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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:59 PM
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Regardless of whether or not you agree with Gibbs, is the Left
once more engaged in eating its own? We're fighting over the color of the deck chairs while the GOP is down in the bilge drilling holes in the hull.
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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:01 PM
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1. Sure was stupid of Gibbs to pick a fight with the left, while being
in a Democratic Administration.
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:03 PM
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2. The Left isn't eating its own, because the Left didn't
start this crap. Gibbs started it, so your OP lead should read, "Is Gibbs eating his base". Worded that way, I'd say yes, yes he is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:05 PM
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3. No. Gibbs and the White House seem to be engaged in
triangulating for their own political motives.

We didn't start the fire.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:06 PM
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5. That is just a bunch of meaningless catch phrases tossed together
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 03:06 PM by NJmaverick
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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:08 PM
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7. No, she is right.
Gibbs is speaking for the WH. They are bashing the left to hold the center. They think they can win without liberals, relying only on conservative Dems and Independents.

Stupid strategy, really. And bad for the American people.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:41 PM
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19. But... We On the Left Have Little "Left" Or Anywhere To Go!! Certainly Not
going to go RIGHT, and can't deal with what I'm seeing EITHER! And NO, we DID NOT START THIS FIGHT!!

WE are getting blamed because we knew a different Democratic Party that USED TO work for "we the people!" Sure, MONEY has always been in the way, but it was used for the better good at one time. Now it's just SHOW ME THE MONEY.... I'll do with it what I want!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:40 PM
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21. Exactly. This is a great time to move the country to the left a little
and what do we get but this same old tired worthless DLC cr@p that has been proven to erode the party and not to work. It's self-destructive behavior, at bottom.
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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:06 PM
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6. Boosting their Conservative Credentials by bashing the left.
It is so disappointing. We've seen it unfold for a year and a half now.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:06 PM
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4. Eating our own is a myth.
The corporate media eats us, and we get the blame.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:10 PM
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9. You are probably closer to the truth.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:09 PM
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8. Better rethink that
Gibbs attacked US, not the other way around.

Expecting your base to play nice while you sell them out seems to be the neolib/DLC ideal of how things should be and when they're not, they attack.

Gibbs wouldn't have been in hot water had he attacked the real problem, a political party engaged in trying to shut government down to score political points in an election season by painting the opposition in power as ineffective. Gibbs was wildly off target and he was so in an insulting manner.

Face it, insulting a large part of your party's base in an election year is not the action of a smart man who wants his party to stay in power.

He needs a permanent vacation.

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:13 PM
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10. Well said, Warpy.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 03:14 PM by Individualist
However, he isn't in hot water as evidenced by his statements today. He was speaking for the DLC administration, and that's despicable.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:13 PM
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11. The DLC is eating the left. That's different from the left eating its own.
Obama, et al hate the left.

They never pass up a chance to say so.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:15 PM
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13. Undeniably true!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:35 PM
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20. Yep. nt
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:14 PM
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12. "Eating its own" is too vivid and imprecise to characterize what's going on.
A cooler tongue would say: "Gibbs has caused dissension in Democratic ranks by insulting the base." One hopes it costs him his job, and his ouster will be an opportunity to rebuild some recently burnt bridges.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:17 PM
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14. Not sure I consider mandates, cadillac taxes, and public option deck chairs
Just me, but torture, war, and Gitmo aren't "deck chairs" and neither are the civil rigths of the GLBT crowd.

But maybe that's just me.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:30 PM
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15. Let me make sure I understand your question
Gibbs is the one bashing the left - but the left gets accused of eating our own?

Typical.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:09 PM
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16. The Left eating its own?
More like the White House is cutting off its own legs to make Republicans happy.
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ArcticFox Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:19 PM
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17. No
Obama and his cronies are engaged in demolishing their foundation. They might pull conservadems into their house, but it will all collapse because without the liberal democrats, there is no distinguishing democratic from republican policies. Would you rather run a campaign based on your opponent being the "just say no" party, or on actual issues that would help the american people?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:35 PM
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18. No, we're complaining that the boat keeps ramming the iceberg.
But, true, the Repukes always are down in the bilge.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:41 PM
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22. Just here. n/t
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