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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:22 PM
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Obama To Sign Manufacturing Bill
Source: Manufacturing.Net

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House says President Barack Obama will sign a bill on Wednesday that will help U.S. manufacturers by reducing and suspending some tariffs on certain materials they must import to make their products.

Obama is scheduled to sign the bill at the White House.

The National Association of Manufacturers says it will help create jobs, cut costs for businesses and consumers and boost U.S. exports. The industry trade group says studies show that the bill would increase production by $4.6 billion and support 90,000 jobs.

The association says manufacturers rely on the tariff suspensions to get raw materials and other products that aren't readily available in the U.S.


Read more: http://www.manufacturing.net/News/2010/08/Government-Ob... /



Just a little sump'n sump'n for the naysayers out there - on both sides. :patriot:
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allthatjazz Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:31 PM
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1. Is this good?
Doesn't it reward outsourcing?
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:02 PM
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4. Here's a summary and the text of the bill...
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:03 PM
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5. That's what I was thinking - it's just more free trade stuff.
If it only applied to certain raw materials that we don't have here that would be one thing. But if it's for computer chips that could have been made here but are being made overseas so that they can pour their waste solvents into the local river, well then it seems like just another move to keep American jobs overseas as well.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:40 PM
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2. More detail
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1112855920100811

It would reduce or suspend tariffs on a list of raw materials and component parts no longer produced in the United States but used by American companies to make other products.

Some examples include shoe leather used by companies such as New Balance to make running shoes and some types of computer chips used to make computers.


Seems like a positive move.
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:58 PM
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3. b.s.
all this so called stuff they want to import was once made in country by people who live in this country , tax the fook out of these so called american corperations
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:05 PM
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6. And that's the real problem - we are paying people for assembly -

There is a certain amount of learning that takes place when you manufacture, and that leads to offshoots which creates more manufacturing. We have given that up, and we need desperately to bring those things back and MAKE them here.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:07 PM
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8. So, you want to fire up the time machine, or what?
The way it is, is the way it is. I'm not happy about it either.

90,000 jobs <> chump change.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:24 AM
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15. No middle ground between touting this as "a little sump'n sump'n for the naysayers" & time travel?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:05 PM
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7. Not very much detail. Here's both more and a lot more.
"More":

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-4380...

"12/16/2009--Introduced.
Miscellaneous Trade and Technical Corrections Act of 2009 - Amends the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States to provide for duty suspensions and reductions through December 31, 2012, for specified chemicals and other products. Extends existing suspensions and reductions of duties through December 31, 2012, for other specified chemicals and products. Imposes, suspends, and increases and/or decreases the duty on certain chemicals through December 31, 2012. Extends, through December 31, 2012, the suspension of duty on certain products. Imposes, through December 31, 2012, a duty on: (1) brakes designed for bicycles; and (2) certain 12V lead-acid storage batteries. Suspends, through December 31, 2012, the duty on: (1) certain catalytic converter mats of ceramic fibers; and (2) certain herbicides. Extends the duty on aspirin through December 31, 2012. Amends the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA) to extend certain customs fees for the processing of merchandise entered into the United States through June 14, 2018, and June 28, 2018, respectively. Amends the Corporate Estimated Tax Shift Act of 2009 to increase the estimated tax payments of corporations with at least $1 billion in assets in the third quarter of 2014 by 0.75%."

"Lot more":
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-...

Annoyingly, the media are billing it as something extraordinary. Congress pretty much passes one of these every year to tweak import/tariff law. A lot of this bill is an extension of the previous set of tweaks. Of course, a number of reductions in tariffs were set to expire at the end of 2009; this bill was intended to extend them, but it didn't pass so I think they did expire.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:01 PM
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10. My grandparents sent their cow hides
to Kinney shoes which had a factory about 10 miles from their farm that provided a lot of jobs in what is now a seriously depressed area economy.
No brands, barbedwire fence scars or scrapes it was premium 'raw' material for shoes and many other things.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:43 PM
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13. "Component parts no longer produced in the United States"
Sounds like what we need are huge tariffs so these component parts are economic to be produced here again.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:15 PM
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9. Here are some of the items the bill mentions:
Microwave oven and range hood combinations with oven capacity exceeding 45.0 liters

Shopping bags with an outer surface of spun bonded polypropylene fabric or nonwoven polypropylene fabric (provided for in subheading 4202.92.30) Free No change No change On or before 12/31/2012 .

Cast stainless steel single-piece exhaust gas manifolds, suitable for use solely or principally with spark-ignition internal combustion engines



These couldn't be made here?
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:06 PM
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11. Yes they can and were made here at one time
Besides we need to get away from plastic bags..
I have canvas bags for shopping (they are several years old)_that were US made. Hell if i could get my hands on a couple of Pfaff sewing machines and a source for sail cloth I could make and sell them..unfortunately my Pfaff commercial sewing machine was lost in the move from Fla to NC, and I do not have the room in the house to do it in .
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:28 PM
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12. As long as the country continues to follow this lie that we have
to export our jobs to be competitive it will not improve. We should be giving financial incentives to American manufacturing companies that hire American employees in America. Every other country in the world protects it's core manufacturing base but not America.

It really is a matter of National security.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:19 PM
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14. Shouldn't this be called the "Not-made-in-the USA manufacturing act"?
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 10:20 PM by brentspeak
Labeling a "free trade" bill that actually encourages manufacturing outside the United States the very opposite of what it actually does.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:47 AM
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17. Well, if the Patriot Act was about patriots, not snooping, then
this is about manufacturing, not importing.


George Orwell's tombstone should read, "I told you so." or maybe just :rofl:

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:29 AM
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16. This a "Buy Foreign Even Cheaper Than Ever" Act.
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 11:39 AM by No Elephants
I guess the goal is to try to keep manufacturers in America by making it a little cheaper for them to continue operating here. And I bet it ends up costing more jobs than it saves or creates, as well as lowering the U.S.'s income.

We keep trying to fix our economy by helping businesses become more profitable and crossing our fingers that something will somehow trickle down.

Happy plutonomy, everyone!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:48 AM
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18. K & R
:thumbsup:
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