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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:13 PM
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President Barack Obama has lost the most trusted man in the Hispanic media.
Ramos must need a drug test too.

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Univisions Jorge Ramos, an anchor on the nations largest Spanish-language television network, says Obama broke his promise to produce an immigration reform bill within a year of taking office. And Latinos are tired of the speeches, disillusioned by the lack of White House leadership and distrustful of the president, Ramos told POLITICO.

He has a credibility problem right now with Latinos, Ramos said. Well see what the political circumstances are in a couple of years, but there is a serious credibility problem.

The shift in tone among Hispanic opinion makers is helping solidify a narrative about Obama among Latino voters. They held great hopes for the president given his promise in a May 2008 interview with Ramos to draft an immigration reform bill during his first year in office but he has deeply disappointed them so far.

Latinos voted overwhelmingly for President Obama, and they expected him to keep his promise and he broke his promise, said Ramos...

An administration official pointed to the presidents accomplishments on immigration reform his work with senators on a legislative framework, pressing Republicans to step up and delivering the speech last month to restart the discussion. But until a few Republicans break ranks, the official said, Obama is stymied.

For years, they said, Democratic leaders told Hispanics to be patient; now, their patience has run out.

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This is the way President Obama operates. At some point Democrats, including the crowd that still thinks Barack Obama is their boyfriend, need to wake up and realize that the guy we voted for isn't going to do squat unless we force him to. Read More......


http://www.americablog.com/2010/08/la-izquierda-profesi...

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:15 PM
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1. Well..it's not as the Republicans will help
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:16 PM
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2. New Democratic selling point: "we won't help, but we're not Republicans."
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 07:18 PM by Bluebear
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:19 PM
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3. Selling Point? Must be new Republican talking point...never get how 1 person can
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 07:20 PM by HipChick
represent an entire race?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:20 PM
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4. Do you care to comment on the Hispanic concerns in the piece?
Or is this some tapdancing exhibition? :)
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:21 PM
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6. Are they the same when Bush was in the WH
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 07:23 PM by HipChick
or is this just another Obama bashing thread?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:23 PM
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7. You contribute nothing here but hijack thread after thread. Away.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 07:24 PM by Bluebear
/ignore at last.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:50 PM
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24. What race are Hispanics?
Jorge Ramos is white
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:21 PM
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5. Shades of... 1994 and 1980
if they don't wake up and FAST.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:24 PM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:25 PM
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9. "whiners" - - - you're as arrogant as GIbbs. Pathetic. nt
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:31 PM
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12. that is exactly what you are!! We DO NOT have a majority in the Senate
No matter how many times you and your ilk are told that, no matter how much evidence is presented as a cold hard slap in the face, you STILL DON'T GET IT!!! I can't figure out the reason for the life of me. Are those that bitch the most no matter what former Kucinich or Hillary supporters that are still angry? Do some of the left have an issue with race deep down and cloak that racism in ridiculous arguments with no foundation!

Again, the dems DO NOT have a majority in the senate!!!! If we did, we would at least have a public option and maybe medicare for all as an example. So what, would you rather have Obama do NOTHING than to try and at least take a small step in the right direction?? All you people are accomplishing is an almost guarantee that Obama will have to deal with a new senate majority leader from the right and possibly a new burnt orange colored speaker of the house!!! Maybe if you'd tout what has been done instead of whining, we would get a bigger majority in the fall!!! Some dems have an uncanny way of shooting progress in the foot!!!!


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:36 PM
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14. So tell me, since I obviously do not understand the American System
Majority Leader Reid is a Republican? And the heads of committee, like I don't know Chairman Dodd are Republicans?

Thank you... I guess I missed the memo as to when they changed parties. Good to know that Mitch McConnell is a Democrat...

Now if you want to be exact in your use of terms, you would not be this ridiculous and claim what is plainly WRONG to any objective observer. To claim that we don't have the majority when we have control of all committees and the majority leader is a dem... is out right there with INGSOC's war is peace.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:45 PM
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20. In a thread about Hispanics being disappointed, windy claims we might be racists.
Only on DU.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:38 PM
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15. Raul Grijalva was just on Countdown exactly explaining that...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:42 PM
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17. YOU are!!!! YOUR ilk!!!! Bitching! WHINING!!!! You people!! Racists!!!@@@@@ -- Gibbs would be proud.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 07:44 PM by Bluebear
:silly:
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:00 PM
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29. ridiculous
We have close to a filibuster proof majority. The republicans managed to get their legislation through in the 80's and 90's when they had 55 seats in the Senate and perhaps 11% majority in the House. That crap about not having enough votes is simply that, crap. You do not need 60 seats or 65 seats if you have courage and leadership. I supported Obama financially and politically and I am frustrated that the strategy is always to negotiate from a point of weakness.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:34 AM
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44. Dems have a majority in the senate. The fact that it doesn't deliver tells us a bit about the...
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 04:34 AM by JVS
effectiveness of the "big tent" though.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:47 AM
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45. And..
I don't know how many times your "ilk" are told many of us are angry at things he CAN control. Like Bagram.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:53 PM
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51. Well it's a good thing Obama supports the most liberal candidates for Congress
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 12:53 PM by Smashcut
in every race.

Oh wait? Whut?

Obama consistently supports DLC shills and conservadems for reelection?

So it's not "the angry left" that's preventing his "true" agenda from being realized?

Huh.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:53 PM
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53. huh indeed!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:03 PM
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55. Huh?
We have MORE senators than they do. That's a majority. We have committee chairs too. That is because we have a MAJORITY.

Geez. Is it the math or the civics you're struggling with here??
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:28 PM
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10. Whiners? Here is a hint I'll give you
go on and pick two books up. One on how to win friends and influence people. They have it often at the local Barnes and Noble for cheap. The other... is a basic poli sci 101 book.

It is quite obvious you do not understand poli sci. Frustrated voters tend to stay home in the United States. This is a HISTORIC Pattern. I am sure you can find a few books on voting behavior. I am just pointing to that thing you seem not to understand called HISTORY.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:29 PM
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11. I would include links to La Raza, etc., but she would just call them whiners too.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:35 PM
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13. I don't think Obama realized just what a horrendous mess Bush left
until he sat down behind that big chair and looked at the books. That had to take up some time.
And the many things he must deal with on a daily basis that comes out of the blue unplanned.

So sorry Jorge that you are displeased along with so many others that your particular issue isn't dealt with 2 weeks ago and perfect for your taste.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:49 PM
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21. How come Obama didn't know if WE knew?
Was he listening to the wrong people? Would he have been better prepared if he had listened to US?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:56 PM
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27. I think there's shit he knows that you don't.
just a wild guess.

:eyes:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:07 PM
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56. So you're saying that Ramos is pouting because he didn't get his caballito?
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:38 PM
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16. "including the crowd that still thinks Barack Obama is their boyfriend" - Nice.
:eyes:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:43 PM
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18. Go tell Aravosis you are displeased :)
He doesn't mince words. On the other hand, his website raised $43,000 for Obama so he has every right.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:55 PM
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26. Oh, it doesn't displease me. I actually thought it was your own contribution since you blocked it
off in the way folks sometimes do when they post text from articles but want to add a comment of their own.

I stand corrected.

That said, I find it interesting that you plucked out the most divisive quote you could find from that rant of his and prominently posted it in the block of your OP. One sure to fan flames. I'm sure it will provoke some "un-minced" words from other DU'ers, for sure. Not sure how productive that is, but, what the hey: it's your OP.

Rock on. :beer:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:07 PM
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57. You'll pardon me, but please go to the link. The most divisive quote I "plucked" was the ONLY one.
besides

'Hmm, that sounds familiar. So do this:'

and

'And this sounds familiar too:'

Any more you would like to accuse me of?

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:44 PM
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19. A little over the top comment? Can't even listen to another opinion? nt
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:50 PM
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22. Blue grass grows on donut farms? Beige water bottles cross farm roads at night?
The two sentences above have about as much coherent relevance to your post as your reply has to mine.

Please try again, thanks.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:51 PM
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25. The red dog swam to Belgium at dusk.
:toast:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:50 PM
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23. This can't be blustered away with snark or reprimands such as we see here at DU and from Gibbs
There are realities that can only resolved with legislation that the administration at least truly tries to get passed into law.

Hispanic peoples don't have to turn to the R party, they just have to give up and stay home.

K&R
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:04 PM
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31. Will that make things better for their cause ?
:shrug:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:07 PM
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32. Go ask Ramos
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:59 PM
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28. You are quoting the Republican publication Politico?
really?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:01 PM
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30. So President Obama can't do anything without the support of Republicans in Congress?

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:07 PM
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33. He should tell hispanics to stay home in 2010 and 2012 and let the GOP get a majority ...
so they can change the 14th amendment to make the xenophobes happy.

That will show Obama.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:07 PM
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34. He's no Don Francisco.








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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:56 PM
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35. Bluebear, the new authority on all things Latino
Who woulda thunk it... :eyes:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:11 PM
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36. The sky isn't falling....
Among Latino Voters: 43% approval; 32% Undecided; 21% Disapproval.

Every time Tom Tancredo opens his mouth, Hispanic voters are less likely to vote Republican.

Than you for reporting this non-disaster.

Next....
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:26 PM
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37. Well, if a news anchor says it true, then it must be!
I guess this means we should take the word of Brit Hume on the issues of the day because he's a new anchor too so what he says must be true.....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:45 PM
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:19 PM
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40. Nor am I surprised you twisted and distorted my words. You've learned a lot from Brit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:20 PM
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:36 AM
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47. Nursery rhymes? Really?...You've run out of
adult snark already and resorted to school yard taunts..

I've seen you give and get much better before resorting to such tactics. Maybe a little nappy will refresh you.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:30 PM
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38. This administration challenged the racist Arizona law. This administration put a latino on the SC.
And this President has asked for the process on immigration reform to begin. But really, does anyone expect this Senate to put anything decent together? You think healthcare was a nasty fight? It will be nothing compared to the fight for immigration reform.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:37 PM
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42. I like Ramos.
He's a real journalist and not a pundit. His Sunday round tables are informative and well balanced.

:)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:57 AM
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43. Ramos should probably talk to Grijalva, who said today that Latinos still know who their enemy is...
... and that it is not the Democrats.

Latinos know because every single day the Republicans remind them that RW America is anti-Latino and anti-immigrant and anti-brown people.

Grijalva seemed pretty sure that Latino voters would remember that in the polling booth.

Hekate
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:34 AM
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46. Why do people always seem to think that there is one official member of every minority
who speaks for the millions of other members of that minority?

We saw it here plenty during the Rick Warren fiasco, when LGBT people were told again and again that they were obviously just filled with poutrage for having a problem with the whole thing because Melissa Etheridge's girlfriend was OK with it.

I know this is a very bold statement, but it could well be that Ramos and Grijalva, being two different people, have different but equally sincere opinions on a subject.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:40 AM
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49. Who is to say that any
ethnic group walks in lockstep behind a given position. I've never seen it happen. The "Hispanic" community is no more monolithic than any other ethnic group.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:42 AM
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50. Very true, and it's great to see someone say it.
A bit of common sense, at last!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:38 AM
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48. God knows.....
.... Bush never got anything passed unless he had a solid majority in the house and 59 in the senate.

Obama once again FAIL. Hey Barack - do the math. No progressives, no latinos NO SECOND TERM.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:56 PM
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52. It's enough to make one wonder it BHO will have a credibility problem with a generation of
hard-working black middle-agers when and if the Cat-food Commission guts their anticipated future social security benefits. :shrug:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:57 PM
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54. Palin to her flunky, "Quick, how do you say 'mama grizzly' in Mexican?".
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