not for supporting single payer.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:38 AM   #277 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-10 11:15 AM   #391 
        - wow, does this mean we're not buddies?  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:17 AM   #399 
  - I'd like single payer. You would, too, right, geek tragedy?  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:05 AM   #198 
     - Say obama's a corporatist for doing what he did, when he had the will of the people on  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:18 AM   #231 
        - I don't believe that, so I won't say it. But Skinner has said that's allowed.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:34 AM   #270 
           - So we are back to what I originally posted. You have to watch what you say. nt  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:54 AM   #321 
              - yes sherlock. on a private board for democrats, you can't slander them. the concept is quite simple.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:57 AM   #331 
                 - What was the slander? you think calling Obama a corporatist is slander?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:02 AM   #342 
                    - sometimes.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:08 AM   # 
  - But YOU are the one who just turned this discussion into a group attack.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:03 AM   #195 
  - I'm not going to deny there are two distinct groups here.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:19 AM   #233 
     - I guess I just wonder why you attacked so quickly, is all. nt  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:36 AM   #272 
        - What you call an "attack" isn't an attack at all. it's an opinion.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:52 AM   #318 
           - Discussion is over after reading what you've said to Roy below. nt  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:55 AM   #326 
           - when you bust out "you and all your little friends" straight away, it's an insult, and you know it.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:56 AM   #328 
              - Skinner recognizes there are two groups on DU. What is wrong with me  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:57 AM   #332 
  - "you and all your little friends"... ROFL.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:37 AM   #275 
  - And Your Little Dog Too!  Beetwasher   Aug-20-10 11:17 AM   #398 
  - No one said either of those things are anti-democratic.  Arkana   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #888 
  - I counted 11 "little friends" swarming you.  Touchdown   Aug-21-10 07:59 PM   #1677 
  - If we are all fighting against government being moved to the RIGHT ....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:45 PM   #760 
  - Yea It Depends  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:29 AM   #120 
  - I can't recall any day it has been "Obama Central" since around the inauguration. nt  Lisa0825   Aug-20-10 09:34 AM   #133 
  - Really? Look into every thread. You shall see it here in this thread.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:38 AM   #142 
     - because this is not Repuglican Underground  Whisp   Aug-20-10 09:52 AM   #168 
     - Not difficult to comprehend. But one may think it is the way certain policies are defended on this  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:22 AM   #242 
     - Nor should it be corporate underground . . . we are all fighting against the right, aren't we?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 01:48 PM   #768 
     - Yeah, and I see lots of positive AND negative posts everyday. nt  Lisa0825   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #173 
  - It doesn't occur to you that you're part of the problem, does it?  jeff47   Aug-20-10 03:31 PM   #956 
  - OH hell...  AsahinaKimi   Aug-20-10 09:14 AM   #87 
  - perhap restructure the fundraiser as opposed to the site  dembotoz   Aug-20-10 09:15 AM   #88 
  - Beautiful Post  EnlightenedOne   Aug-20-10 09:16 AM   #92 
  - I'm with you, EnlightenedOne  BlancheSplanchnik   Aug-20-10 09:59 AM   #188 
  - Thanks Blanche  EnlightenedOne   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #297 
  - What was your other name?  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 01:01 PM   #681 
  - GREAT post. I agree. n/t  YvonneCa   Aug-20-10 02:34 PM   #860 
  - seriously, a lot of people are just broke.  Soylent Brice   Aug-20-10 09:18 AM   #94 
  - it isn't about "what DU has become" for me Skinner, DU is  Bluerthanblue   Aug-20-10 09:19 AM   #97 
  - I know it's hard work running an MB with so many different  malaise   Aug-20-10 09:20 AM   #98 
  - Good post!  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 10:06 AM   #202 
  - What has happened to DU is NOT THE FAULT of the site, but of those who come here.  T Wolf   Aug-20-10 09:20 AM   #101 
  - I usually hate your new ideas at first Skinner  NNN0LHI   Aug-20-10 09:23 AM   #107 
  - "I usually hate your new ideas at first Skinner"  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 10:09 AM   #207 
  - The problem is not competing groups, it's competing *ideals*.  metapunditedgy   Aug-20-10 09:23 AM   #108 
  - Actually, most of us share the same "ideals". But keeping your eyes to the stars  KittyWampus   Aug-20-10 09:30 AM   #121 
     - Oh, so we've moved from being idealist purists to cynics?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:48 AM   #159 
     - Cast it as "good guys" vs. "bad guys" if you want, but I'm saying that you simply can't  metapunditedgy   Aug-20-10 11:19 AM   #402 
     - Nope. I don't think we share the same ideals.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:19 PM   #1110 
  - For some of us, it is simply a matter of economics.  ohheckyeah   Aug-20-10 09:24 AM   #111 
  - The solution is simple - enforce your own stated rules.  Prism   Aug-20-10 09:24 AM   #112 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   # 
  - Posting that required courage.  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 09:38 AM   #140 
  - More discussion...............  Desertrose   Aug-20-10 11:08 AM   #369 
  - + 7  Change has come   Aug-20-10 10:30 AM   #262 
  - Excellent summation of things, Prism.  Desertrose   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #362 
  - that's the way it 'feels' to me  G_j   Aug-20-10 11:16 AM   #394 
  - +7  Yuugal   Aug-20-10 11:25 AM   #421 
  - "The Barack Obama Group has created a veritable West Side Story on DU..."  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:39 AM   #474 
  - it's clear that "obama supporter" are their clear enemy. it's actually hillarious.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #498 
  - IR  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:41 PM   #870 
  - when i posted a thread about losing our liberalness and diversity at DU it was locked  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 12:57 PM   #671 
  - That has been the norm of "unbiased" moderation here for quite a while.  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 01:09 PM   #703 
  - A fish stinks from the head.  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 01:01 PM   #680 
  - Thank for for stating that plainly --  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 01:06 PM   #694 
  - This times a billion.  jane_pippin   Aug-20-10 01:12 PM   #709 
  - +666 -- No point in starting my own post, this sums it up.  Ignis   Aug-20-10 02:08 PM   #805 
  - +7  Duncan Grant   Aug-20-10 02:28 PM   # 
  - +1. Finally someone tells the truth. Thank you. For every single word. n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 02:44 PM   #874 
  - + infinity  Lucian   Aug-20-10 03:02 PM   #911 
  - +100,000  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 03:18 PM   #936 
  - +1  Hong Kong Cavalier   Aug-20-10 03:19 PM   #938 
  - Unbiased enforcement is the key.  pecwae   Aug-20-10 04:03 PM   #1010 
  - VERY well said! Just one thing....  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 05:10 PM   #1099 
  - The treatment of the poor is appalling  Prism   Aug-20-10 06:14 PM   #1188 
     - Your words are excellent, and yes, the 80s vitriol is now everyday DU.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 06:23 PM   #1197 
        - Homelessness and LGBT rights are inextricably linked  Prism   Aug-20-10 06:49 PM   #1220 
           - I absolutely agree, and that is why I can't understand why gays have not become active  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 06:56 PM   #1228 
              - I think it's partially a protective mechanism, partially the diversity  Prism   Aug-21-10 04:04 AM   #1474 
                 - I agree..... there is a time in the life of an oppressed group when it is imperative  bobbolink   Aug-21-10 01:26 PM   #1598 
  - +7  Spheric   Aug-20-10 05:21 PM   #1113 
  - Yes, the LGBT purge during the campaign season was cynical.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:39 PM   #1145 
  - bingo  paulk   Aug-20-10 05:40 PM   #1147 
  - and some can threaten...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-20-10 06:03 PM   #1174 
  - Or say people shouldn't get special privileges based on what they shove into their rectums.  Prism   Aug-20-10 06:11 PM   #1185 
  - To be fair...  awoke_in_2003   Aug-20-10 08:15 PM   #1302 
  - "I think we should form a committee to sniff out the frustrating elusive truth  Foo Fighter   Aug-20-10 11:40 PM   #1394 
  - That bugs me BIG TIME  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:05 PM   #1236 
  - There's a lot of truth in this. I see some of the same people going around  gkhouston   Aug-20-10 08:17 PM   #1304 
  - Here since 2002 and agree wholeheartedly  carolinayellowdog   Aug-20-10 08:48 PM   #1322 
  - Wow, I've never seen a thread this long on DU that wasn't about Chavez  leftstreet   Aug-20-10 11:53 PM   #1402 
  - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 12:47 AM   #1420 
  - this is the one that speaks for me  carolinayellowdog   Aug-21-10 06:58 AM   #1499 
  - +1. Hell, plus +10,000, if I could.  terrya   Aug-21-10 07:35 AM   #1513 
  - appoint a DIVERSE and REPRESENTATIVE collection of mods.  nashville_brook   Aug-21-10 09:45 AM   #1552 
  - Okay ...  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 09:26 AM   #115 
  - Discuss the issues sir, and leave the man (obama) out of it and let's see what you come up with.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:35 AM   #134 
  - What?  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 09:48 AM   #161 
  - Discuss the issues. Stop making it about Democratic Party Loyalty.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:53 AM   #172 
     - Yeahokay ...  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 10:04 AM   #197 
     - Well, you have withdrawn, what difference would it make now.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:07 AM   #204 
        - Once again ...  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #219 
        - Skinner, Skinner, please respond to RoyGBiv. He is only here to talk to you. nt  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:23 AM   #245 
           - wow, what the hell is your problem?  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:43 AM   #291 
           - Now you're just being mean. You have no clue what's going on here. None.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:49 AM   #309 
           - Here's your problem, Skinner ...  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 11:01 AM   #341 
              - Yes, ban boston bean that would solve all the problems.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #363 
              - are you trying to do your best to make a case for it, or something? you're putting on quite a show.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:10 AM   #374 
              - You now become my "ignore" number  truedelphi   Aug-21-10 02:35 PM   #1611 
              - That's dishonest. Roy said maybe it would be best to ban HIM if it's okay for people like YOU to  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:11 AM   #377 
              - Oh yes, put Roy on the cross for boston beans sins. please......  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:19 AM   #403 
                 - Actually, I greatly appreciate that you've illustrated Roy's point so very well.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:27 AM   #428 
                 - !  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #445 
                 - oh please, boston bean has made the case that all who don't agree with Roy or  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:32 AM   #451 
                 - Not a dude, but thanks for playing.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:37 AM   #462 
                 - good one.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:38 AM   #470 
                 - why are you referring to yourself in third person like bob dole?  dionysus   Aug-20-10 12:05 PM   #556 
                    - Took the wrong little blue pill?  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 02:00 PM   #790 
                 - Love ya!  azmouse   Aug-20-10 01:41 PM   #754 
                    - Backatcha!  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:59 PM   #787 
                 - In one fell swoop I just improved DU for me & me alone.  sellitman   Aug-20-10 07:15 PM   #1245 
              - You'll be banned and you'll say "See, I too was banned just because I support single payer"  GOTV   Aug-20-10 11:55 AM   #531 
                 - Why would I be banned? please enlighten me.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 01:08 PM   #701 
              - I agree. I have no earthly idea why that poster would belittle you in that manner but it's horrid.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:09 AM   #371 
                 - horrid?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:14 AM   #384 
                    - .  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:15 AM   #390 
                       - Well, I guess it was a little rought and bristling  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:17 AM   #397 
                          - Actually, it was all of the above  SoxFan   Aug-20-10 05:21 PM   #1111 
        - "I'm here trying to honestly give my opinion" No, what you are doing is baiting, looking for a fight  Hekate   Aug-20-10 04:56 PM   #1077 
     - god damn if you aren't proving Roy's point perfectly.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:42 AM   #288 
     - I am truly sorry I ever tried to engage in a civil discussion with you after that diatribe  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 10:54 AM   #322 
        - i instructed wadsworth to buy stock in Pampers... my portfolio has been booming lately...  dionysus   Aug-20-10 10:59 AM   #335 
           - here comes the swarm do do do do. here comes the swarm  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:03 AM   #347 
           - yes, just another cackle of rads, we are. bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #359 
           - LOL  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 05:33 PM   #1133 
           - bitter much?  lillypaddle   Aug-20-10 12:25 PM   #601 
           - 2 Posters are a swarm, who knew?  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 12:42 PM   #642 
           - You might want to diversify and buy some Depends stock for all the pissing contests.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:05 AM   #356 
  - Why don't you find something else to do instead of harassing people?  Number23   Aug-20-10 07:35 PM   #1272 
  - I concur in a lot of what you say  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 09:37 AM   #137 
  - It's not anti Democratic. The issues are not Anti Democratic.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:39 AM   #144 
     - much of the rhetoric I see is anti-Obama with many posters who give him credit for nothing  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 09:48 AM   #160 
        - Speak to the issue please. Leave Obama out of it. What do you and I disagree about on the issues.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #175 
           - Up to 18 now.  Touchdown   Aug-21-10 08:33 PM   #1678 
  - I really can't tell what you mean  liberalmike27   Aug-20-10 09:49 AM   #162 
  - That's fine ...  RoyGBiv   Aug-20-10 10:05 AM   #200 
     - If that was the case, your comments would be a PM.  jeff47   Aug-20-10 03:38 PM   #967 
  - First, politics isn't about personalities .... it's about issues which impact our lives ... every  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:00 PM   #791 
  - +1. I personally don't care about Obama. I'm not for him or against him I'm only  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:10 PM   #1097 
     - Right -- the issues don't change because we have a different president -- !!  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 07:09 PM   #1239 
  - + A million  Number23   Aug-20-10 07:38 PM   #1276 
  - What a very conscientious statement.  glitch   Aug-20-10 09:27 AM   #118 
  - "You and Elad have created a remarkable thing here"  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 09:47 AM   #157 
  - DAMMIT! I knew I was forgetting someone. But I hadn't had my tea yet.  glitch   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #176 
  - It has to split.  LiberalAndProud   Aug-20-10 10:23 AM   #244 
     - I really wanted the DLC to take over the Republican Party. I thought it was a more natural fit.  glitch   Aug-20-10 03:05 PM   #916 
        - That would be a really nice thing. And  truedelphi   Aug-21-10 02:32 PM   #1609 
           - Coulda been great. And  glitch   Aug-21-10 06:33 PM   #1663 
  - Dear Skinner:  BonnieJW   Aug-20-10 09:28 AM   #119 
  - Allow me to donate on live without paypal, please  randr   Aug-20-10 09:30 AM   #122 
  - I'm not donating because I don't have the money  lunatica   Aug-20-10 09:30 AM   #124 
  - My 2 cents.  sixstrings75   Aug-20-10 09:31 AM   #128 
  - You are far from alone.  demmiblue   Aug-20-10 09:45 AM   #154 
  - +1  rucky   Aug-20-10 09:51 AM   #166 
  - Funny you bring him up as an example  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #442 
  - OMC didn't have a "challenging viewpoint," he was just a pretentious prick.  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 11:45 AM   # 
  - OMC was a first rate asshole  fascisthunter   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #1090 
  - No you are not alone in thinking this.  tnlefty   Aug-20-10 11:36 AM   #460 
  - Yes, it is just a handful of people.  girl gone mad   Aug-20-10 11:37 AM   #464 
  - Bulletproof assholes is the #1 problem.  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #481 
  - OMC, er I mean OMG, that is spot on.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-20-10 12:47 PM   #652 
  - Oh yes!  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 02:17 PM   #827 
  - ^^^ Yes, that.  Ignis   Aug-20-10 03:12 PM   #927 
  - You are not alone. A (seemingly) organized hardcore of 20 or so posters  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 12:39 PM   #636 
  - Agree --  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:03 PM   #796 
  - ...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-20-10 12:51 PM   #659 
  - +100 that has been going on for years  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 01:07 PM   #698 
  - There's strong evidence to think you're projecting.  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 02:30 PM   #855 
  - +1. More truth. Excellent. And to emphatically quote you:  Catherina   Aug-20-10 02:51 PM   #883 
  - You're not alone. I also think there's a propaganda crew. They start threads but  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:15 PM   #1105 
  - This is the core of the problem for me as well.  wickerwoman   Aug-20-10 05:46 PM   #1157 
  - That's commendable.  Stinky The Clown   Aug-21-10 09:20 AM   #1545 
  - Well said. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 07:31 PM   #1264 
  - Maybe we should have an ostracism method.  bigmonkey   Aug-20-10 09:46 PM   #1356 
  - +10,000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 12:55 AM   #1424 
  - +1 n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Aug-21-10 11:09 AM   #1572 
  - Kick. Rough economy and back to school for many of my friends...  NYC_SKP   Aug-20-10 09:34 AM   #132 
  - I see this a good spot to pipe in on.  jotsy   Aug-20-10 12:56 PM   #667 
     - This is a terrific reply, jotsy, damn good!  NYC_SKP   Aug-20-10 08:51 PM   #1324 
  - I usually donate on first or second day, but have been hesitating ...  philly_bob   Aug-20-10 09:38 AM   #141 
  - You're a stand-up guy, Skinner  FirstTimeVoterAt37   Aug-20-10 09:40 AM   #145 
  - You've got a donor star now.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 09:47 AM   #158 
     - I'll do my best  FirstTimeVoterAt37   Aug-20-10 10:11 AM   #212 
  - DU has lost its objectivity.  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 09:43 AM   #148 
  - there is all kind of policy disagreement.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:02 AM   #344 
  - "And, yes, you lose when you compare site rules to Nazism."  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:11 AM   #375 
     - "Too bad the BOGgers are incapable of intelligent, fair, logical argumentation"  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:26 AM   #425 
        - Shouldn't you be swarming with your fellow BOGgers?  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #441 
           - Thank you for proving my point more vividly  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:32 AM   #450 
              - You had a point?  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:39 AM   #471 
                 - No, the problem isn't them.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #486 
                    - LOL!  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:55 AM   #530 
                       - As opposed to threads making the Rec List  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:57 AM   #539 
                          - And Boggers organized to have it shut down by pretending it was a "racist" thread.  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:08 PM   #921 
                             - Know how many times I was called a racist for supporting Hillary?  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:38 PM   #969 
                             - Those were ugly primaries. They may be over but the tactics remain.  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:09 PM   #1020 
                                - LostinVA and Catherina, you 2 are sweethearts  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:45 PM   #1282 
                                - Mimosa, you're a real gem  Catherina   Aug-21-10 02:00 AM   #1448 
                                - I know you never did, and don't you dare apologize for anything  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 08:20 PM   #1306 
                                   - We clashed a lot  Catherina   Aug-21-10 01:57 AM   #1447 
                                      - I think I may have even had yon on Ignore for a while  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 07:02 AM   #1501 
                             - Yes, that word has been beat to death here, but it is used so often because it is effective, I guess  Skip Intro   Aug-20-10 04:52 PM   #1072 
                             - Hear, hear!!!  Beacool   Aug-21-10 02:42 AM   #1462 
                                - Hi my friend. Once in a while but less and less. This thread sparks some hope  Catherina   Aug-21-10 11:29 PM   #1701 
                                   - This is a good thread and Skinner did meet his goal.  Beacool   Aug-22-10 12:52 AM   #1705 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:04 PM   #798 
  - +1 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 02:56 PM   #897 
  - Spot on. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 07:40 PM   #1279 
  - Good Luck on fund raising  SargeUNN   Aug-20-10 09:44 AM   #149 
  - If a Republicon president is what it takes to make DU home ...  LiberalAndProud   Aug-20-10 09:44 AM   #151 
  - Remember when you dropped the gavel on marriage equality? That was good. More issues need that.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-20-10 09:45 AM   #152 
  - .  fascisthunter   Aug-20-10 12:32 PM   #618 
  - Forgive me, I have read through this and some of the responses,  tnlefty   Aug-20-10 09:45 AM   #153 
  - I was also surprised at that .... maybe those e-mails should be made public ....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:11 PM   #810 
     - I doubt that those would ever be made public...  tnlefty   Aug-20-10 07:48 PM   #1283 
        - Well, it was really not something I expected would happen.... but I did elsewhere encourage....  defendandprotect   Aug-21-10 11:33 PM   #1703 
  - Why aren't the rule changes helping?  rucky   Aug-20-10 09:46 AM   #156 
  - re: sides  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 09:50 AM   #163 
  - Very interesting post  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   #352 
  - Yes.  Starry Messenger   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #572 
  - Agreed.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:49 PM   #1161 
  - You hit it on the head!  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 05:02 AM   #1479 
  - You might consider, as a gesture of good faith, an amnesty for those stalwarts who have been banned  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 09:50 AM   #164 
  - Amen. n/t  BeHereNow   Aug-20-10 09:52 AM   #169 
  - Amnesty -- good idea ... it's been extended to a few notable posters here ....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:14 PM   #815 
  - Yes! Totally Agree, an Amnesty is needed. eom  jannyk   Aug-20-10 02:14 PM   #818 
  - +1.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:50 PM   #1163 
  - I used to donate twice a year or so. I am now a monthly donor... but  Lisa0825   Aug-20-10 09:50 AM   #165 
  - thanks for your honesty  mrs_p   Aug-20-10 09:54 AM   #177 
  - Thanks, Skinner, for all that you  SnowCritter   Aug-20-10 09:57 AM   #183 
  - Psst...  pacalo   Aug-20-10 09:57 AM   #184 
  - As an aside, I always thought "number of donations" measures precious little.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-20-10 09:58 AM   #185 
  - moreover, it masks the degree to which the community contributes. that robs the  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 04:35 PM   #1053 
  - Get rid of GDP  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 09:59 AM   #186 
  - Thank you, Skinner.  Terra Alta   Aug-20-10 09:59 AM   #187 
  - Frankly, when DU became a haven for those that want to destroy the Obama presidency...  scheming daemons   Aug-20-10 10:01 AM   #192 
  - You expressed what I am thinking as well. n/t  countingbluecars   Aug-20-10 10:09 AM   #206 
  - The teacher and union bashing is what makes me crazy  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 10:34 AM   #268 
     - Probably because you don't have a leg to stand on.  Joe Fields   Aug-20-10 01:04 PM   #686 
     - And a pleasant Friday afternoon to you too, Joe!  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 01:28 PM   #741 
     - +100  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 01:48 PM   #767 
     - The balance in my checking account is close to zero  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 03:47 PM   #982 
        - Joe merely noted the irony of you refusing to donate because of 'bashing.'  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 04:30 PM   #1043 
           - I didn't say I refused to donate because of bashing  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 05:14 PM   #1104 
     - Kinda just made P2BL's point for her  Reader Rabbit   Aug-20-10 02:00 PM   #792 
     - Yes, no leg to stand on...except all those facts and reality and evidence and that kind of thing.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 10:46 PM   #1374 
     - Same here.  Dappleganger   Aug-20-10 07:57 PM   #1291 
  - these are my thoughts too  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 10:09 AM   #208 
  - "Frankly, when DU became a haven for those that want to destroy the Obama presidency..."  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 10:24 AM   #248 
  - I agree- It's not about the party, it's about issues that effect real people.  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 10:34 AM   #267 
  - "Voting for someone with a (D) after their name hasn't helped"  scheming daemons   Aug-20-10 10:34 AM   #269 
  - Okay, I'll play.  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 10:47 AM   # 
  - ***crickets***  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 12:08 PM   #561 
  - Would it bother you too much  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 10:57 AM   #330 
  - Does it "bother" me? No.  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #357 
  - Would you be addressing something  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 11:08 AM   #367 
     - "launching a random attack?"  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 11:13 AM   #383 
        - I was merely suggesting  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 11:49 AM   #507 
  - I have to wonder why you chose to reply to her reply,  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 01:20 PM   #727 
     - not sure if this is worth the effort  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 02:26 PM   #850 
        - So my question is drivel while "when DU became a haven for those that want to destroy the...  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 03:05 PM   #914 
           - Exactly. +1 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:27 PM   #949 
  - +1 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:24 PM   #943 
  - Great post! It's insane to identify oneself with a politician at the expense of issues.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:52 PM   #1167 
  - Exactly.  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 10:39 AM   #283 
  - +1 n/t  JTFrog   Aug-20-10 11:38 AM   #467 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Aug-20-10 10:40 AM   #285 
  - Agreed.  Patsy Stone   Aug-20-10 10:49 AM   #308 
  - Many of the posters you are smearing, which you are, were here long before Obama  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:07 AM   #364 
  - Hear! Hear! +1000!!!!  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-20-10 11:34 AM   #454 
  - +10,000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 06:59 PM   #1668 
  - + infinity  JTFrog   Aug-20-10 12:05 PM   #557 
  - Good job. Take Skinners post about the schism and it's consequences and turn  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 12:23 PM   #595 
  - The difference between DU and other forums like Kos is very dramatic.  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 01:00 PM   #677 
  - That is it in a nutshell --  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 01:19 PM   #725 
  - +1  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 01:33 PM   #746 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:53 PM   #1168 
  - +1000. Truly amazing that this simple concept totally escapes so many here. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-21-10 09:13 AM   #1542 
  - Couldn't agree more.  azmouse   Aug-20-10 01:48 PM   #764 
  - When you continue to see politics as personalities -- Obama --  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:16 PM   #824 
  - +1  Kahuna   Aug-20-10 02:20 PM   #833 
  - Are you saying that the Obama Administration is really so weak?  jannyk   Aug-20-10 02:39 PM   #866 
  - +1. That proliferation, and protection of attackers who twist things, has a devastating effect. n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:32 PM   #957 
  - Yep and yep.  Number23   Aug-20-10 08:22 PM   #1310 
  - The donation site won't accept my credit card  DFW   Aug-20-10 10:01 AM   #193 
  - Don't underestimate the ECONOMIC reasons for people not donating.  kestrel91316   Aug-20-10 10:03 AM   #194 
  - Quite  nxylas   Aug-21-10 07:42 AM   #1514 
  - I haven't donated in about a year and a half. and it isn't a montary issue  TZ   Aug-20-10 10:03 AM   #196 
  - I got fired  libodem   Aug-20-10 10:07 AM   #203 
  - : (  Soylent Brice   Aug-20-10 10:11 AM   #211 
  - I think I have a small solution to this problem which will generate funds.  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 10:10 AM   #209 
  - I quit donating to DU because I feel like my opinions and views are censored.  earth mom   Aug-20-10 10:12 AM   #214 
  - and when your post isnt deleted, are you going to come back and say, "color me surprised" and maybe  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #222 
  - Why are you attacking my post? This is MY opinion and MY reasons for not donating, not yours. nt  earth mom   Aug-20-10 10:20 AM   #237 
     - you are accusing du of something that isn't going to happen.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 10:47 AM   #304 
        - Awesome DUers have been tombstoned for speaking the EXACT SAME TRUTH I do every time I come to DU.  earth mom   Aug-20-10 11:24 AM   #417 
           - lets see, "SAME TRUTH I do every time I come to DU.". and here you are and  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 11:33 AM   #452 
              - The DUers I'm talking about should NEVER have been tombstoned in the first place.  earth mom   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #494 
              - I shouldn't do this but I'm going to  LaurenG   Aug-20-10 03:24 PM   #944 
                 - lol, ok. nearly attacking?  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:23 PM   #1035 
                    - Well to heck with the nuance - over your head huh?  LaurenG   Aug-20-10 05:10 PM   #1098 
                       - why?? why do my posts have to be interpreted as over the head, or forget nuance or  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:29 PM   #1124 
                          - I was talking about your post  LaurenG   Aug-20-10 05:40 PM   #1148 
                             - see, i am not angry in these posts. though i think there is some  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:55 PM   #1170 
  - Oh, my...why do you suppose your post would be deleted?  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 10:33 AM   #266 
  - Posts are deleted frequently that don't violate the rules.  Ignis   Aug-20-10 03:35 PM   #961 
     - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:39 PM   #970 
     - I don't know whether that's true or not. Generally, by the time  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 03:51 PM   #987 
        - I'm simply using the evidence available to me.  Ignis   Aug-20-10 04:02 PM   #1005 
           - Well, you'd have to be a lot more specific, 'cause I'm not  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 04:04 PM   #1011 
              - You've never seen a gross rule violation left undeleted?  Ignis   Aug-20-10 04:05 PM   #1013 
              - Well, I don't read every thread. But no, I haven't. I've seen lots of  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 06:54 PM   #1223 
              - How about this:  wickerwoman   Aug-20-10 11:47 PM   #1398 
                 - Yep. Recognize that person and agree.  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 05:31 AM   #1480 
  - +1000% ---  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:22 PM   #838 
  - Hey look! Your post is still here!...nt  SidDithers   Aug-21-10 11:31 AM   #1576 
  - I donated a couple of months ago, when I had the money.  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 10:13 AM   #216 
  - Good post! You make sense. n/t  countingbluecars   Aug-20-10 10:15 AM   #223 
  - "I donated a couple of months ago, when I had the money."  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 10:22 AM   #240 
  - There is only ONE [lace in the universe, where the lefter can hash out our schpeel, before  WingDinger   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #217 
  - The open mockery and jeering at President Obama here  Whisp   Aug-20-10 10:14 AM   #221 
  - The disrespect and mockery come from people with an agenda  flamingdem   Aug-20-10 10:25 AM   #250 
  - Did you not donate because of your feelings?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 10:26 AM   #253 
     - whether or why I donate or not is none of your fucking business  Whisp   Aug-20-10 10:40 AM   #284 
        - 10-4  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:51 AM   #514 
  - Ive always wondered if you liked me.  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 10:15 AM   #224 
  - If we continue to use the unrec feature,  Control-Z   Aug-20-10 12:25 PM   #602 
  - I agree with a lot here  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 12:37 PM   #627 
  - No complaints here. I just need a few more days.  byronius   Aug-20-10 10:16 AM   #226 
  - Just donated for two Skinner  Monique1   Aug-20-10 10:21 AM   #238 
  - Well, I made it through my corporate takeover, so I'm back in for  smirkymonkey   Aug-20-10 10:18 AM   #232 
  - DU is a Truth Machine.  Octafish   Aug-20-10 10:20 AM   #236 
  - Who is going to be the arbiter  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 07:45 AM   #1515 
     - The Facts.  Octafish   Aug-21-10 12:06 PM   #1585 
  - I've become a lot poorer than I used to be.  backscatter712   Aug-20-10 10:22 AM   #241 
  - i think you misstated the problem here:  tomp   Aug-20-10 10:23 AM   #243 
  - Well, that's the thing,.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:55 AM   #327 
     - i would expect nothing different.  tomp   Aug-21-10 03:49 PM   #1627 
  - Look forward to the survey  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 10:24 AM   #246 
  - Just how much time a day do you spend reading these forums?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 10:26 AM   #251 
  - The irony in your post is mind numbing.  VMI Dem   Aug-20-10 10:54 AM   #323 
  - Why, hello there.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 11:00 AM   #339 
  - LOL, no kidding  liberation   Aug-20-10 11:40 AM   #475 
  - Took the words  Control-Z   Aug-20-10 12:30 PM   #616 
  - It is, isn't it?  flvegan   Aug-20-10 12:54 PM   #665 
  - Agreed.  Lucian   Aug-20-10 03:40 PM   #972 
  - It really does make one's head spin, doesn't it?  Nostradammit   Aug-20-10 06:23 PM   #1198 
  - You are really unbelievable sometimes, HFPS  hlthe2b   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #485 
     - How often do you see him involved in discussions?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 12:14 PM   #579 
  - I'm a DU'er first, last and always...  SidDithers   Aug-20-10 10:27 AM   #254 
  - The perception of many is that you've largely been getting your way- and hence, a problem  depakid   Aug-20-10 10:31 AM   #264 
  - I'm far from agreement with you on many issues...  TZ   Aug-20-10 10:58 AM   #334 
     - Exactly  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:12 AM   #379 
     - Conversely, you can see two "provokers" repeatedly spamming this very thread with impunity  depakid   Aug-20-10 11:21 AM   #408 
     - You and bean?..nt  SidDithers   Aug-20-10 12:01 PM   #551 
        - show me spamming. show me where i have called a person a name, where i have ridiculed with words  boston bean   Aug-20-10 12:52 PM   #660 
     - +1. +1000. And the mod system is blind to the provocations which only encourages more of it n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:43 PM   # 
  - You're not even an American.  corki   Aug-20-10 11:24 AM   #418 
     - Ever heard of Americans Abroad?  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 01:02 PM   #682 
        - That's Naja/  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:39 PM   #752 
           - i'm starting to get a vague notion they don't like us!  dionysus   Aug-20-10 02:33 PM   #858 
           - Was it the "I really hate that asshole" part or the "ban those 4 shitstain trolls" part  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 02:49 PM   #879 
              - and here i thought they were mellow people....  dionysus   Aug-20-10 02:54 PM   #892 
           - I knew it was a "shadow" person, it was obvious.  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 03:42 PM   #976 
           - They're so cute at that age, aren't they?  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 03:52 PM   #992 
           - oh dear  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 03:52 PM   #988 
           - Naja, arcadian, Jara Sang, Goathead, corki...  SidDithers   Aug-21-10 11:42 AM   #1579 
  - We need a new rule. Everytime a DUer's is mad at another DUer they have to  Joanne98   Aug-20-10 10:29 AM   #255 
  - When you see my name  Cetacea   Aug-20-10 10:38 AM   #279 
  - Alright I'm in  whatchamacallit   Aug-20-10 10:29 AM   #256 
  - No problems, Chief :-)  JaneFordA   Aug-20-10 10:29 AM   #258 
  - Progressive Underground?  GeorgeGist   Aug-20-10 10:32 AM   #265 
  - Well that would be one solution and would make more sense with many of the posters here  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 10:36 AM   #273 
  - The problem is that the site would then suffer huge traffic  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:00 AM   #340 
  - All those threads supporting rightwing Crist that the mods said were ok hurt DU's credibility  Catherina   Aug-20-10 03:59 PM   #1001 
  - Better Nader than Crist  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:13 AM   #382 
  - Agree -- wasn't that the original dedication of the website...to PROGRESSIVE solutions?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:25 PM   #843 
  - dupe ... but will use it to reply to "increased traffic here" ... are we against new members?  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:26 PM   #849 
  - Great idea...  SidDithers   Aug-21-10 11:50 AM   #1581 
  - Hey Skinner, thanks for taking the time to let us know what's up  Trailrider1951   Aug-20-10 10:36 AM   #271 
  - I'm giving my money to candidates, Skinner  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-20-10 10:38 AM   #278 
  - That was an incredible post Skinner. An interesting peek behind the scenes.  Javaman   Aug-20-10 10:41 AM   #286 
  - There's really only two things I would change.  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 10:42 AM   #289 
  - um, I have this feeling  AsahinaKimi   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #293 
  - I dunno Skinner. I haven't donated because I donate in the fall but gave again  AllyCat   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #294 
  - Hi Skinner! I think there's more to the donations issue than unhappiness with DU.  AndyA   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #295 
  - Interesting post and points, but please consider  ProSense   Aug-20-10 10:44 AM   #296 
  - I agree with this. Many of us have once...  YvonneCa   Aug-20-10 02:42 PM   #871 
  - Here's an example of what the problem is, Skinner:  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 10:47 AM   #305 
  - I get those emotion based responses as well.  Javaman   Aug-20-10 10:51 AM   #312 
  - That's a fairly common thing. The one word response that  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 02:05 PM   #800 
  - I admit to doing too many posts  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 07:50 AM   #1517 
  - This is a good example, Skinner.  Hansel   Aug-20-10 09:11 PM   #1334 
  - I think the "center of gravity" analogy is spot on.  corkhead   Aug-20-10 10:50 AM   #310 
  - Good post n/t  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:14 AM   #386 
  - I donated for years when it was easy to donate. Before Paypal which  skip fox   Aug-20-10 10:51 AM   #313 
  - and maybe the slow donations have something to do with the economy /nt  still_one   Aug-20-10 10:51 AM   #314 
  - Please nuke GD: Presidency, or rename it GD: Stop Saying That About My Obama.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-20-10 10:52 AM   #315 
  - And see, if I were the Skinner of DU,  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #361 
  - I would be 100% for that if BOG was shut down  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:17 AM   #396 
     - personally, if you want to see BOG shut down, why not suggest  Raine1967   Aug-20-10 11:35 AM   #458 
     - Barack Obama is President and there is a GD: Presidency forum  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:44 PM   #759 
     - It seems to be a breeding ground for resentment on both sides. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 12:07 PM   #560 
     - I don't go to the BOG very often, and don't post there, but I don't  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 02:08 PM   #807 
     - A forum that gets like 5 posts a day sure gets under your skin.  CBR   Aug-20-10 12:38 PM   #629 
     - See, there was no reason for you to insult me in such a nasty way  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:46 PM   #761 
        - snark! snark! LOL-- first you call out an entire DU Group, then you object to a mild snark-retort.  Hekate   Aug-20-10 02:07 PM   #804 
        - I didn't call out the BOG, I said it creates resentment  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:48 PM   #876 
        - If that is a nasty insult then I do not know what to tell you.  CBR   Aug-20-10 02:20 PM   #832 
           - Of yes, I have -- a member still one here called me a c**t during the primaries  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:50 PM   #881 
              - You are the biggest spammer on this thread.  CBR   Aug-20-10 05:36 PM   #1143 
                 - 'We all have been called nasty names during our lives.' - arrogant as Gibbs.  Bluebear   Aug-20-10 06:57 PM   #1229 
                 - Hey! Lay off her!  Touchdown   Aug-21-10 09:12 PM   #1683 
                 - Thank you for this fine illusration. n/t  Catherina   Aug-21-10 10:53 PM   #1694 
     - What is meant by "firstly by perception by most of DU"?  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 02:05 PM   #799 
     - It gets under their skin because they know they can't come  SeattleGirl   Aug-20-10 03:42 PM   #975 
        - and this is why you and I no longer speak here  RetroLounge   Aug-20-10 06:15 PM   #1189 
     - Agreed...  Drunken Irishman   Aug-20-10 05:25 PM   #1119 
     - Evict all the BOGtrotters and BOG froggies! We needs to drain the swamp! oh noes!!!11!!!1  Hekate   Aug-20-10 06:28 PM   #1205 
     - Maybe if you and yours hadn't flamed and unrecced  Arkana   Aug-22-10 06:14 PM   #1733 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:15 AM   #388 
  - It's my view that GD is the place where most of the anti-Obama rhetoric takes place  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 11:18 AM   #400 
     - And the flip side of that viewpoint is, it's hard to have a conversation about anything  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 11:34 AM   #456 
     - If you want a "refuge" from criticism- that's what the BOG is for  depakid   Aug-20-10 11:35 AM   #459 
     - That is actually EXACTLY why the BOG was formed  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:50 PM   #772 
     - What you posted actually supports my assertion about GD : P  Gormy Cuss   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #526 
     - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:51 PM   #774 
     - It isn't "anti-Obama rhetoric" -- that's the whole core of the problem  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:48 PM   #766 
     - Are you sure it's specifically personally directed ... or is it just criticism of  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:41 PM   #869 
     - It's totally frustrating. n/t  deacon   Aug-21-10 01:19 AM   #1430 
  - I like being here - since 2001 for me.  dpbrown   Aug-20-10 10:52 AM   #316 
  - For my part, I haven't donated because I can't at this point.  MilesColtrane   Aug-20-10 10:52 AM   #317 
  - From the very beginning of DU --  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 10:52 AM   #319 
  - You are right  EnlightenedOne   Aug-20-10 10:56 AM   #329 
  - How about these Truths -  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 11:24 AM   #419 
     - +1. DAMN right!  Ignis   Aug-20-10 03:38 PM   #966 
     - I wish I could recommend both your posts. +1000 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:16 PM   #1029 
  - But, what if the Truth isn't what you think it is? nt  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:59 AM   #336 
  - Sorry, but when it was Bush in office --  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #358 
  - The truth is the truth and will always be the truth  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:20 AM   #406 
  - See that is the problem--only those who know the "truth" are true dems and oppose Obama  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 11:02 AM   #343 
  - Who opposes Obama?  Hell Hath No Fury   Aug-20-10 11:16 AM   #395 
     - "It's called moral consistancy"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:51 PM   #882 
  - The ''Truth'', and intelligent discussion, is what I miss the most. eom  jannyk   Aug-20-10 02:49 PM   #877 
  - nice.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:05 PM   #1177 
  - + 1,000,000  LWolf   Aug-21-10 04:19 PM   #1633 
  - BE UNDERGROUND and I will DONATE  Aleric   Aug-20-10 10:54 AM   #324 
  - An army of strawmen.  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 10:58 AM   #333 
  - Wrong  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:06 AM   #360 
  - If you're anti-Democrat, you can't expect Democrats to throw  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #438 
     - You misread...  Aleric   Aug-20-10 12:00 PM   #548 
  - I think that you have a very one sided point of view  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 11:16 AM   # 
  - That is very fair  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   # 
  - This is very fair  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #444 
  - The person said he was "anti-Democrat."  geek tragedy   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #448 
     - Well that's your choice then  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 11:40 AM   #476 
  - You're totally spaming this thread.  asdjrocky   Aug-20-10 03:00 PM   #906 
  - actually dems have been moving away from the left since the '72 McGovern landslide.  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 10:59 AM   #337 
  - I stand corrected.  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   #350 
  - Only because GOP/right wing propaganda works .... and they control the airwaves...  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:54 PM   #894 
  - .  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:03 AM   #348 
  - you fiddle while Rome burns.  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:07 AM   #365 
  - no, i'm fiddling while people throw tantrums, there's a difference.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 11:11 AM   #376 
     - Then don't throw a tantrum when we vote Green  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:14 AM   #387 
        - Well at least you admit it.  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 11:16 AM   #392 
           - Unfortunately, third parties and their platforms are more or less a TABOO subject  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 02:56 PM   #898 
           - And that's been the goal all along. They think they smell blood in the water.  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-21-10 07:13 PM   #1669 
  - LOL!  tallahasseedem   Aug-20-10 11:14 AM   #385 
  - This is not to criticize your idea or what you posted. I agree with most of the "professional left"  county worker   Aug-20-10 11:08 AM   #366 
  - Then...  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:12 AM   #380 
  - You are going to do what you are going to do.  county worker   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #436 
  - Well let's examine  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #525 
     - "the group in power has an obligation to create civility"  Desertrose   Aug-20-10 01:59 PM   #786 
  - I won't, certainly.  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 02:12 PM   #813 
  - Except GLBT Americans ARE being "picked on"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:37 AM   #461 
     - I mean being picked on by other DUers  county worker   Aug-20-10 11:47 AM   #499 
        - We are also being pick on by other DUers  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #528 
           - Yes I know, I wish it weren't happening  county worker   Aug-20-10 01:08 PM   #700 
           - Thank you -- I appreciate your civility in this exchange  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:53 PM   #777 
              - Well I was working for the defeat of prop 8 when I got fed up with the  county worker   Aug-20-10 02:49 PM   #880 
           - Yes... found that astonishing on a recent thread...where the anti-gay  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:00 PM   #910 
              - Right, and because it was so civil I bet that post is still there.  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 06:19 PM   #1192 
  - Amen. Just amen! n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:17 PM   #1030 
  - Hey I like it here - same as ever. But I don't send you emails saying so.  Matariki   Aug-20-10 11:02 AM   #345 
  - My 2 cents  revolution breeze   Aug-20-10 11:03 AM   #346 
  - thumbs up. early on i had a regular on du call me a freeper. i learned to LOVE the guy  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 11:09 AM   #373 
     - I also understand  revolution breeze   Aug-20-10 11:16 AM   #393 
        - lol lol  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 11:35 AM   #457 
  - Boy did I misunderstand  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   #349 
  - I will be very interested in seeing the results of your survey  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 11:04 AM   #351 
  - The survey won't be anonymous  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:21 AM   #407 
  - 1. A survey's a good idea.  Smarmie Doofus   Aug-20-10 11:05 AM   #354 
  - I think its more about the economy.  The Hope Mobile   Aug-20-10 11:08 AM   #368 
  - DU  northoftheborder   Aug-20-10 11:09 AM   #372 
  - Thank you, Skinner, for your honesty.  Joe Fields   Aug-20-10 11:12 AM   #378 
  - I can only speak for why I don't donate any more.  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-20-10 11:15 AM   #389 
  - Not looking to make excuses  Blacksheep214   Aug-20-10 11:19 AM   #404 
  - just like the upcoming elections.... I vote with my feet and pocketbook. I will not contribute to  nightrain   Aug-20-10 11:20 AM   #405 
  - Loud and CLEAR  Aleric   Aug-20-10 11:22 AM   #410 
  - "the coddling of the BOGers and the DLC-administrative approach on DU is not healthy"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:26 AM   #424 
  - I think there is name calling on all sides--people who truly believe that Obama isn't doing enough  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 11:29 AM   #434 
  - Me, too-! Either we are all fighting the right wing together...corporate control of government --  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:06 PM   #917 
  - Thank you. Succint. Relevant. Truthful. +1000 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:24 PM   #1036 
  - I'm Not Donating  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 11:22 AM   #409 
  - Its an interesting point you make  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 11:24 AM   #420 
  - Are people not to discuss policy here at du?  boston bean   Aug-20-10 11:29 AM   #433 
     - I don't have the answer  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #446 
  - The current rules don't really favor people like me  whatchamacallit   Aug-20-10 11:25 AM   #422 
  - -1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:27 AM   #427 
  - They are Democrats who view things differently then you do  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 11:27 AM   #429 
  - Exactly  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #443 
  - One one or two issues, sure....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 01:58 PM   #784 
     - Negativity is relative depending on your viewpoint.  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 05:34 PM   #1137 
  - +1000  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:32 AM   #449 
  - I'm glad people are being critical. It is when they are dishonest about things  harun   Aug-20-10 11:50 AM   #511 
  - I understand your frustration but I do see things improving here.  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 11:55 AM   #532 
  - Those are crap allegations to you? Those are issues!  saracat   Aug-20-10 01:17 PM   #717 
  - I think you missed my point....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-20-10 02:01 PM   #793 
     - I am disatisfied with all of those issues but I don't post and leave.  saracat   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #889 
  - Obviously ....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:12 PM   #926 
  - Goodness. Is it possible to be for MORE THAN ONE ISSUE?  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 05:59 PM   #1172 
  - If everyone agreed about policy, we wouldn't have this problem now would we?  neverforget   Aug-21-10 12:52 AM   #1421 
  - You are part of the problem.  Kermitt Gribble   Aug-21-10 12:41 PM   #1586 
  - "and these people are still here"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-23-10 01:18 AM   #1742 
  - Sure they're Democrats.  LWolf   Aug-23-10 03:26 PM   #1750 
  - As someone who wouldn't have made it through the Bush years w/o DU,  Pathwalker   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #412 
  - I haven't donated because I can't.  redwitch   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #414 
  - With all due respect, this is your doing.  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 11:23 AM   #416 
  - bullseye!!! Thank you for your articulation!!!  nightrain   Aug-20-10 11:38 AM   #468 
  - Changing 'General discussion primaries' to 'General discussion presidency'  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 11:39 AM   #473 
  - Agreed n/t  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:42 AM   #479 
  - Agreed  Jamastiene   Aug-21-10 04:36 AM   #1476 
  - Very well said  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 02:25 PM   #845 
  - Agreed!  jannyk   Aug-20-10 02:58 PM   #903 
  - +!1000!  saracat   Aug-20-10 03:09 PM   #925 
  - I agree with every single thing you said except  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:33 PM   #1048 
  - +1 n/t  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 07:51 PM   #1285 
  - Thank you Skinner, for letting us hear your side  Viva_La_Revolution   Aug-20-10 11:26 AM   #423 
  - I would donate but I can't - been out of work for a while  Taverner   Aug-20-10 11:28 AM   #430 
  - Does this site primarily stand in support of the Democratic Party or not?  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #437 
  - Excellent reply. nt  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:37 AM   #463 
  - Thanks for reading, CBR, cheers. nt  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 11:57 AM   #540 
  - You just proved many posters' point -- than you  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:44 AM   #489 
  - Will look forward to you finishing that thought. nt  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #493 
  - Support doesnt have to be blind  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #497 
  - No, it doesn't. I agree. nt  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 11:47 AM   #500 
  - Criticism doesn't have to be malicious.  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 01:01 PM   #679 
     - Nor does it have to be percieved as such  niceypoo   Aug-20-10 02:57 PM   #899 
        - "Support doesnt have to be blind"  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 04:10 PM   #1021 
  - There are also a lot of Democrats here who work on and support, for the most part, the Democratic...  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 01:33 AM   #1438 
  - These are very reasonable positions  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 08:02 AM   #1519 
  - Thank you for that and for your response to my post upthread.  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 09:31 AM   #1548 
  - delete, posted wrong level. eom  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 09:28 AM   #1546 
  - your attitude is exactly why this site is on a decline  fascisthunter   Aug-21-10 11:12 AM   #1573 
  - Is this site a "left-wing" message board, or not? nt  LWolf   Aug-23-10 03:28 PM   #1751 
  - It may be the economy as well n/t  eridani   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #439 
  - Allowing Crist to be advocated on this board is appalling  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:30 AM   #440 
  - Agree --  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:14 PM   #932 
  - That was a sad and revealing decision. Shameful and revolting. n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:35 PM   #1051 
     - It will also be shameful and revolting if Rubio ends up in the Senate.  amandabeech   Aug-21-10 05:57 PM   #1653 
  - The biggest contradiction I see isn't with the posters, it's with the ads on D.U.  Uncle Joe   Aug-20-10 11:31 AM   #447 
  - Thank you Uncle Joe  florida08   Aug-20-10 02:28 PM   #852 
  - what the hell would i do all day with out DU?  madrchsod   Aug-20-10 11:33 AM   #453 
  - Here's my take on it  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-20-10 11:37 AM   #465 
  - "The people committed to principles get banned, while the snark bombers live long and prosper"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:45 AM   #491 
  - wow. i think you should read 472 and 472 should read yours. and i dont go into political threads  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 11:45 AM   #492 
  - I'd like to point out one thing here..  TZ   Aug-20-10 11:48 AM   #504 
  - "Hatefulness and intolerences of different beliefs." and this is everywhere, all issues.....  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 11:57 AM   #537 
  - Good grief, I'm not referring to honest disagreements!  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-20-10 12:04 PM   #554 
  - Here's the part I really don't understand  NorthCarolina   Aug-21-10 10:42 AM   #1565 
  - You make good points. I know that this atmosphere has caused me to stop  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 12:47 PM   #653 
  - That is exactly right. I know I have had many ideas that would have required lots of work, so  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 05:16 PM   #1107 
  - Very well said. Thank you. nt  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 01:47 AM   #1441 
  - I tried  boot@9   Aug-20-10 11:38 AM   #466 
  - I'm sorry. :(  LoZoccolo   Aug-20-10 11:38 AM   #469 
  - Skinner, here is an overview of what's happening:  Aramchek   Aug-20-10 11:39 AM   #472 
  - Now THAT took guts and is exactly what I think. Thanks. nt  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:42 AM   #480 
  - The only thing I would point out  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 11:44 AM   #487 
  - Hold the phone! Some of us who are not willing to blindly follow like sheep  Vinca   Aug-20-10 11:48 AM   #505 
  - "Some of us"? I'd rephrase that to "a lot of us". -nt-  DireStrike   Aug-22-10 09:06 AM   #1716 
  - And this reply, Skinner, is indicative of the main problem on here  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:50 AM   #510 
  - Posters in this thread are members there. nt  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:51 AM   #515 
     - Posters in this thread are also members at FR and CC  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #524 
     - BOGers are accused of being ACTUAL members of the DLC  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:59 AM   #545 
        - I'm neither the goose nor the gander  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #886 
     - they've got 2 or 3 threads on this thread right now. they're celebrating.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #571 
        - yes they sure do  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 12:37 PM   #626 
        - And calling for our banning, dionysus! We're so special to be targeted by those wonderful  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:18 PM   #719 
           - i need to grow a twirling mustache i suppose.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 01:47 PM   #763 
              - You'd be quite dashing, I'm sure.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:49 PM   #769 
                 - perhaps i can take up swashbuckling too!  dionysus   Aug-20-10 01:54 PM   #780 
  - Fabulous!!! Complete agreement. nt  CBR   Aug-20-10 11:50 AM   #512 
  - You Got It, And Actually The Intent Is Not Just To Snuff ObamaThreads, But Destory Him AND DU  Beetwasher   Aug-20-10 11:51 AM   #516 
  - Yes. There are leftist who are CONSPIRING TO DESTROY DU AND OBAMA!!!!  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:10 PM   #1181 
  - I Don't Know If Their Leftists, But I've Read The Posts On Their Site:They Don't Hide Their Hate  Beetwasher   Aug-20-10 09:28 PM   #1345 
  - roflroflrofl  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:45 PM   #1281 
     - That Website Is Not Hidden From Public View, The Intent To Disrupt DU Is Right Out In The Open  Beetwasher   Aug-20-10 09:31 PM   #1348 
  - Your post is a terrific example of the extremes here  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 11:58 AM   #544 
  - I don't hate anybody. They hate Obama. That's why we are at odds.  Aramchek   Aug-20-10 12:09 PM   #566 
  - "They hate Obama". Oh, FFS.  jgraz   Aug-20-10 03:25 PM   #947 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:34 PM   #959 
  - actualy, a lot of them really do. maybe *you* don't, but please don't pretend otherwise.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 03:38 PM   #968 
  - That's simply not true.  jgraz   Aug-20-10 03:51 PM   #985 
     - They say we hate Obama  OnyxCollie   Aug-21-10 10:36 PM   #1693 
  - "they hate Obama" - seriously... this is the type of stooge we gotta deal with on here  Divine Discontent   Aug-21-10 02:31 AM   #1460 
     - you might not hate him, have no doubt, there are plenty who do  Aramchek   Aug-21-10 01:40 PM   #1602 
  - "They hate Obama". OMFG. The only way to salvation is through Barack Obama?  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:43 PM   #1060 
     - the only way to progress, friend. Progress.  Aramchek   Aug-21-10 01:38 PM   #1601 
  - I disagree.  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #567 
     - It was the entire post.  Sea Witch   Aug-20-10 12:14 PM   #578 
        - Of all the replies up to Aramchek's reply, you choose theirs as an example of extremism.  quiet.american   Aug-20-10 12:20 PM   #592 
  - +1000000000000000  dionysus   Aug-20-10 12:09 PM   #563 
  - More to the point... if some freeper trolls wanted to disrupt this site...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #570 
  - you need to stop labeling all complaints against Obama as right wing  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 12:49 PM   #657 
     - You need to stop playing the victim.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 01:04 PM   #687 
        - then your criticism should be honest and labeling liberal criticism as right wing  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 01:10 PM   #706 
           - He's Not Labelling It As Right Wing, Merely Pointing Out That It's Exactly What A RW Troll WOULD DO  Beetwasher   Aug-20-10 01:48 PM   #765 
           - LOL  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-20-10 01:53 PM   #778 
  - What you've done is show how much one-sidedness Skinner is dealing with. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 12:16 PM   #585 
  - who likes and doesn't like Obama is fluid  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 12:52 PM   #661 
  - Thank You!  great white snark   Aug-20-10 12:52 PM   #662 
  - The proverbial elephant in the room.  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 01:06 PM   #695 
  - Thanks for that. I can't count the number of times I've been called  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 02:23 PM   #840 
  - That's one hell of a post. Hail! Hail! the Longviewers  Aramchek   Aug-20-10 02:32 PM   #857 
  - Thanks. That's very nice of you to say.  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #890 
  - I think people are more concerned with your being a member of FR  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:54 PM   #893 
     - Really? I explain that pretty clearly in my profile.  MineralMan   Aug-20-10 03:04 PM   #912 
     - "I was there until 2006, acting as an agent provacateur."  Joey Kidd   Aug-21-10 08:37 AM   #1529 
     - Really? How many of my OPs have you read?  MineralMan   Aug-21-10 08:50 AM   #1532 
     - didn't know about all that  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 09:05 AM   #1538 
     - I am completely unconcerned with his past at FR.  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 08:24 PM   #1312 
  - Utter accusatory, embarrassing, destructive partisan rubbish. -1 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:38 PM   #1055 
  - There are some shady characters here. Some have even posted they want to close the BOG....  Hekate   Aug-20-10 05:36 PM   #1141 
  - Your barking up the wrong tree!..........n/t  POAS   Aug-20-10 06:08 PM   #1180 
  - Are you speaking of the unorganized group on IRC Chat? n/t  seaglass   Aug-20-10 04:53 PM   #1073 
  - You fell for that? Really.....n/t  POAS   Aug-20-10 06:07 PM   #1178 
  - Are you saying all the participants on that thread are liars? n/t  seaglass   Aug-21-10 12:00 PM   #1583 
  - LOL...  CBR   Aug-20-10 06:33 PM   #1210 
  - Now THAT's some paranoia...  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:07 PM   #1179 
  - Skinner, leaders make tough choices.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Aug-20-10 11:40 AM   #477 
  - So your suggestion is for an Obama cheerleading site?  depakid   Aug-20-10 11:45 AM   #490 
  - Unlike you, I can appreciate a greater good.  Nicholas D Wolfwood   Aug-20-10 11:52 AM   #518 
     - Wasn't trying to get personal- though you've certainly answered the question  depakid   Aug-20-10 11:55 AM   #533 
  - This is EXACTLY what I said below  potassiumnitrate   Aug-20-10 12:57 PM   #670 
  - Nicholas, in my case it definitely is the economy.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Aug-21-10 04:19 PM   #1634 
  - each of the "two sides" have legitimate points to make  Motown_Johnny   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #482 
  - One thing we all need to remember is that  jaxx   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   # 
  - I don't think it's DU.  Cleita   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #483 
  - Meaningful and productive discussions are becoming increasingly  alsame   Aug-20-10 11:43 AM   #484 
  - Exactly ... and humorously when the thread continues to make clear the unhappiness  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:19 PM   #939 
  - You explained it in a nutshell. +1000  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:49 PM   #1066 
  - You are correct. If the left gets banned, DU would become a propaganda arm and wither.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:16 PM   #1190 
  - Thank you Skinner, it's the economy  Autumn   Aug-20-10 11:44 AM   #488 
  - Skinner, I support you in whatever decisions you make  Gman   Aug-20-10 11:46 AM   #496 
  - read and just donated.....  spanone   Aug-20-10 11:48 AM   #502 
  - I'd love to donate  guitar man   Aug-20-10 11:48 AM   #503 
  - Is this site pro or con electing Democrats? If you look at GD you wouldn't know.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 11:48 AM   #506 
  - I've been a member here since 2004 and used to post everyday  libnnc   Aug-20-10 11:49 AM   #508 
  - What you just said  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 11:51 AM   #517 
     - Thanks, and in addition...  libnnc   Aug-20-10 12:46 PM   #650 
        - Oh yes, I totally agree with you on that  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:55 PM   #781 
  - I haven't read the entire, rather large, thread,  drm604   Aug-20-10 11:51 AM   #513 
  - "Differences of opinion are what make horse races." Mark Twain  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-20-10 11:52 AM   #519 
  - I'm one of the deadbeats  bigtree   Aug-20-10 11:52 AM   #520 
  - Thanks for posting this, Skinner.  democrank   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #521 
  - I'm in the same boat  raouldukelives   Aug-20-10 12:10 PM   #568 
  - That is the type of thing I keep hearing  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-20-10 12:55 PM   #666 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #523 
  - Ba-bye corki  lamp_shade   Aug-20-10 12:25 PM   #600 
     - Otherwise known as  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:23 PM   #729 
  - Here's my egg money, Skinner:)  blueworld   Aug-20-10 11:53 AM   #527 
  - If you want a suggestion on how to improve things...  SanchoPanza   Aug-20-10 11:56 AM   #534 
  - the rec/unrec system  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 12:15 PM   #580 
  - First, credit where it is due. You concede that there is a problem. Good.  Laelth   Aug-20-10 11:56 AM   #535 
  - Very objective and extremely well put  Aleric   Aug-20-10 12:27 PM   #604 
  - My pleasure. (Laelth bows.) n/t  Laelth   Aug-20-10 12:35 PM   #625 
  - well done Laelth!  jannyk   Aug-20-10 04:29 PM   #1042 
  - Thanks. I hope it does some good. n/t  Laelth   Aug-20-10 05:24 PM   #1116 
  - Excellent post. I wish I could recommend it over and over again  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:55 PM   #1076 
  - You're very kind. Thanks. n/t  Laelth   Aug-20-10 05:25 PM   #1117 
  - Well said. That sums up my view of the issue very well. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 08:08 PM   #1300 
  - I have thought many times of suggesting this to you, but given that I knew I wouldn't get a reply,  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 11:56 AM   #536 
  - Bobbolink, I have long admired M. Scott Peck's Books!  Little Star   Aug-20-10 01:23 PM   #730 
  - The problem here as I see it and most of my friends that used to post here and no longer even come  flyarm   Aug-20-10 11:57 AM   #538 
  - "The bullies are never held accountable"  Ignis   Aug-20-10 03:31 PM   #955 
  - Bullies rule here... especially when they have a "name" and $$$$  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 05:29 PM   #1127 
  - You've identified why I don't hang out here much  etherealtruth   Aug-21-10 10:56 AM   #1569 
  - THAT is why I always liked you! You always say it like it is.  in_cog_ni_to   Aug-24-10 12:06 AM   #1757 
  - "to give the community the ability to police itself and set its own limits" - EXCELLENT idea!  inna   Aug-20-10 12:00 PM   #547 
  - Thank you for this post  Shrek   Aug-20-10 12:03 PM   #553 
  - +10000000 nt  woo me with science   Aug-20-10 01:43 PM   #757 
  - +100,000! n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 04:57 PM   #1079 
  - There are a handful of posters who are dedicated to the DLC line-  asdjrocky   Aug-20-10 12:01 PM   #550 
  - The "new" DU is still important, at least to me  Lemonwurst   Aug-20-10 12:04 PM   #555 
  - Well I wasn't going to give due to the economy  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 12:05 PM   #559 
  - I agree... I don't believe the issue is primarily financial for DU donors...  WheelWalker   Aug-20-10 12:09 PM   #565 
  - Let the people who are pushing for the change fight for it.  boston bean   Aug-20-10 12:18 PM   #587 
  - I can't disagree with any of that. Then, too,  WheelWalker   Aug-20-10 12:33 PM   #621 
     - problem is the discussion doesn't take place around the issue  boston bean   Aug-20-10 12:56 PM   #669 
        - Yes. I, for one, believe that diversity furthers change, while  WheelWalker   Aug-20-10 01:14 PM   #711 
           - I'm not exactly sure how to interpret your last response  boston bean   Aug-21-10 06:05 AM   #1481 
  - Money IS a problem for many  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:56 PM   #1290 
  - I have been unemployed since January. I can't give.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Aug-20-10 12:11 PM   #573 
  - Raffle off some more netbooks and stuff.  Webster Green   Aug-20-10 12:11 PM   #574 
  - I have never had much to give but under my old name and new,  Paper Roses   Aug-20-10 12:14 PM   #577 
  - My star expired ...  Born_A_Truman   Aug-20-10 12:15 PM   #581 
  - Skinner, thank you so much for this site  steve2470   Aug-20-10 12:19 PM   #589 
  - Dialogue between these two factions should be facilitated, not eliminated...  Capitalocracy   Aug-20-10 12:20 PM   #591 
  - A Mob Mentality has developed here. It started in the primaries.  Gidney N Cloyd   Aug-20-10 12:20 PM   #593 
  - God no... that would become the objective  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 02:46 PM   #875 
     - I suppose you're right.  Gidney N Cloyd   Aug-20-10 03:23 PM   #942 
  - "We're not going to reach our goal this fund drive."  Boojatta   Aug-20-10 12:23 PM   #596 
  - !  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 01:27 PM   #736 
  - Just pick a side. Stop being so nice.  potassiumnitrate   Aug-20-10 12:24 PM   #598 
  - On a Social Security budget I have to plan very carefully.  Downwinder   Aug-20-10 12:25 PM   #599 
  - I can't afford it, but I contributed a small amount anyway.  blueworld   Aug-20-10 12:27 PM   #603 
  - Actually, I'm just broke like nobody's business at the moment.  Mugweed   Aug-20-10 12:28 PM   #607 
  - You and me both, my friend.  Capitalocracy   Aug-20-10 12:29 PM   #611 
  - Skinner... I Get Paid Once A Month, On The First...  WillyT   Aug-20-10 12:29 PM   #610 
  - Skinner & Company  Botany   Aug-20-10 12:29 PM   #612 
  - "nobody would have felt like DU was their home, their safe-haven, their community."  mzmolly   Aug-20-10 12:30 PM   #613 
  - Skinner & Company  Botany   Aug-20-10 12:30 PM   #614 
  - Here's my two cents:  polichick   Aug-20-10 12:30 PM   #615 
  - +1.  VMI Dem   Aug-20-10 12:33 PM   #622 
  - You know that you can turn off the ads as a donor, right?  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 12:40 PM   #638 
  - I've never blocked my view of anything or anybody here...  polichick   Aug-20-10 12:43 PM   #643 
     - I guess, but those ads are pretty annoying,  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 01:05 PM   #692 
        - Well, it's interesting that they're here at all...  polichick   Aug-20-10 01:19 PM   #722 
           - Republicans don't place ads here.  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 02:01 PM   #794 
              - It depends on what the purchaser chooses...  polichick   Aug-20-10 02:12 PM   #811 
  - Your comments on membership are worth noting  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 12:44 PM   #646 
  - Thanks! I hope it doesn't get deleted. nt  polichick   Aug-20-10 01:19 PM   #726 
  - I was literally just thinking about you five minutes ago  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:27 PM   #739 
  - Hi LIV :)  polichick   Aug-20-10 01:49 PM   #770 
     - You too!  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:11 PM   #809 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:28 PM   #740 
  - You hit the nail on the head.  asdjrocky   Aug-20-10 02:00 PM   #789 
  - On correction  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 02:12 PM   #812 
  - Thanks - I was thinking it might be longer. Make that 18 months! nt  polichick   Aug-20-10 02:14 PM   #816 
  - +1 n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 05:00 PM   #1083 
  - Just an 800+ post newbie, but I doubt the "war" is the $ problem  DirkGently   Aug-20-10 12:34 PM   #624 
  - a LOT of this trouble started with the introduction of UNREC -- it sows ill-will  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 04:33 PM   #1047 
     - I keep hearing that ...  DirkGently   Aug-20-10 05:33 PM   #1134 
        - you know how people bring beach balls to concerts?  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 06:19 PM   #1193 
           - Wow -- that's a really vivid explanation. And I agree.  DirkGently   Aug-20-10 06:32 PM   #1208 
  - I've seen outspoken liberals banned. I've seen members of a certain minority banned. Yet...  VMI Dem   Aug-20-10 12:37 PM   #628 
  - Skinner You nailed it with the lack of community. There is a lack of "respect"  saracat   Aug-20-10 12:38 PM   #630 
  - If DU is to survive as a community, then community needs to take priority. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 12:47 PM   #654 
  - One simple rule"People before politics" and certainly people before politcians.  saracat   Aug-20-10 01:09 PM   #702 
  - Agree!Did you know there are even websites, w/DU members, whose purpose is to disrupt our community?  SemiCharmedQuark   Aug-20-10 04:57 PM   #1078 
  - +1 It is horrible. They make fun of members' looks  CBR   Aug-20-10 06:36 PM   #1211 
  - If some do, at least they post it publicly as opposed to hiding in a protected  saracat   Aug-21-10 02:21 AM   #1455 
  - Is that supposed to make what they do somehow acceptable?  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 03:09 AM   #1469 
     - As I am sure you are aware, remarks made in a forum that does not censor  saracat   Aug-21-10 03:52 AM   #1473 
        - Why do you keep on saying it *may* have happened when you are very aware it has definately happened?  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 07:15 AM   #1506 
           - What I am saying is two wrongs don't make a right.  saracat   Aug-21-10 01:06 PM   #1592 
              - And what I'm saying is that yr coming across as evasive saying 'may'  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 04:13 PM   #1631 
                 - I wouldn't bet the farm on that but whatever. Each to their own.  saracat   Aug-21-10 05:13 PM   #1643 
                    - I would. Feel free to show me proof to the contrary...  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 06:06 PM   #1656 
                       - Sure, as you say. Whatever.  saracat   Aug-21-10 09:20 PM   #1684 
                          - So, no evidence of what you claim is forthcoming? I'm not surprised...  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 11:32 PM   #1702 
                             - For you Violet.  cornermouse   Aug-22-10 06:09 PM   #1732 
  - Whose purpose is to disrupt the DU Community? That is delusional.  saracat   Aug-21-10 02:28 AM   #1459 
  - You're so right, sara! Lack of respect, lack of empathy, lack of traditional Dem sensitivity.  bobbolink   Aug-20-10 05:46 PM   #1158 
  - Change is OK - can't have what was, must find a new balance  Daemonaquila   Aug-20-10 12:38 PM   #631 
  - a lot of people donated during the incredibly nasty primaries  CreekDog   Aug-20-10 12:38 PM   #632 
  - +1000  saracat   Aug-20-10 01:00 PM   #676 
  - A SHAMELESS ploy....  Raven   Aug-20-10 12:39 PM   #633 
  - I don't worry that it's all changed. It really hasn't for me. I like it just as much as ever.  John Q. Citizen   Aug-20-10 12:39 PM   #635 
  - Although I am an old hand in the progressive internet sphere I am new here...  pgodbold   Aug-20-10 12:40 PM   #639 
  - As a DU Old Timer who has been very close to cutting the cord this past year,  stopbush   Aug-20-10 12:41 PM   #640 
  - What he said.  pgodbold   Aug-20-10 12:45 PM   #648 
  - What he said.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:03 PM   #685 
  - nice post, agree.  SunsetDreams   Aug-20-10 03:57 PM   #997 
  - I think this speaks for many of us here at DU who have become  Blue_Roses   Aug-20-10 05:36 PM   #1142 
  - +10000000  Tarheel_Dem   Aug-21-10 09:38 PM   #1689 
  - ding ding ding  northzax   Aug-22-10 09:10 PM   #1740 
  - i agree DU has changed  southmost   Aug-20-10 12:42 PM   #641 
  - i've turned to pretty much lurking  barbtries   Aug-20-10 12:43 PM   #644 
  - Skinner, might I speculate  polmaven   Aug-20-10 12:43 PM   #645 
  - The disagreements are interesting to me. They help me make  Norrin Radd   Aug-20-10 12:45 PM   #647 
  - +1  John Q. Citizen   Aug-20-10 12:48 PM   #656 
  - My two cents worth  Wanet   Aug-20-10 12:46 PM   #651 
  - While the Rift between members is an obvious reason...  fascisthunter   Aug-20-10 12:48 PM   #655 
  - Skinner, it's mostly the economy, not ...  mntleo2   Aug-20-10 12:53 PM   #664 
  - I like conservative Dems, liberal Dems and moderate Dems--  Kingofalldems   Aug-20-10 12:57 PM   #672 
  - As long as he is helping pay the bills. I have no problem with  Downwinder   Aug-20-10 01:03 PM   #683 
  - Poster a non donater  Kingofalldems   Aug-20-10 01:21 PM   #728 
  - You can't worry too much about other people.  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 01:07 PM   #696 
  - Skinner, I do not see that it is your fault that  asjr   Aug-20-10 12:58 PM   #673 
  - I love the D.U. now.  Howler   Aug-20-10 12:59 PM   #675 
  - Off topic spam here, but...  MilesColtrane   Aug-20-10 01:03 PM   #684 
  - Lots of posts  freebrew   Aug-20-10 01:04 PM   #688 
  - I think something really needs to be done about the negativity.  backscatter712   Aug-20-10 01:05 PM   #689 
  - No non troll says Obama is as bad as Bush -- ever  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:33 PM   #744 
  - How about the 3:1 rule?  azul   Aug-21-10 01:13 AM   #1428 
  - My two cents  dalaigh lllama   Aug-20-10 01:05 PM   #690 
  - Thanks for creating and babysitting this community.  Stoic   Aug-20-10 01:07 PM   #699 
  - David, I've never seen anything like the last couple of years in my LIFE.  Amerigo Vespucci   Aug-20-10 01:09 PM   #704 
  - Skinner, I'd also recommend sprucing up the admin tools - make it easier to track and ban disrupters  backscatter712   Aug-20-10 01:10 PM   #705 
  - traffic is way down, too; progressives feel driven off by draconian censorship that leaves  amborin   Aug-20-10 01:10 PM   #707 
  - Far too many really good people TSed BECAUSE  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 01:14 PM   #712 
  - And that started in 2005  XanaDUer   Aug-20-10 02:40 PM   #868 
  - It started long before that. But it started happening wholesale  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 02:51 PM   #884 
     - Yes. That was the point of no return, for me.  XanaDUer   Aug-20-10 05:12 PM   #1100 
  - Unfortunately, this is my take as well  LaurenG   Aug-20-10 03:00 PM   #907 
     - Would it do the least bit of good?  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 03:29 PM   #952 
  - there isn't any censorship here. jesus christ. talk about hyperbole  dionysus   Aug-20-10 01:25 PM   #733 
  - You are correct.  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 01:58 PM   #785 
  - i hardly think it's onesided at all.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 02:02 PM   #795 
     - Of course you don't.  OnyxCollie   Aug-20-10 02:05 PM   #802 
  - You need to look up the word then. You obviously don't understand it's meaning.  Lorien   Aug-20-10 07:38 PM   #1278 
  - Nice post  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:35 PM   #749 
  - +1 for "principle and policy over party or personality"  Ignis   Aug-20-10 03:40 PM   #974 
  - well said  fascisthunter   Aug-20-10 04:48 PM   #1065 
  - +1 "enforce the rules fairly for all posters; or create a large sub-forum that is unmoderated" n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 05:05 PM   #1091 
  - Principle and policy over party or personality  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 08:40 PM   #1319 
  - Couple of comments  notesdev   Aug-20-10 01:14 PM   #713 
  - By now they'll be crowing about this on that other site.  Orsino   Aug-20-10 01:15 PM   #714 
  - here's a little sampling:  Aramchek   Aug-20-10 02:10 PM   #808 
     - yeah but, they have what... a few dozen bitter souls at most?  dionysus   Aug-20-10 02:39 PM   #867 
        - (sigh) You seem to be the bitter one. People have the RIGHT to GO anyfuckingwhere they please on the  DainBramaged   Aug-20-10 05:41 PM   #1150 
           - people are free to do whatever they want of course, but to me, if you use one board specifically  dionysus   Aug-20-10 06:45 PM   #1217 
              - I don't see it that way, and that's pretty close to libel to me.  DainBramaged   Aug-20-10 07:16 PM   #1246 
                 - it's true, but hey.. peace and good luck.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 07:20 PM   #1250 
  - DU mods must learn to recognize the patterns of cyber-stalker behavior.  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 01:16 PM   #715 
  - +100  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 01:19 PM   #724 
  - It's easy to dismiss individual acts of behavior  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 01:30 PM   #742 
     - Well the problem comes down  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 01:42 PM   #755 
        - Training is a very good idea.  Radical Activist   Aug-20-10 02:05 PM   #801 
           - And that is easy to find on the web  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 02:13 PM   #814 
  - I call it the "OPERATIONMINDCRIME Syndrome"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 01:36 PM   #750 
  - +1000000  Barack2theFuture   Aug-21-10 01:15 PM   #1594 
  - This is extremely hard for me to write, but I think you are spitting in the wind.  ScreamingMeemie   Aug-20-10 01:19 PM   #723 
  - Wanted you to know someone read this and remembered.  Duncan Grant   Aug-21-10 01:55 AM   #1445 
  - Hey...it's good to see a friendly name.  ScreamingMeemie   Aug-21-10 04:26 PM   #1637 
  - I remember you.  LWolf   Aug-23-10 03:41 PM   #1752 
  - I'm relatively new around here  EmeraldCityGrl   Aug-20-10 01:24 PM   #731 
  - Some of us sit home  Enthusiast   Aug-20-10 01:24 PM   #732 
  - Decision time: Do you want this to be DEMOCRATIC Underground or Free Republic Lite?  Political Tiger   Aug-20-10 01:26 PM   #735 
  - Hear hear!!!! + 1000.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 01:46 PM   #762 
  - wow. That nails it all. This is not Repuglican Underground.  Whisp   Aug-20-10 01:52 PM   #775 
  - What misplaced energy  Kolesar   Aug-20-10 01:59 PM   #788 
  - This is a good example of what's wrong with DU.  Political Tiger   Aug-20-10 02:17 PM   #826 
     - DESTROY THEM ALL WITH FIRE!!! BURN!!!  YOY   Aug-20-10 02:42 PM   #872 
  - You are awesome!!  azmouse   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   #822 
  - self-delete  Mithreal   Aug-20-10 02:18 PM   #829 
  - Amen to that.  lamp_shade   Aug-20-10 02:20 PM   #831 
  - A disrupter is not "someone who disagrees with you". n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 02:49 PM   #878 
  - Unfortunately, that's not entirely true under the new rules  jgraz   Aug-20-10 02:53 PM   #891 
     - This focus on Barack Obama is a set up for crashing and burning, imo.  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 03:09 PM   #923 
        - Most of DU's major conflicts are caused by personality-focused posters  jgraz   Aug-20-10 03:18 PM   #937 
           - I hadn't thought about it that way but it's probably true.  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 03:24 PM   #945 
           - Excellent point. Identifying with a politician over principle or stance is terrifying.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:24 PM   #1201 
  - Well said.  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 02:59 PM   #905 
  - Partisan nonsense. Skinner would gain more paying attention to the disatisfaction  Catherina   Aug-20-10 05:18 PM   #1109 
  - Wow -- I love you  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:51 PM   #1284 
  - THANK YOU for the  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 09:01 PM   #1330 
  - Excellent post  MissDeeds   Aug-21-10 06:11 PM   #1658 
  - +10000  Dappleganger   Aug-21-10 11:10 PM   #1698 
  - I agree: right-wing Obama supporters who apologize for anti-union policy, DOMA,  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:27 PM   #1202 
  - I know I say this all of the time, but it's true  Number23   Aug-20-10 08:52 PM   #1325 
  - The funny thing about that  LWolf   Aug-23-10 03:43 PM   #1753 
  - Skinner, your thread has turned into one big whinefest!  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 01:34 PM   #748 
  - Think of it as a whine for a whine.  ScreamingMeemie   Aug-20-10 01:37 PM   #751 
  - Skinner--regarding unrec button  WI_DEM   Aug-20-10 03:05 PM   #913 
  - Oh . . really . . . ? Is that why the UN-REC was put in place ... ????  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:24 PM   #946 
     - Yes, that's what I was told  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:36 PM   #964 
        - Please see my comments on the results here . . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 06:24 PM   #1200 
  - Civil like not invalidating the concerns of others?  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 03:13 PM   #931 
     - I notice you dropped an adjective I had there  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 03:39 PM   #971 
  - I actually still largely love DU but am a bit broke too sadly. nt  unpossibles   Aug-20-10 01:40 PM   #753 
  - 'UnRec' is a morale breaker with no clear purpose.  FiveGoodMen   Aug-20-10 01:44 PM   #758 
  - Actually, it is a big help (but for an unstated purpose)  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 01:54 PM   #779 
  - But, it doesn't exclude or prevent the the other methods either.  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 02:42 PM   #873 
  - agreed  Liberal_in_LA   Aug-20-10 02:27 PM   #851 
  - quod erat demonstrandum  Aleric   Aug-20-10 01:50 PM   #773 
  - Exactly...just exactly how does one respond to a LOCKED post?  Desertrose   Aug-20-10 01:53 PM   #776 
  - It underscores the point that reading this forum's rules is a good idea. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 03:17 PM   #935 
  - Making it about sides is going to be a problem, unless...  flvegan   Aug-20-10 01:58 PM   #783 
  - Except, check this out, fly,  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   #823 
  - Great critique. You are on to something.n/t  EmeraldCityGrl   Aug-20-10 02:22 PM   #836 
  - I could get behind this approach, too.  Ignis   Aug-20-10 05:46 PM   #1159 
  - After years of prolific posting, I more or less became a lurker...  DeepModem Mom   Aug-20-10 02:08 PM   #806 
  - Skinner if you were lucky enough to meet the President  NJmaverick   Aug-20-10 02:15 PM   #821 
  - Good question! n/t  Political Tiger   Aug-20-10 02:19 PM   #830 
  - What does this have to do with the problems here?  Desertrose   Aug-20-10 02:24 PM   #841 
  - ... (tacking this to see if you get a response).  lamp_shade   Aug-20-10 02:24 PM   #842 
  - Because that's what it's all about... a fan site for royalty  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 02:30 PM   #854 
  - I would think Skinner would have proudly shown George Bush his site  NJmaverick   Aug-20-10 03:13 PM   #930 
     - You speaking for Skinner now? LOL!  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-20-10 03:46 PM   #981 
  - That's our Mav!!! :Happy sitcom ending:  YOY   Aug-20-10 03:53 PM   #995 
  - Wow, that's creepy, authoritarian, and totally obsequious. And more than a little weird.  readmoreoften   Aug-20-10 06:29 PM   #1207 
     - over the top much?  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 07:36 PM   #1273 
     - You got that right  NJmaverick   Aug-21-10 10:10 AM   #1559 
     - Par for the course, lo these many years.  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:53 PM   #1287 
     - Wow  NJmaverick   Aug-21-10 10:08 AM   #1558 
  - I just checked and traffic is not down relative to other democratic sites  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 02:21 PM   #834 
  - The vertical scale on that chart  Kolesar   Aug-20-10 02:31 PM   #856 
     - It's traffic rank, so the lower the number the better.  Renew Deal   Aug-20-10 03:09 PM   #924 
  - This is what I love about DU...  YvonneCa   Aug-20-10 02:22 PM   #837 
  - Sorry, but its the economy for me.  FloriTexan   Aug-20-10 02:25 PM   #844 
  - Many journals that post daily are anti-Obama, but often have a prominent spot on the front page.  Diane R   Aug-20-10 02:25 PM   #846 
  - That people have divided DU into pro or anti - Obama  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 02:57 PM   #901 
  - Perfect example. Those who criticize Obama are said to be anti-Obama.  saracat   Aug-20-10 03:13 PM   #929 
     - Well said. Hard to belive that this simple truth escapes so many. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 09:07 PM   #1332 
  - Just mho, you should get rid of the rec/unrec gizmo.  Rex   Aug-20-10 02:26 PM   #847 
  - Money is tight.  YOY   Aug-20-10 02:28 PM   #853 
  - I donate annually at the Valentine-Hearts drive  Kolesar   Aug-20-10 02:33 PM   #859 
  - Main problem at DU isn't disagreements - it is too convoluted with the same posts over and over.  cbdo2007   Aug-20-10 02:56 PM   #896 
  - moderators use to be really good locking repeating threads. i think that made du'ers better at not  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:05 PM   #1012 
     - Here's what they should do....  cbdo2007   Aug-20-10 04:39 PM   #1056 
  - If you read the entire thread to this point,  Rosie1223   Aug-20-10 02:57 PM   #900 
  - Love to see that but doubt you will.  Jax   Aug-20-10 03:00 PM   #908 
  - Nah mate..got bugger all to do with the "rifts" and more to do with the lack of spondoolies...  truebrit71   Aug-20-10 02:59 PM   #904 
  - There are also more places on the internet for lefties to go...  Deep13   Aug-20-10 03:05 PM   #915 
  - Only 600?  BlueIris   Aug-20-10 03:07 PM   #920 
  - Donation is in the mail  emsimon33   Aug-20-10 03:16 PM   #933 
  - The title of your OP reminds me of a time when my Dad caught me with pot  TK421   Aug-20-10 03:20 PM   #941 
  - Thanks Skinner ..  butterfly77   Aug-20-10 03:27 PM   #948 
  - Honestly, I've seen fighting and nastiness as long as I've been here...  InvisibleTouch   Aug-20-10 03:28 PM   #951 
  - Most posters to this board are Democrats and they get bashed daily. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-20-10 03:35 PM   #962 
  - o one says Obama is the same as Bush  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 03:43 PM   #978 
  - Yes, they do. I've seen those posts and have alerted on them.  SeattleGirl   Aug-20-10 04:06 PM   #1014 
  - people were horrible to kerry, lol. nt  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:29 PM   #1041 
  - Why I can't give anymore  Yuugal   Aug-20-10 03:31 PM   #954 
  - if that "swearing fealty to "The One" " bullshit hurts you so much, stay at the tree then.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 03:36 PM   #963 
  - Speaking of bullet-proof.... n/t  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 03:52 PM   #990 
     - Yeah, yeah, yeah. We knew who you all were talking about way up thread.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 04:07 PM   #1017 
        - I have all of 50 posts at OET, many of them defending the moderators here.  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 04:55 PM   #1075 
           - Now I have surely been cut to the quick. Medic!!!!  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 05:34 PM   #1136 
              - shall i fluff a pillow for the fainting couch and fetch the smelling salts?  dionysus   Aug-20-10 07:22 PM   #1254 
                 - Yes please. *sniff*  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 07:31 PM   #1265 
                    - i'll have him bring a luncheon plate and some gray poupon as well.  dionysus   Aug-20-10 09:13 PM   #1336 
  - If you hate the Mods, hate the Admin, hate the boggers, yet the tree spams all day every day  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 03:48 PM   #984 
  - when i was a younger man, Wadsworth warned me about these types, with their  dionysus   Aug-20-10 04:03 PM   #1008 
     - It is rather sad.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 04:27 PM   #1038 
     - maybe i should send them copies of my Grateful Dead records...  dionysus   Aug-20-10 04:31 PM   #1045 
     - If it's so pathetic, why do you go out of your ways to skirt DU rules and make  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 04:59 PM   #1080 
        - There's a reason the other site isn't supposed to be mentioned here.....  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 05:13 PM   #1103 
        - A whole lot of words that didn't address anything that I said. n/t  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 05:31 PM   #1129 
        - Let me just say, you have the perfect icon. eom  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 09:12 PM   #1335 
        - "Why are you and others so insistent on constantly breaking this rule?"  Ignis   Aug-20-10 06:05 PM   #1176 
           - Yep. You'd think we'd have learned after OMC was allowed to vomit all over the board for years.  superduperfarleft   Aug-20-10 08:22 PM   #1311 
  - your been asked to swear fealty to "the One" ?  Sheepshank   Aug-20-10 06:28 PM   #1206 
  - Excellent points. You spoke for me too. And I'm really upset to learn Daveparts is gone. +10000 n/t  Catherina   Aug-21-10 01:21 AM   #1431 
  - Well, I've been here from nearly the beginning  prolesunited   Aug-20-10 03:34 PM   #958 
  - I think there are a variety of views here at DU.....  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 03:37 PM   #965 
  - at least you have whole threads dedicated to you... i only get called names in passing....  dionysus   Aug-20-10 03:53 PM   #996 
  - I'm not sure what it takes........  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 03:57 PM   #998 
     - oh yes, you got it!  dionysus   Aug-20-10 04:01 PM   #1003 
  - Good post Frenchie. nt  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 04:03 PM   #1007 
  - Excellent post, Frenchie.  Bobbie Jo   Aug-20-10 04:26 PM   #1037 
  - I am a proud member of other sites and do not know of any that have used  saracat   Aug-20-10 04:32 PM   #1046 
  - That's good that you moderate the other site.  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 05:00 PM   #1084 
     - The site moderators are not entitled to read PM's.That is a violation of privacy and the fact  saracat   Aug-20-10 06:58 PM   #1231 
     - Nobody is even talking about what you are implying......  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 07:59 PM   #1292 
     - Baloney.And I do find it hilarious that of all people you would be the one  saracat   Aug-20-10 08:02 PM   #1296 
        - What's even more hilarious  Bobbie Jo   Aug-21-10 02:44 PM   #1614 
     - that is a perfect word to describe some of the wretched ignorance around here - vulgar. Thank you!  Divine Discontent   Aug-21-10 06:36 PM   #1664 
     - And I find it difficult to believe that anyone who has ever claimed to be a Democrat or supports  suzie   Aug-22-10 07:33 PM   #1736 
     - So you can, or know someone who can, read PMs?  Stinky The Clown   Aug-20-10 08:03 PM   #1297 
        - Thinking caps are in order on this.  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 11:50 PM   #1401 
  - Don't you dare stay away Frenchie!!!!  msanthrope   Aug-20-10 05:42 PM   #1151 
  - Good post FrenchieCat  rosesaylavee   Aug-21-10 12:28 AM   #1415 
  - "for me, it is that negative outright contempt that I consider to be over the top, very destructive"  Gormy Cuss   Aug-21-10 09:10 AM   #1540 
  - that's some dramatic high-charge storylines you got goin' there!  Divine Discontent   Aug-21-10 06:33 PM   #1662 
  - You are to be admired, Frenchie, that you've continued to post here despite the  suzie   Aug-22-10 07:45 PM   #1738 
  - Question for Skinner re Factions  Taylor Mason Powell   Aug-20-10 03:40 PM   #973 
  - i love this. nt  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:33 PM   #1049 
  - lol  unapatriciated   Aug-21-10 05:26 PM   #1647 
  - Dear Skinner ....  defendandprotect   Aug-20-10 03:43 PM   #977 
  - You will probably miss this because it is approaching 1000 posts  zeemike   Aug-20-10 03:48 PM   #983 
  - Keep the money you were going to give to help pay for your medical bills.  ScreamingMeemie   Aug-20-10 04:00 PM   #1002 
     - That is a very generous offer  zeemike   Aug-20-10 04:06 PM   #1016 
        - Too late here too...but you were worth it, even if it is double.  ScreamingMeemie   Aug-20-10 04:08 PM   #1018 
           - Thank you...  zeemike   Aug-20-10 04:12 PM   #1023 
  - When you figure out how to not allow the OMCs to rule the roost..  BellaLuna   Aug-20-10 03:51 PM   #986 
  - Most of my dearest friends seem to have abandoned DU  crim son   Aug-20-10 03:52 PM   #989 
  - You're not an outsider,  Call Me Wesley   Aug-20-10 04:30 PM   #1044 
  - Hey Crim son!  ThomCat   Aug-20-10 05:50 PM   #1165 
  - Hey! we gotta talk again soon...how you been?  TK421   Aug-20-10 06:22 PM   #1195 
  - Thank you, Skinner, and the mods  SusanaMontana41   Aug-20-10 03:52 PM   #991 
  - stop censoring 9/11 topics to the dungeon  smiley   Aug-20-10 03:53 PM   #993 
  - Do not stop sending 9/11 posts to the dungeon  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 04:51 PM   #1069 
  - Skinner, I have issues with some aspects of DU but also the economy sucks  uppityperson   Aug-20-10 04:03 PM   #1006 
  - It's bad  SoxFan   Aug-20-10 04:03 PM   #1009 
  - I love DU  blogslut   Aug-20-10 04:10 PM   #1022 
  - I can think of fifty people who were important members of this community who have been told  truedelphi   Aug-20-10 04:14 PM   #1025 
  - .  Greyhound   Aug-20-10 05:13 PM   #1102 
  - That many?  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 07:10 PM   #1241 
  - ...  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 07:56 PM   #1289 
  - 1353rd  Scurrilous   Aug-20-10 09:37 PM   #1353 
  - damn people don't like du. something is wrong. n/t.  okieinpain   Aug-20-10 04:16 PM   # 
  - I'll take this one, two, three...  JuniperLea   Aug-20-10 04:16 PM   #1028 
  - your number one is right on with my number one.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:42 PM   #1058 
  - When there are no raises, and prices skyrocket...  JuniperLea   Aug-20-10 06:20 PM   #1194 
  - +1  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 04:43 PM   #1059 
  - I'm not even American, but I still do believe in DU and it's purpose.  Call Me Wesley   Aug-20-10 04:20 PM   #1032 
  - here's my idea -- license the software -- use "Emma" email marketing as your model.  nashville_brook   Aug-20-10 04:20 PM   #1033 
  - It's because of the lack of sex threads  Sky Masterson   Aug-20-10 04:28 PM   #1039 
  - throwing hands up in air  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:45 PM   #1061 
     - Bunch of prudes here these days :P  Sky Masterson   Aug-20-10 04:52 PM   #1071 
        - you first sky  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:00 PM   #1085 
           - This may not be the smartest thread to do that in :P  Sky Masterson   Aug-20-10 05:04 PM   #1087 
              - chicken. bawk, bawk, bawk....  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:31 PM   #1130 
                 - I resemble that remark  Sky Masterson   Aug-20-10 05:34 PM   #1135 
  - Problem is--the Conservative posters are just as guilty, and not ONE of them has been TSed,  Romulox   Aug-20-10 04:38 PM   #1054 
  - tons of rw'ers have been deleted.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 04:47 PM   #1063 
     - Those are the same person, you know  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 08:00 PM   #1295 
        - i dont know lost.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 09:31 PM   #1349 
           - Except I'm not in a particular "camp" on the "Obama issue"  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 09:46 PM   #1357 
              - thumbs up, i got it.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 10:13 PM   #1365 
                 - I miss them, too, believe me  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:09 AM   #1484 
  - Got paid today. Donated today. Feel better...  kickysnana   Aug-20-10 04:49 PM   #1067 
  - Your honesty is engaging.  grantcart   Aug-20-10 05:07 PM   #1094 
  - This is a real problem, and needs to be looked at.  Ikonoklast   Aug-20-10 05:48 PM   #1160 
  - just donated, wasn't going to but your post impressed me  loveandlight   Aug-20-10 05:09 PM   #1095 
  - The term "let's talk" always gives me the willies. I donated.  leveymg   Aug-20-10 05:12 PM   #1101 
  - you're a guy aren't you, geeesh.  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:36 PM   #1140 
     - It works every time with me.  leveymg   Aug-20-10 05:45 PM   #1156 
        - oh, just lmao. lol  seabeyond   Aug-20-10 05:49 PM   #1162 
           - Thank you for the same.  leveymg   Aug-20-10 05:56 PM   #1171 
  - Unfortunatly, the underlined portion perfectly encapsulates the problem.  SarahB   Aug-20-10 05:18 PM   #1108 
  - Very, very interesting and good post  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 08:04 PM   #1298 
  - Very good point about the dichotomy. A striking way to  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-10 02:02 AM   #1450 
  - Just donated  struggle4progress   Aug-20-10 05:21 PM   #1112 
  - My opinion  Time for change   Aug-20-10 05:26 PM   #1120 
  - Be true to your old base Skinner and your problems will disappear. n/t  Catherina   Aug-20-10 05:27 PM   #1121 
  - Good! That would mean me too!  FrenchieCat   Aug-20-10 06:03 PM   #1175 
  - Interesting interpretation  Catherina   Aug-21-10 01:53 AM   #1444 
  - Hmmmmm  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 08:07 PM   #1299 
  - This place is dominated by those who express the viewpoint that the country and world are f'ked..  DCBob   Aug-20-10 05:32 PM   #1131 
  - I'm not sure..  sendero   Aug-20-10 05:34 PM   #1138 
  - Skinner - you will make it  Monique1   Aug-20-10 05:39 PM   #1146 
  - The worst economy since the "Great Depression"  JJ   Aug-20-10 05:41 PM   #1149 
  - Policy not Party, please  dreamnightwind   Aug-20-10 05:44 PM   #1155 
  - +1000 n/t  NorthCarolina   Aug-20-10 09:20 PM   #1339 
  - Thanks for clearing the air  DainBramaged   Aug-20-10 05:50 PM   #1164 
  - You made it open to everybody, even those who clearly do not support Democrats,  tabasco   Aug-20-10 06:11 PM   #1184 
  - Democrats have become reviled groundhogs.  tabasco   Aug-20-10 06:14 PM   #1187 
  - True. Democrats are reviled woodchucks on a site called DU.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 06:32 PM   #1209 
     - That mocking thread... how they were making fun of those who  Whisp   Aug-20-10 06:43 PM   #1216 
     - Some are "reviled" as woodchucks on DU because of their fallacious logic  Hissyspit   Aug-20-10 07:05 PM   #1235 
        - Oh, but we aren't supposed to have any logic whatsoever. We aren't supposed to be practical at all.  DevonRex   Aug-20-10 07:09 PM   #1240 
           - I didn't try to ostracize and belittle anyone.  Hissyspit   Aug-20-10 07:27 PM   #1258 
  - I don't feel that bad about the infighting. We've always had some of that. I'm  NC_Nurse   Aug-20-10 06:23 PM   #1196 
  - I think the problem is the economy, Skinner, not DU.  Liberty Belle   Aug-20-10 06:28 PM   #1204 
  - Democratic "Underground", That's What I Thought.  theFrankFactor   Aug-20-10 06:38 PM   #1213 
  - Democratic "Underground", That's What I Thought.  theFrankFactor   Aug-20-10 06:39 PM   #1214 
  - I donated because of this email, but had to think about it  LisaM   Aug-20-10 06:43 PM   #1215 
  - o please not that Michigan shit again.  Whisp   Aug-20-10 06:47 PM   #1218 
  - Why not, because you think it is not important?  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 06:56 PM   #1227 
  - Yes, it is important. Not in the way you mean tho.  Whisp   Aug-20-10 06:59 PM   #1232 
     - Most folks have let go of the primaries  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 07:06 PM   #1237 
  - I'm sorry. I thought we could speak about things that bothered us in this thread.  LisaM   Aug-20-10 07:08 PM   #1238 
  - (you forgot teh gays)  LostinVA   Aug-20-10 08:09 PM   #1301 
  - The bad economy is what keeps people from donating PLUS....  Mimosa   Aug-20-10 06:50 PM   #1221 
  - I think this place used to have character.  Usrename   Aug-20-10 06:53 PM   #1222 
  - Well, at least your lounge mods managed to end my daily poem thread  RetroLounge   Aug-20-10 06:55 PM   #1226 
  - K & R  pmorlan1   Aug-20-10 07:01 PM   #1233 
  - Just a short note to you, Skinner  Samantha   Aug-20-10 07:17 PM   #1249 
  - I'm feeling ya'  pipoman   Aug-20-10 07:21 PM   #1252 
  - Skinner before you decide on radical surgery  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-20-10 07:21 PM   #1253 
  - David, for all practical purposes I have been unemployed for almost 2 years  sellitman   Aug-20-10 07:24 PM   #1256 
  - I've been gone for a while, Is the Unrec feature working out well?  Kurovski   Aug-20-10 07:44 PM   #1280 
  - Creativity comes from the tension of the opposites. Your inner tension is useful and inevitable.  lostnfound   Aug-20-10 07:52 PM   #1286 
  - Lassie, Come Home!  Seneca   Aug-20-10 07:59 PM   #1293 
  - Hum...  Joey Kidd   Aug-21-10 04:30 AM   #1475 
     - It's a vanity piece  Seneca   Aug-21-10 08:49 AM   #1531 
        - delete  Shining Jack   Aug-21-10 01:02 PM   #1591 
  - I hope all of us eventually come to a solution...together.  Danger Mouse   Aug-20-10 08:16 PM   #1303 
  - David, it might be interesting for DU's admins to hold  saltpoint   Aug-20-10 08:21 PM   #1307 
  - Sorry  Caretha   Aug-20-10 08:21 PM   #1308 
  - Does it help if I say.."I love you all like family?"  w8liftinglady   Aug-20-10 08:21 PM   #1309 
  - nice post, Skinner - thanks  UpInArms   Aug-20-10 08:35 PM   #1317 
  - Somethings gotta give....maybe if  Safetykitten   Aug-20-10 08:40 PM   #1320 
  - Don't look now...  Frisbee   Aug-20-10 08:49 PM   #1323 
  - Ok, let's talk. Quite honestly I haven't seen much talking from you at all.  Shell Beau   Aug-20-10 08:56 PM   #1327 
  - "Many here in this very thread have asked about the GLBT purge."  Joey Kidd   Aug-20-10 10:08 PM   #1364 
  - Long Live the BOG!  Number23   Aug-20-10 09:10 PM   #1333 
  - "I won't be donating until something is done about the constant maligning of this President."  Safetykitten   Aug-20-10 09:22 PM   #1341 
  - I don't subscribe to the view that every gay person is unhappy with this admin  Number23   Aug-20-10 09:38 PM   #1354 
     - Well a lot of people don't subscribe to the view of having to keep  Shell Beau   Aug-21-10 12:12 AM   #1410 
        - I don't recall anyone suggesting otherwise.  Number23   Aug-21-10 01:00 AM   #1425 
           - Of course they do, all the time  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:10 AM   #1485 
  - Long Live the BOG!  Scurrilous   Aug-20-10 09:58 PM   #1358 
  - +100  SoxFan   Aug-20-10 10:02 PM   #1361 
  - Hear, hear!  Hekate   Aug-21-10 05:51 PM   #1651 
  - But but but  grantcart   Aug-23-10 01:01 AM   #1741 
  - I can not donate now that business hours have returned.  DisgustedTX   Aug-20-10 09:16 PM   #1337 
  - It's economic for me, Skinner.  Withywindle   Aug-20-10 09:20 PM   #1340 
  - best thread I've read in a very long time  G_j   Aug-20-10 09:25 PM   #1342 
  - I think its a pretty horrible thread  BootinUp   Aug-20-10 10:15 PM   #1368 
     - It is also a forum that is kept going by the money from the members.  Shell Beau   Aug-20-10 10:48 PM   #1376 
     - your opinion of course, admittedly, I skipped through it  G_j   Aug-20-10 11:03 PM   #1382 
     - Have you considered trying out for the Olympic Not Getting It team?  jgraz   Aug-20-10 11:27 PM   #1391 
     - Or refuse to even respond to legit "customer" complaints  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:12 AM   #1487 
     - The thread is exactly what Skinner asked for  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:11 AM   #1486 
  - I wish I could donate but just can't afford it.  XOKCowboy   Aug-20-10 09:26 PM   #1343 
  - Thanks for the donor star! There are some great people here..  XOKCowboy   Aug-21-10 12:01 AM   #1406 
  - The only radical change needed is to stop taking ourselves so seriously.  Toucano   Aug-20-10 09:36 PM   #1351 
  - There are a couple of things you aren't doing this fundraiser...  rosesaylavee   Aug-20-10 09:44 PM   #1355 
  - Hey Skinner!  Chipper Chat   Aug-20-10 10:01 PM   #1360 
  - I'm just waiting to punch Angle in the mug ! n/t  Grassy Knoll   Aug-20-10 10:04 PM   #1363 
  - thanks skinner  bdamomma   Aug-20-10 10:14 PM   #1367 
  - Close but... not exactly right  Ohio Joe   Aug-20-10 11:04 PM   #1384 
  - I stopped donating to DU a fair while ago...  Violet_Crumble   Aug-20-10 11:42 PM   #1395 
  - The LGBT DUers and allies did not deserve to be Purged  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:18 AM   #1488 
     - So yr claiming all of them were completely innocent and didn't break any rules?  Violet_Crumble   Aug-21-10 07:07 AM   #1503 
  - Never had money to donate, but still think the Viper Pit forum idea has merit here.  NuttyFluffers   Aug-20-10 11:49 PM   #1399 
  - K&R. Too late to read this all tonight. Marking for tomorrow.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-20-10 11:54 PM   #1403 
  - My wife says I can't donate now.  Kaleva   Aug-20-10 11:56 PM   #1405 
  - My two cents...Now is a bad time to think of anything but beating  Hubert Flottz   Aug-21-10 12:04 AM   #1407 
  - I hope this isn't a reflection of how we'll handle the November election  NBachers   Aug-21-10 12:05 AM   #1408 
  - best wishes Skinner!  shugah   Aug-21-10 12:07 AM   #1409 
  - If you feel obligated to continue to censor people and..  Change has come   Aug-21-10 12:26 AM   #1413 
  - how to respond?  shireen   Aug-21-10 12:27 AM   #1414 
  - Thank you, thank you, thank you for the kitty pics!!!!  Janice325   Aug-21-10 02:16 AM   #1452 
     - well ... *somebody* had to stand up and say it!  shireen   Aug-21-10 02:25 AM   #1457 
  - Oh Ye, of little Faith...  madmax   Aug-21-10 12:29 AM   #1416 
  - The divide here is between authoritarians and anti-authoritarians.  TransitJohn   Aug-21-10 12:34 AM   #1418 
  - Thank you! Please make all results of all surveys 100% public. nt  grahamhgreen   Aug-21-10 12:52 AM   #1422 
  - Skinner, I hope these thoughts may grant you added perspective on your situation.  Writer   Aug-21-10 12:54 AM   #1423 
  - You write like Spock after a shot of whiskey, also...  Safetykitten   Aug-21-10 01:22 AM   #1432 
  - And you don't know your head from your ass.  Writer   Aug-21-10 01:29 AM   #1435 
  - Well I do know this. It is the proverbial gut check time, for our party and places like this.  Safetykitten   Aug-21-10 01:39 AM   #1440 
  - good luck with you PhD defense  shireen   Aug-21-10 02:35 AM   #1461 
  - Lol !  Joey Kidd   Aug-21-10 04:50 AM   #1477 
  - oh that's funny!  nashville_brook   Aug-21-10 10:27 AM   #1562 
  - This is not very good "writing" is it?  John Agar   Aug-21-10 07:30 AM   #1510 
     - Oh look, it's Shirley Temple's husband.  DevonRex   Aug-21-10 08:28 AM   #1526 
     - Was he from Pennsylvania? I can't recall  CBR   Aug-21-10 08:51 AM   #1533 
        - I"m sure that's it. Pennsylvania.  DevonRex   Aug-21-10 09:13 AM   #1541 
     - Heard you turned down lunch with the President.  Scurrilous   Aug-22-10 01:05 AM   #1707 
  - no knock on Writer, but that was fucking funny!  Barack2theFuture   Aug-21-10 10:41 AM   #1564 
  - Excellent post. n/t  Catherina   Aug-21-10 02:50 AM   #1463 
  - Great post Writer...  CBR   Aug-21-10 07:20 AM   #1507 
  - "Political communication is a large function of my PhD work."  woo me with science   Aug-21-10 07:49 AM   #1516 
  - In the past I have donated because I felt I was paying for a service  GinaMaria   Aug-21-10 01:03 AM   #1426 
  - For me it's the community. If you're a solidarity democrat there's no where to participate here.  deacon   Aug-21-10 01:10 AM   #1427 
  - What, pray tell, is a "solidarity Democrat"?  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:21 AM   #1489 
     - It means Party over Principle.  boston bean   Aug-21-10 06:37 AM   #1491 
        - Yeah, that's what I thought  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:47 AM   #1498 
        - "It's a viscious circle."  MineralMan   Aug-21-10 09:02 AM   #1535 
           - lol  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 09:16 AM   #1543 
  - Dear Skinner EarlG, and Elad. Message heard and my grateful donation made.  denbot   Aug-21-10 01:25 AM   #1433 
  - Skinner - It's not the disagreements. DU is in conflict with it's mission  Go2Peace   Aug-21-10 01:33 AM   #1437 
  - This is a plumbing problem  dave29   Aug-21-10 01:51 AM   #1442 
  - I've been on DU almost since the beginning. I honestly don't  Lindsey   Aug-21-10 02:16 AM   #1453 
     - There is very, very little "Obama Bashing" on DU  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:43 AM   #1494 
     - Don't believe our lying eyes  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 07:04 AM   #1502 
     - There is very, very little "Obama Bashing" on DU  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:43 AM   #1495 
     - I can appreciate what you are saying. However, many Democrats here are accused of being 'Greens.'  laughingliberal   Aug-21-10 10:03 AM   #1556 
  - I hadn't realized there was so much strife here.  smiley_glad_hands   Aug-21-10 02:01 AM   #1449 
  - Honest question: why is it ALWAYS "People on the Left"n who need to be quiet  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 06:45 AM   #1496 
     - Sorry, I dont understand the context of your question as it relates to my post.  smiley_glad_hands   Aug-21-10 09:34 PM   #1686 
  - Some of us aren't mad, just flat broke.  donheld   Aug-21-10 03:03 AM   #1466 
  - Well, perhaps the purpose for this community needs to be redefined now.  Dover   Aug-21-10 03:28 AM   #1471 
  - Up to 885 as of this post  pstokely   Aug-21-10 04:58 AM   #1478 
  - Its not You Skinner,or the "Divisions" that are forming here...  PJPhreak   Aug-21-10 06:08 AM   #1483 
  - Then," have amnesty for banned DUers  XanaDUer   Aug-21-10 06:36 AM   #1490 
  - Just donated.  JTFrog   Aug-21-10 06:37 AM   #1492 
  - I honestly think it has more to do with the economy than heavy disputes.  glowing   Aug-21-10 06:45 AM   #1497 
  - #900  peekaloo   Aug-21-10 07:22 AM   #1508 
  - Looks like the owners and community have some soul-searching to do.  John Agar   Aug-21-10 07:26 AM   #1509 
  - A moderated forum is um moderated  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 08:10 AM   #1523 
  - Why leave so soon after you got here?  MineralMan   Aug-21-10 09:06 AM   #1539 
  - My big question is...  pipi_k   Aug-21-10 09:44 AM   #1550 
  - good post. nt  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 10:47 AM   #1566 
  - There's not that much "censorship" and banning  Renew Deal   Aug-21-10 01:16 PM   #1595 
  - I Love DU  scarletlib   Aug-21-10 07:54 AM   #1518 
  - I just made my yearly renewal to SPLC, ACLU, and AU...  Adsos Letter   Aug-21-10 08:07 AM   #1521 
  - i think the problem is that more and more people are starting to realize that the  datasuspect   Aug-21-10 08:08 AM   #1522 
  - Not really  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 08:25 AM   #1525 
  - + My household. n/t  truedelphi   Aug-21-10 02:38 PM   #1613 
  - I will donate after the drive is over....  whistler162   Aug-21-10 08:13 AM   #1524 
  - In college I dated a woman who was really good at gelato  Orrex   Aug-21-10 08:36 AM   #1528 
  - I know this is going to sound weird,  MoonRiver   Aug-21-10 08:44 AM   #1530 
  - K & R for honesty  OwnedByFerrets   Aug-21-10 09:03 AM   #1536 
  - DU in B&W discusses  Festivito   Aug-21-10 09:19 AM   #1544 
  - What I wish most at DU  Onlooker   Aug-21-10 09:29 AM   #1547 
  - Let's be clear about the issue...  MellowDem   Aug-21-10 09:53 AM   #1554 
  - Yes to discussion  BootinUp   Aug-21-10 10:06 AM   #1557 
  - Looking at these posts (obviously I can't get through them all), it is disheartening to see  Lydia Leftcoast   Aug-21-10 09:56 AM   #1555 
  - Simple Solution to 70% of the Problem  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-10 10:33 AM   #1563 
  - The only posts I've ever had deleted on DU were critical of Ben.  LiberalAndProud   Aug-21-10 01:02 PM   #1590 
  - I like that. If someone here is nice to Ben Nelson, I'd be curious to hear their arguments  yurbud   Aug-21-10 04:20 PM   #1635 
  - All I ask is that you not bring back the disruptors who were banned  merh   Aug-21-10 11:41 AM   #1577 
  - You read my mind.  lamp_shade   Aug-21-10 04:15 PM   #1632 
  - Actually  ismnotwasm   Aug-21-10 11:42 AM   #1580 
  - A few posters' commentary here really stand out  chill_wind   Aug-21-10 01:01 PM   #1589 
  - +1  LostinVA   Aug-21-10 01:20 PM   #1597 
  - gee, take a couple of days off and the whole thing goes goofy...  Barack2theFuture   Aug-21-10 01:11 PM   #1593 
  - +1 Well said. n/t  Laelth   Aug-21-10 09:05 PM   #1681 
  - There is another site called "Progressive Underground"  steve2470   Aug-21-10 01:16 PM   #1596 
  - Moderator bias is largely what turned me off.  BeachBaby   Aug-21-10 01:31 PM   #1599 
  - +7  RetroLounge   Aug-22-10 08:00 AM   #1713 
  - too many progressive posts are locked for being ''divisive'' (ie, accurate about DLC)  yurbud   Aug-21-10 01:41 PM   #1603 
  - Some thoughts:  LWolf   Aug-21-10 01:42 PM   #1604 
  - "Unless we experience some kind of miraculous and unprecedented turn-around..."  Amerigo Vespucci   Aug-21-10 01:44 PM   #1605 
  - You need to find a way to make early donations 'sexier'  City of Mills   Aug-21-10 01:46 PM   #1607 
  - Skinner: We did it. Now we need to match this success on the streets and at the polls in November.  NYC_SKP   Aug-21-10 02:30 PM   #1608 
  - Somehow, I do not think that this was the primary purpose of Skinner's post....  demmiblue   Aug-21-10 03:04 PM   #1616 
  - Came to DU to fight against the war and war is a crime. We must stop it  kgnu_fan   Aug-21-10 02:37 PM   #1612 
  - I did a poll here a few years ago on ''What kind of Democrat are you?'' here's results  yurbud   Aug-21-10 02:50 PM   #1615 
  - I agree with your analysis. Accurate description of what has been going on.  kgnu_fan   Aug-21-10 03:28 PM   #1618