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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:55 PM
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Grayson absolutely eviscerated Gibbs just a bit a go on MSNBC
When asked if Gibbs should resign he responds that he should be fired because he is doing a miserable job and is in over head so bad he'd have to reach up to touch his shoes.

Called him Bozo the Spokesman. Says the administration has Stockholm syndrome and totally called out Gibbs for using Fox talking points and said he shouldn't be the White House spokesman but rather a commentator on Fox.

I wish I could post the segment but I have no doubt it will be seen again and probably will end up viral on youtube. This was one of the greatest political smackdowns in a hundred years in this country.

WOW!!!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:57 PM
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1. W O W. Can't wait to see it. Someone post a link if you find it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:57 PM
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2. Thanks.
Refreshing to see someone stand up for common sense. Geeze.
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moksha Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:58 PM
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3. No more Mr. Nice Liberal. Gibbs picked a fight.
A stupid one, with horrible timing.

As for the Professional Left, you shouldn't pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel (or the modern internet equivalent).
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:09 PM
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32. We need a couple more hundred Democrats like Grayson . . . and we all need
to stop trying to fool ourselves about what's actually going on --

Everyone needs to set their BS meter much, much higher!!

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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:26 PM
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4. It was a thing of beauty to behold
When the talking head remarked that there was NO doubt about how he felt, Grayson flashed that big grin and laughed out loud.
I find Gibb's horrible habit of "uh..uh..uh..." so fucking distracting that I start counting how many times he says "uh" and I totally tune him out.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:28 PM
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5. I saw it as well. Grayson didn't pull any punches.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:12 PM
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33. Let's face it, Dems have been "pulling their punches" for decades now ...!!
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 12:12 PM by defendandprotect
Fairly, MUTE, in fact!!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:45 PM
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6. I hope someone posts a video!
He's right, Gibbs should be on Fox.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:45 PM
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7. Grayson did. Here is link to video.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 03:46 PM by harun
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:50 PM
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8. Thanks for the link. Its something that must be seen
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:26 PM
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36. Thank you--ABSOLUTELY must be seen . . . !!! "Bozo the Spokesman" ...
with Fox talking points -- !!

He's right, Gibbs "doesn't have his heart in this" -- he belongs on Fox News!!

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:57 PM
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9. Thank you so much!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 03:58 PM
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10. Grayson played right into the RW media's hand
Gibb's comment was directed a specific group, Grayson expanded them to include all liberals.

He looked like a deer caught in the headlights when she played Frum's comments.

Then he turned around and defended the administration's accomplishments saying that Gibbs hasn't done a good job of explaning the significance of these achievements.

That was exactly Gibbs' frustration: the people who continue to diminish the President's achievements.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:17 PM
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13. spin
Gibbs comment was a slap at a very large group - anti-war dems, Kucinich supporters, and the 71% of democrats who wanted single-payer or a public option.

He FRAMED it as a comment about so-called far-left media - but why, then, did he throw in all the other bullshit?

Try reading between the lines. It's called sub-text.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:06 PM
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20. I agree, and even then, I think CPC vice-chair clearly qualifies as "professional left". n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:15 PM
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40. Gibbs' comments did exactly what they were intended to do.
The White House sees an opportunity. And since the folks in the White House are as many of us have come to realize over the last 18 months, basically just opportunists, they want to take advantage of it.

The Republican Party is being taken over by the Sarah Palin extremists. The traditional Republicans are being shoved aside.

Obama was able to attract some independents in the 2008 election by offering something different, an intelligent, calm, reassuring demeanor in difficult times.

He is now hoping that disgruntled Republicans, the sensible ones who are troubled by the Palin and Tea Party nonsense, will join him in a movement of the center. That is his vision of a country that has pulled together.

Remember, Obama is the poster child for the condition called child of divorced parents. He longs for harmony, for a family in which the relationships are reliable and steady. Dreams of His Father indeed.

So, he wants to pull that estranged father -- the old-fashioned conservatives to his side and persuade them that he really is someone they should care for and work with.

As for us liberals, he wants to lump us together with the Sarah Palin crew. He wants to characterize us as the other extreme. The problem is that we are not extreme in any way. Our hero is Franklin D. Roosevelt -- historically the most Democratic of all Democrats.

Obama is not a Democrat. He is trying to found his own party, a sort of centrist thing. It's not a good idea. It's not a workable idea. But he thinks it is a good idea. It's ridiculous. You cannot deal with the psychopaths and schizophrenics in the extreme right. And you cannot equate them with us. We are FDR Democrats, tried and true. And if FDR lived today, he would be on our side and on the side of progress.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:10 PM
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21. Wrong. Grayson put the responsibility for that frustration where it belongs.
With Gibbs. He's failing in his messaging job and he's blaming the media and the left. Sound familiar? Grayson didn't look like a deer in headlights. He looked the way he always looks, calm, focused and deliberate.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:32 PM
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37. Grayson is right .... White House suffering "Stockholm Syndrome" ... but
instead of attacking their real enemies -- GOP -- they're attacking their base?

Yeah -- that makes a lot of sense!!

How about speaking out against the GOP and their brutalizing of the unemployed,

those in need of medical care -- especially 9/11 heroes! -- how about attacking

the tax cut for the rich -- or the trade agreements!!!

Wow -- talk about misdirection!!

Thank you, Grayson for putting it right!!

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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:25 PM
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41. What real achievements
That's our frustration. Obama always starts by giving in. Had he insisted that single payer be on the table from the beginning (which he campaigned on) then we might have gotten a public option. I am one of the millions of Americans that have such a high deductible and premium ($10,000 and $500 per month and never had any significant health problems) that I don't ever go to the doctor. This is not health care. This is rape on the part of insurance companies and Obama participated in the rape. Frustrated!!!!!! Hell, I now ish I had supported Hillary. At least she has balls.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:10 PM
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12. K&R for viewing later
n/t
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:01 PM
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11. Here's some more of what he said:
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:01 PM
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14. Robert gibbs was correct and does not need to be fired. Anthony Weiner gave the
the best explanation I have heard so far on Hardball with Chris Matthews. He just probably should have saved it for a democratic forum but he was right. Weiner pointed out that people were saying the Prez was weak,leaning right, and not responsive to his constituency. However, Weiner pointed out that this administration has had many accomplishments and those on the left comment, it is because they just want to strengthen some of those things. It was not an insult.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:02 PM
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15. It WAS an insult, as well as dismissive, arrogant & typical. nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:19 PM
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16. Argue with Grayson. I don't think he should be shitcanned for speaking for the administration
I think the whole gang should be disbanded.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:20 PM
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17. No sale!
Fuck DLC!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:56 AM
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24. I love anthony but he's wrong here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:14 PM
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34. "Prez was weak,leaning right, and not responsive to his constituency"-- Agree!!
And you and Gibbs want to celebrate that?

Or ask us to deny it?

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:45 PM
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18. thank God for Grayson..he speaks for me..no bs..just straight to the truth..like a person
instead of a politician..makes me feel a lot better just knowing he exists and has an interest in helping us effect change..
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:57 PM
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19. Well hopefully he doesn't get his way...
with his net neutrality stance. Does he speak for you on that?
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:45 AM
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26. read a little more, please.
He explained his position fully on Cenk's show a few days ago. He's in favor of NN, but he doesn't want the FCC writing the rules. Says he's had experience with them and they're corrupt. Says there are other ways to do it...

:shrug:



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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:10 PM
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22. k & R
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 10:43 PM
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23. A 'professional' lefty takes Gibbs to the woodshed.
:applause:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:42 AM
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25. He has a point. Gibbs does come off a bit like a right-wing commentator. n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:17 AM
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27. He was chock full of standard Reich wing talking points.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:17 PM
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35. +1000% ---
White House -- Obama/Rahm/Bibbs seem to share too much of right wing agenda --

attacks on public schools and pushing Charter schools!!

Cat food commission!!

And Bush couldn't have done that?

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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 10:23 AM
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28. I saw Rep. Grayson yesterday and his comments about Gibbs' piss-poor performance
as Press Secretary was absolutely correct.

Whether you think Gibbs was correct or not to go after the left, he has royally fucked up his job - that being to exert some direction and control over the press that goes out about this administration.

Everyone is talking about him and the left, etc. instead of e.g., the bill to save teachers' and cops' (oh well) jobs.

IT sounds as if Rep. Grayson has gone even stronger in condemning Gibbs. Good.

If only all (or even a some) of "our" representatives in DC were like Grayson.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:35 PM
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38. Grayson asks why he's not after the right wing --???? And that's a great question--!!!
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 12:36 PM by defendandprotect
Unfortunately, the right wing/GOP isn't on the WH "enemies list" --

the left wing is!!

Tell you anything?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 11:20 AM
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29. K&R
From an amateur liberal, "fuck you Bobby Gibbs!"
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:05 PM
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30. Grayson is way off on this.
It's not the Press Secretary's fault the President has an unpopular view of the left.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 12:08 PM
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31. Go Grayson . . . exactly my sentiments . . . !!!
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:09 PM
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39. Grayson was brilliant on that clip. Ow, ow, gotta hurt.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:40 PM
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42. Alan Grayson
and Anthony Weiner are two of my favorites. I'd love to see them run on a ticket for the highest offices one day.
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