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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:22 PM
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On the imperative of leaving earth
Many more people that are way smarter than I have commented that for the human race to survive we must leave the earth. I happen to agree with that assessment.

That said, I think putting stuff on top of a rocket and shooting it into orbit is a crazy way to move people to orbit and beyond. Rockets have a few things going for them - including relatively smooth acceleration that don't squish delicate creatures such as ourselves. Teleportation and the like just don't and won't work - complexity problem.

What would I start doing if I were king?

1. Robots will do the exploring. Mine asteroids and the moon (robotically). Solar sails seem fuel efficient.

2. Send out a lot of robots to take pictures and mass spectrography of other worlds in nearby solar systems.

Anyway, the real exploration is not for our lifetimes. But shooting a lot of probes to other solar systems can be done. This should be done.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:23 PM
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1. nah , we don't deserve to survive.
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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:27 PM
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2. Speak for yourself, please
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:30 PM
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4. I will speak for whomever I damn want , got it ?
If you don't like it you can go pound sand.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:30 PM
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17. I agree he isn't worth surviving, you are hang in there though
:) Some people I guess really don't like themselves and don't want to make it.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:40 PM
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8. I've always loved the staggering hypocrisy of these sorts of statements. (nt)
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:42 PM
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9. hypocrisy? , I don't get it , explain ?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:31 PM
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13. Then why don't you go kill yourself?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:28 PM
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3. Alpha Centuri is about 85 years away with next-generation technology
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 04:31 PM by tridim
With current technology it would take almost 20,000 years. Plus we don't even know if it has planets, let alone habitable planets.

Otherwise I agree, robotic probes everywhere in our solar system, especially the gas giant moons.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:33 PM
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5. I think that humans may have no say in the matter. We will become extinct
due to having made this planet uninhabitable for ourselves. We will perish.

The planet will replenish and survive...without the human race.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:35 PM
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6. Like cosmic cockroaches, we've fouled this nest, and must find another...
Unrec! :hi:
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:37 PM
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7. I kinda agree
We will survive here. Heck, stone age people lived. live in the artic. But we move on...it is what we do.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:42 PM
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10. We'll build an artificial earth before we find another one in the wild. nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:48 PM
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11. We, as a species are too immature and violent to be spreading ourselves around.
We need to learn to get along with ourselves and our environment. Right now we are doing a good job of destroying both.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:49 PM
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16. I wonder if we'll destroy a 20-40 million year survival record?
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 05:50 PM by Cetacea







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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:06 PM
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12. The empire is already in decline. The days of space exploration are over for good.
Peak oil, peak water, peak rare earth elements for exotic electronics like cell phones and computers. Industrial civilization made possible only by fossil fuels was a brief blip on the radar screen of history. It was a one-shot affair and we've shot our wad. It's all down hill from here, so we are permanently bound to Earth. like it or not.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:32 PM
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14. The see the misathropes have arrived.
:puke:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 05:39 PM
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15. All curiously alive, despite being evangelical human extinctionists.. (nt)
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