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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:54 AM
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Ground-zero "mosque" designed to fuel a religious war
Although it is proposed as a YMCA-type recreational facility, most news sources refer to it as a "mosque." The average US non-Muslim considers building it at 9/11's ground-zero an insult.

Proposals to build the facility do nothing more than fuel anti-Muslim sentiment in America. Media attention is designed to fuel a religious conflict in the hopes of building support for unpopular war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:56 AM
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1. i suppose what you say is true --
if we are going to treat every one like babies.

it's not a mosque and it's not an insult.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:59 AM
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2. So they shouldn't build a community center because many Americans are bigoted fools?
F**king please......
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:02 AM
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4. I didn't sat that. I'm simply pointing out the propaganda value
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:05 AM
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8. Claro que si. ..... And I agree that the MSM is purposely stoking this.
nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:01 AM
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3. Is this your opinion? I'd love a link concerning
the insults, because that's not what I read.

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/dubo...

New Yorkers reject Palin's blithering bigotry
She and her pals use the "Ground Zero mosque" to stir anti-Muslim fear. But the world's greatest city says no
By Joe Conason
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:04 AM
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6. it's my opinion that this hate-mongering is pro-war propaganda
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:03 AM
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5. Newsflash, with the exception of fox, media doesn't get a memo every morning
That says, "Okay, Jim, today we're all gonna do THIS!"

Why does media run this shit? Cause the average citizen likes being enraged, it keeps them tuned in. I wish people would blame the fucking morons of society for poor media instead of blaming media.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:10 AM
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10. +1
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:04 AM
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7. Just because the media has its collective head up its ass and is mischaracterizing what it is
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:05 AM by Raineyb
doesn't mean that it is in fact a mosque. In addition, I don't give a shit what the average US non-Muslim considers an insult building at 9/11 ground zero. There's a giant fucking hole in the ground where buildings used to stand and nearly a decade later there's still a giant fucking hole in the ground. In addition it is NOT at ground-zero it is actually blocks away.

Furthermore, I see no reason why this group should not build just because some idiot bigots decided that they want to target Muslims. They are under no obligation to curtail their activities to appease a bunch of bigots. Especially bigots whom don't give a damn about NYC except to exploit the events of September 11, 2001. They can go to hell and stay the fuck out of my city while they're at it.

Unrec for appeasement fail.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:21 PM
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13. The level of animostiy in your response simply gives credence to the OP.
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SecularMotion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:08 AM
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9. WTF is a "average US non-Muslim"?
and please provide links to support this statement.

"The average US non-Muslim considers building it at 9/11's ground-zero an insult."
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:11 AM
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11. those are uninformed neocon republicans for the most part
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:27 AM
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12. The opposition to the Center is too silly to be taken seriously.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 08:30 AM by Smarmie Doofus
1. The Muslim population in NYC is in excess of 10%. That's in excess of 700,000 people. They have a right to have a community center.

2. The Center isn't even AT ground zero.( Which shouldn't matter either; but it's an added absurdity.)

3. All Muslims are not fundamentalist Muslims and all indications are that only a tiny minority of American Muslims are even slightly interested in breaking any American laws.

4. I will occassionally counsel DEMs to backburner hot button issues to achieve a greater good ( or avoid a greater evil). But this is not one of those times or one of those issues. Bowing to the crazies will set a blatantly unconstitutional and antidemocratic precedent. Moreover, we will pass up a *very* rare opportunity to educate the general public on an issue that IS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.

Some issues are complicated. This isn't one of them.
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