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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:46 AM
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Target Boycott on CBS.com - awesome video of mom cutting up her Target card
Target Boycott Movement Grows Following Donation to Support "Antigay" Candidate
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20011983-503544.html

This thing is taking off.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 05:59 AM
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1. I saw this and it is a good message to those stores that
target the gay population.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:06 AM
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2. Recommend
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:20 AM
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3. No more Target for me then!
Screw 'em!
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:54 PM
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14. You may even want to contact them
Direct contact for Gregg Steinhafel, CEO at Target headquarters:

Email: [email protected]
Phone: 612.696-6234
FAX: 612.696-6325

General Corporate Headquarters Contact

Target
1000 Nicollet Mall
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55403

Phone: 612.304-6073
FAX: 612.370-5502

And online Comment Form:
http://www.target.com/gp/help/display-contact-us-form.html?displayLink=tci
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:34 PM
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15. Great idea! Thank you for that!
:toast:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:05 AM
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4. I never shop there anyway. In fact, I rarely shop anywhere because
it depresses the hell out of me. All those "Made In (insert name of country other than U.S.A.)" labels bring me close to tears because it represents families losing their homes, kids going without proper nutrition and the end of a way of life. I've taken to scouring thrift shops, yard sales and church bazaars for "new old" goods that were made in the U.S.A. When you can find them they're more economical and of much better quality. I've also taken to doing without if it's not a necessity.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:27 AM
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5. You might also want to note that HRC has given Target 100/100 points
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 09:27 AM by rbixby
For employee same sex benefits, etc.


I'm not sure its such a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. The other part of this story is that Target donated the money before this group came out in support of Emmer. While it was a bad idea in general, as a company, Target is definitely a leader in encouraging a diverse workforce and in ethnic/gender/LBGT progressive policies. I think that the kneejerk reaction is to automatically boycott this, but when you dig a little deeper, things aren't so black and white.

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/organization_profile.asp?organization_id=1153&search_id=1&search_type=Quick


So how should you take it? My take is that Target, Best Buy, etc etc donated because of the fiscal policies (which I don't agree with) they support without thinking beyond that to the social policies of someone like Emmert.

You have to remember that Target is one of the leaders in supporting LGBT equality in the workplace and weigh all of these factors before you fly off the handle.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:44 AM
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6. The PAC is run by anti-gay RWers. I doubt Target will lay off gay employees over the boycott.
I stand by the boycott to hold Target Corp. & its CEO accountable for their actions & hypocrisy. Their support of LGBT employees is admirable, but this is overshadowed by the harm caused by Target's "pro business" cronies.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:53 AM
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7. Its bizarre that a company with such progressive policies
would support such a regressive candidate. I'm confused by the whole thing, particularly after actually meeting the president of Target personally. He didn't strike me as the republican douchebag type, but I guess they hide in the places you'd least expect them.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:02 AM
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9. It's about $
They'd support Satan if he was a corporate candidate
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:24 PM
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12. I might be okay with that actually
Satan for governor!
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:34 AM
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10. You need to read this.
Target’s Action Directly Supports Homophobia

It’s not Target shareholders, or Target employees, who are donating to the campaign of a homophobe. It is the corporation itself.

<snip>

(A)ny time a corporation puts corporate money-- funds that the organization has earned but has not paid out to individual shareholders, funds that belong to the corporation as an entity – towards the support of a candidate, that organization is directly supporting the views of that candidate.

<snip>

Sure, folks are going to say “But what about all Target’s other support of the gay community? Shouldn’t that count?”

Certainly, that track record of real support matters. But, if the executives of Target don’t demonstrate their corporation’s claimed values in each and every action — from health insurance to marriage rights — their claims to hold those values aren’t authentic.

A corporation that truly supported it’s LGBTQ employees and customers? A corporation truly dedicated to diversity and inclusion? That corporation would decline to contribute to a homophobic candidate.

If they could not find a pro-diversity candidate with economic policies they also liked, they would sit it out.

It really is that simple.

Really.

More: Target Misses the Mark on Diversity: Corporate Donation equals Corporate Homophobia

Now do you get it?

Socially-conscious progressives don't go boycotting willy-nilly, you know -- or, in your words, "fly off the handle" (a phrase that really grates on me in this case) for no good reason.

Some of us understand the difference between the frivolity of boycotting the entire Starbucks chain because one Joe Schmuck barista donated ten bucks to Prop H8, and taking legal, nonviolent, and often effective action against the decision makers of a company demonstrating that said company's so-called "commitment to diversity" is just so much horseshit when it comes down to dollars and cents.

You also wrote:

"My take is that Target, Best Buy, etc etc donated because of the fiscal policies (which I don't agree with) they support without thinking beyond that to the social policies of someone like Emmert."

And how would you suggest we make it clear that there are consequences to donating corporate money to bigots (especially those who are buddies with potential gay-killers)?

It isn't my fault the Target suits failed to investigate the potential beneficiaries of their newfound corporate personhood before they started throwing money at one.

Bad P.R. and a hit in the pocketbook may just make them more cautious in the future.

Again:
A corporation that truly supported it’s LGBTQ employees and customers? A corporation truly dedicated to diversity and inclusion? That corporation would decline to contribute to a homophobic candidate.

If they could not find a pro-diversity candidate with economic policies they also liked, they would sit it out.

It really is that simple.

Really.

One more thing: You do realize, don't you, that this is a direct result of Citizens United? And that this is only the beginning of many such incidents to come? And that if we don't find a way to come down, hard, on companies taking advantage of the most asinine, undemocratic decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in the past half-century, the Target dust-up is going to seem like a picnic?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:24 AM
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11. Yeah, Target, Best Buy, etc, donated because of fiscal policies
And some of us are boycotting because of fiscal policies--specifically that it doesn't make good financial sense to support businesses who funnel your money to people who want to eradicate your rights, or even kill you.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:27 PM
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13. And if firing LGBT workers was good business, they'd change course...
...you seem to think corporations have consciences.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:24 AM
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8. The fuckers actually answered my email. Asshats.
Target has long believed that engaging in civic activities is an important and necessary element of operating a national retail business. What's more important than any one candidate's stance on a particular issue is how we nurture thoughtful, long-term growth in the state of Minnesota.

Our support of causes and candidates is based strictly on issues that affect our retail and business objectives. To continue to grow and create jobs and opportunity in our home state, we believe it is imperative to be engaged in public policy and the political process. That is why we are members of organizations like the Minnesota Business Partnership, the Chamber of Commerce and many others. And that is why we decided to contribute to MN Forward.

MN Forward's objective is to elect candidates from both parties who will make job creation and economic growth a top priority. We operate best when working collaboratively with legislators on both sides of the aisle. In fact, if you look at our Federal PAC contributions year to date, you will see that they are very balanced between Republicans and Democrats. For more information please visit www.target.com/company, and view the Civic Activity page.

Target has a large stake in Minnesota's future, which is why it is so important to be able to provide jobs, serve guests, support communities and deliver on our commitment to shareholders. As an international business that is proud to call Minnesota home, it is critical that we have a business environment that allows us to be competitive. Our guests, team members, communities and shareholders depend on Target to remain competitive.

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback.

Sincerely,

Jennifer Hanson
Target Executive Offices
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