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PeteNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 02:36 PM
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Iím not going to slander a 9/11 victimís family
...but here's what I'll tell them about their opposition to the mosque:

http://peterdaou.com/2010/08/im-not-going-to-slander-a-... /

Iím not about to tell the family member of a September 11th victim that their opposition to a mosque in the vicinity of Ground Zero is due to xenophobia, racism, or narrow-mindedness. Attributing those motives to every person who opposes the mosque is something I refuse to do.

All I can do is make my case:

Iím an American citizen born of a Jewish-American mother and Christian-Lebanese father. I was raised in Beirut during the height of the Lebanese civil war, where Christians and Muslims slaughtered each other by the tens of thousands. I lived and breathed the same kind of horrors we see in Afghanistan and Iraq, endless carnage, indiscriminate killing of civilians, shelling of entire neighborhoods, kidnappings and car bombs. I ducked and dodged the grim reaper on too many occasions.

As a teen, I was conscripted into the Lebanese Forces, a Christian militia, and served for three years. My opponents were Muslims of all nationalities, Syrians, Palestinians, everyone who was attacking the Christian enclave north of Beirut and endangering my family, my friends, my life. It was a matter of survival. Muslim friends who I grew up with became mortal enemies. A country that was the model of interfaith co-existence was torn apart at the seams.

I moved to New York in the 80s and have lived here ever since. My daughter was born in New York. For years, my home has been the beautiful riverfront neighborhood of Battery Park, a two minute walk across from Ground Zero. On the day the towers came down, my wife and I were headed to WTC Building 7 for a meeting. We were delayed by a phone call and then switched on the tv and realized we werenít going anywhere and that the world we knew had changed forever. I lost friends in the towers and I watched my city get amputated. Every time I walk near the site, I look up in pain at the hole in the sky. New York will never be the same to me. I will never forget.

When I heard about the plans for a mosque, my first thought was Lebanon and the beautiful days of coexistence before the war. Tolerance and compassion are things have we to work at. Living our values and principles is not an easy thing. My love of our Constitution and the freedoms enshrined in it come from my time away from the USA. I want to be true to its ideals, to practice what the Constitution preaches. I believe supporting the mosque accomplishes that goal.

And whatís more, placing a mosque next to Ground Zero strikes me as a direct affront to the vicious murderers who took those precious lives. Few things are more satisfying than letting a violent perpetrator know that their violence has had no effect and that it has only strengthened our resolve and stiffened our spine. I want the terrorists to know that nothing they do will make us relinquish our values, that we honor the lives lost by sending a message that anyone can worship anywhere in America. We are not defending people, we are defending principles.

I see that as victory and I hope those who oppose this mosque see it that way too.

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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 02:48 PM
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1. K & R n/t
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 02:55 PM
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2. K&R
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 02:58 PM
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3. Good to see you, Pete
:toast: and K&R.
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PeteNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:01 PM
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4. Hey Will!
It's been a LONG time! I guess we're the real DU old-timers :)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:10 PM
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5. There's no difference between the religious intolerance we are seeing today...
From those who are against this so-and-erroneously-called Mosque, than the intolerance that caused the 9/11 attacks in the first place.

It's all the same... oh, the irony.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 03:48 PM
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6. It might not be xenophobia, racism, or narrow-mindedness -- it might be frightful ignorance.
Anyone who opposes a Sufi mosque based on 9/11 is either intolerant or very ignorant. I don't care whose family they are.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:19 PM
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7. Nice to see you here again
Thank you for sharing your insight. I will be reposting on FB. Perhaps you could get that published as a LTE.
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PeteNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:19 PM
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8. Thanks!
Nice to see you too :)
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:15 PM
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13. You're welcome
Obviously, DU has changed a lot, but it's nice to see some familiar faces now and again.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:26 PM
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9. The 9/11 families against it are being used...
...by the more nefarious and larger forces who don't have an actual emotional reason for their hate and anger other than their fucked up politics. They are a human shield to protect the real bigots.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 04:46 AM
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16. Actually, there is this one woman who is a deranged wingnut
and whose brother was one of the pilots on 9/11. Her name is Debra Burlingame. I think she spans those categories.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 04:39 PM
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10. kick and recommend!!
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:29 PM
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11. k&r
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 07:39 PM
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12. !K&R!
:applause:
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-10 01:21 PM
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14. Thank you for sharing that.
I agree with you - I think it's a slap in the face to the terrorists to put a mosque near Ground Zero. It shows that we are not afraid of them and it shows that we do not attribute their behavior to Islam itself, but to ignorance and hatred.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 04:35 AM
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15. I'm kicking this. More people should read it.
:hug:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 06:57 AM
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17. Thanks because I hadn't seen in earlier and this post is an excellent one.
You're right, more should read it - I wish there were a way for those opposed to the Cordoba House to read it.

Kick - I'm just sorry it's too late for me to Recommend.

:thumbsup: to the OP!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:09 AM
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18. I'm not telling them what their rationale is, it is all that had been expressed
What non-bigoted reason had been mentioned?

I've heard not read a single thing that wasn't a willful conflating of the innocent with the guilty.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:32 AM
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19. After getting over my initial wtf reaction to Howard Dean on KO last night,
I think this post may be the perfect of example of the point he was trying to make.

Mind you, I'm trying to open my mind here. Dean really pissed me off with what he said initially and it took "sleeping on it" to make sense of what he said.

First off, please forgive me for not being an eloquent or creative writer. Hopefully I can get my thoughts into words that make some sense.

Even though I still feel that religious freedom is a basic American right. These Muslims have every right to place their cultural center where ever they choose to place it and none of us has the right to tell them otherwise, there is still a place for diplomacy here.

I "think" what Dean was referring to when he said that those who would be directly affected by this situation should sit down and talk to each other. Let those of us on the outside, stay out if that makes sense.

This would be the perfect opportunity to educate and dispel the misinformation and ridiculous fear meme being promoted by the right-wing.

(my gut feelings are in bold)

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:17 AM
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20. Park 51 has ALREADY met with "9/11 families" but the real deal is
Neither they nor anyone else is negatively affected by this development. AT ALL.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:40 AM
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21. Well of course no one is in fact, I'd think it'd be good for the local economy.
But somehow we need to put a lid on the right-wing screaming banshees. How do we go about that?

We have NO voice to match those of Fox News and their mouthpieces.

:shrug:

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:53 AM
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23. Exactly. Little can improve in America until her citizens

TAKE BACK THEIR AIRWAVES.



We'll see how that Net Neutrality thingy plays out... :hide:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:49 AM
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25. I hear what he is saying but the premise seems false and the onus was put on the builders
to put relocation on the table to show good faith and that is some bullshit.

A real dialog wouldn't be demanding pre-conditions, Dean is wrong. If these purple have concerns then they should seek to discuss them and go from there.

There are no "outsiders" to equality, that step onto this slippery slope affects is all.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:51 AM
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22. Too late to recommend this, but I'll kick it in hopes that others read it.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 09:47 AM
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24. Kick
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