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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:17 PM
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On national standards for education and other possibly disturbing trends.
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 11:23 PM by madfloridian
There is a lot to be said for national standards to be met in education. But there is a lot to think about as well. Like who is playing a huge role as the government sets those standards. And surprise, surprise...it's Bill Gates and Foundation.

A Dangerous Proposal

A number of recent news items on education should demonstrate to educators how little attention the political establishment has paid to the legitimate concerns of teachers. That is because the so-called “educational reform” movements that were initiated during the Clinton Administration, codified by the Bush Administration’s “No Child Left Behind” program, and intensified by the Obama Administration’s “Race to the Top” have little if anything to do with improving education. They have to do with creating the illusion that they are improving education.


Please note that the same goals have been common throughout 3 administrations, two of them Democratic administrations. And the ideas were growing during the the Bush I years as well.

But there is a reason they are not going to be enough to truly fix anything in education.

To improve education would mean also improving the social and economic life of young learners who are disadvantaged because of racial, ethnic and class discrimination by an economic system that is consistently failing to provide good-paying jobs to an increasing number of working class and lower middle class workers. This is a systemic problem and using the schools as the whipping boy for its failure is one way in which politicians deal with serious problems: distract the public with a simplistic solution instead of a challenging one.


The writer mentions the recent discovery that NYC “State’s Exams Became Easier to Pass". Which made it look like students were doing better under the Bloomberg/Klein reign. And the writer wonders if the new national standards would meet the same fate.

.."The “higher standards” that Chancellor Klein is promising will be no more valid than the present “lower standards” the NYC school system has been promoting since the emphasis will continue to be on test prep instead of education.

The following day (7/ 21/10) The Times reported that 27 states are adopting “National Standards” for their education curriculum so as to be eligible for some of the “Race to the Top” funds by August 2. Laudable as it might be to have “national standards” (France has them), what procedures are going to be used to measure the success—or failure—of schools to “educate” their students up to these standards? Will there be penalties, as there are now, of school closings, student dislocation, loss of tenure, seniority, and, as a consequence, experienced teachers as a product of establishing and testing for these “standards?” If they are so important, why shouldn’t they be required for all schools in the country, private as well as public?


The 27 states easily adopted the national standards because of the promise of money from Arne Duncan. These are hard economic times, and why let a good crisis go to waste. Right?

But consider who has played a huge role, and a cozying up to the government role, in forming these standards?

Disturbances in the Force

The writer is speaking of working in the 90s to formulate national standards, and how it was so very much a political process.

What I remember most clearly about the process, both within the arts and in the other groups working on curriculum areas such as English language and mathematics, is how arbitrary, political, and non-standardized it was. To create the national standards that we worked from, “experts” in each curriculum area gathered and hammered out their own vision of what those standards should look like. It was a process very akin to drafting legislation, complete with special interest groups, political intrusions, and wild incongruities.

Now, a couple of decades later, apparently Education Secretary Arne Duncan and President Obama are either unaware of this history or are hoping that we don’t remember it. An administration that has struggled mightily to effect positive change in health care, financial regulation, and unemployment relief (to name a few) has swiftly gotten 27 states to adopt a set of curiously unexamined national standards, and a dozen more to move close to passage. How did they do it?


A possible answer is look who's on board.

So, to summarize:

* A private foundation created by one of the world’s wealthiest men funded the creation of “national” standards by “experts” in their fields.

* An unelected and unexamined group of people has decided for the entire nation which skills students should be able to master at each grade level; never mind that age and grade level are NOT determinant of readiness to learn any specific skill. (That whole discussion has been buried as inconvenient.)

* Private enterprise stands ready to scoop up billions of dollars in federal money that will pass right through the states’ hands and into those of textbook and test publishers.


That's a powerful group. Add to that Arne's billions for those states that approve them, and you have an answer.

The New York Times pointed these things out in a recent article.

National Standards

Their support has surprised many in education circles, given states’ long tradition of insisting on retaining local control over curriculum.

The quick adoption of common standards for what students should learn in English and math each year from kindergarten through high school is attributable in part to the Obama administration’s Race to the Top competition. States that adopt the standards by Aug. 2 win points in the competition for a share of the $3.4 billion to be awarded in September.

“I’m ecstatic,” said Arne Duncan, the secretary of education.
“This has been the third rail of education, and the fact that you’re now seeing half the nation decide that it’s the right thing to do is a game-changer.”


The effort has been helped by financial backing from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to most of the organizations involved in drafting, evaluating and winning support for the standards. The common core standards, two years in the making and first released in draft form in March, are an effort to replace the current hodgepodge of state policies.


More remarks from Disturbances in the Force

Instead of all the “hodgepodge” of state standards, which result in spreading the textbook and testing dollars around to various sources, the biggest publishing companies now stand to rake in all the state dollars for the uniform, standardized textbooks and tests. And since it’s all new, everyone will have to buy new. It’s the capitalist’s dream of the function of government: to shovel the public’s money into private enterprise.

Once again, dear readers, we are hoist on the petard of profit. Once more we are rushed willy-nilly into a great flurry of sound and fury signifying nothing more than a transfer of money from our pockets to the coffers of big business, all gussied up in the self-righteous raiment of “better education.”

If you can find anyone to take the bet, you could make a lot of money by wagering that, when all the dust settles, actual teaching and learning will continue to languish in favor of showy, big-dollar initiatives that do little more than make politicians seem like they are doing something about a problem they clearly know nothing about.


And there is more to think about. Consider that the "reforms" have in large part been done by two men whose work in their districts have been criticized and often discredited...Rod Paige under Bush, and now Arne Duncan.

The two principal initiators of these school “reforms,” Rod Paige under the Bush Administration and Arne Duncan under the Obama Administration, have been shown to be failures, if not frauds in the case of Paige, in the programs they administered as the superintendants of schools in Houston and Chicago. In Paige’s case, the improved test scores were found, in some instances, to be the product of cheating, and many of the statistics were skewed by not counting drop out rates. In Duncan’s case, some of his “reforms” proved even more lethal as rival gangs, forced to share the same “turf” because one of their schools was closed, began to wage gang wars, reflected in the rise in the recent murder rate in Chicago. Yet there has been no serious re-examination of the validity of Paige’s and Duncan’s programs in view of their actual records as “educators.”

Journal of Education Controversy Blog


Taking education policies national when they have not been proved to work on a local level...not a good idea.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:21 PM
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1. K&R
They've already built an brick wall around insurance corporations.
Let's not let them privatize our public schools as well.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:56 AM
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2. They don't seem to be listening to us.
But you are right.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:42 AM
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3. Now 30 states have adopted Common Core, including Florida
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/education/os-national-education-standards-07-2720100727,0,5463485.story

"Florida is the 30th adopter of the national standards, according to Education Week, a nationwide education newspaper that is keeping tabs on the initiative.

In some places, the Common Core has been controversial. Massachusetts, for example, adopted them last week but not before it heard from vocal opponents who argued the state – a national academic leader – was weakening its own standards by joining the national effort.

The Obama administration has encouraged the Common Core by making the new standards a key part of its Race to the Top grant program. States earn points in the Race to the Top application, if they adopt the common standards.

Florida is among the 36 states vying for a second-round Race to the Top grant after losing out in the first round. The U.S. Department of Education is expected to announce round-two finalists this afternoon."
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:36 PM
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4. k & r
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:09 PM
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5. Ah,
Rec count 4+1=4. Sad. I don't usually whine about rec counts because . . . well, it doesn't do any good. In this case however, it shows that even some of us couldn't give a $#!@ about what happens to the children of our nation.

On topic: The national standards are actually lower than the California standards. Lowering our standards would make us jump ahead and look pretty heroic. Maybe I'd get a bonus!! Seriously though, I agree with the author of your first snip. There can be no sea change in education until we start dealing with poverty as the root cause of failure. Pure and simple, and all this talk of "bad teachers," "incentives," "choice," "charters," is a distraction for the vast majority of armchair analysts, if not outright subterfuge to cover the mega-dollar "remediation industry" that owes its existence to continual failure.
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:34 PM
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15. If you think this article is a dud with Rec counts look here. The first comment says it all.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:13 PM
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6. of course it's gates et al. this is a facet of ed deform some still don't see;
not only are the deformers funding the destruction of the public schools, they're funding the construction of an alternate privatized education bureaucracy that aims to train personnel, set standards, accredit/charter schools, -- i.e. take control of every aspect of education.

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cleverusername Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:27 PM
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7. Education is low priority, not matter how much lip service it receives
Improving public schools requires hiring more teachers to reduce class size and hiring social workers to work through the school. These rich men are clueless.

The revised Texas textbook material sucks but Texas is too broke to buy any new textbooks. What else can we expect from government that does not make education a priority? That's both at the federal and state level.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:29 PM
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8. National standards are like the Ford Pintoization
of learning. You want the car on the market in two years for sale at $2000 a copy so you design and tool it at the same time. Once the car rolls of the assembly line you road test it and find its not only a piece of junk, but the gas tank tends to explode and the doors jam shut during a rear end collision, roasting the occupants. The solution? Ignore it, deny it, stall it, suppress it because your bean counters have told you that quietly paying off wrongful death claims at $600,000 each will be cheaper during the production run of the car than spending $2 a car to fix it. Those are the kind of people who are designing "educational reform".
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:00 PM
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9. I support National Standards
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 04:01 PM by erodriguez
I think having national standards, like they have in other nations, would do us some good.


I think it will be harder for states to game the system by lowering their standards and test difficulty.

The textbook companies already have their mitts in us. Textbooks are updated every few years anyway. Maybe this will be a way that states could pool resources to purchase them.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:54 PM
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13. I think the idea has merit, but have you read the Common Core standards?
Vague and almost meaningless. Some states will be lowering their standards to meet the national standards.
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:11 PM
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14.  I read them when they came out,
The ELA Common Core Standards can be a bit vague, however I think they are purposefully designed that way to make them easier to adopt.

I worked in curriculum development and have experience looking at and developing curricula based on state standards.

I spent my time reading standards of the big market states, CA, NY, TX, MA, FL and found they could also be kind of vague in ELA.

However, the Math Standards seem pretty detailed and straight-forward. I think they are solid and correspond with a lot with the NCTM standards.

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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:22 PM
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10. hmm...
How silly of me to think I could begin a career in public education at the ripe old age of 54...

First of all, I have been cautioned repeatedly by colleagues and friends to 'dumb down' so that I won't intimidate the administrators who might consider hiring me. I am not to use my considerable vocabulary during interviews, for fear it will alienate the hiring committees. And, God FORBID that I reveal my political tendencies, surrounded as I am by rabid Republicans and caustic conservatives.

The decision makers in public education talk a good game. Who among us doesn't want our youth to 'think critically'? OR, more to the point, which mavens of mendacity will deny that our students' vital imaginations are capable of far more than they are currently challenged to accomplish?

I had no frame of reference for the pitfalls of teaching until I undertook my accelerated certification program. Most of the veteran teachers I've met are grimly waiting for the insanity du jour to pass, knowing the ax could fall without warning, no matter how good you are, or how committed. Most of the people with whom I've waded through the certification process are either idealists who love teaching and can't wait to 'make a difference,' or they're certain that teaching is an easy way out of the corporate jungle, with a tidy little summer vacation bonus to boot.

What I've noticed across the board, and certainly at the administrative levels, is an egregious lack of awareness of our children. Children are property--or a commodity--to be used with little finesse. Extending them respect, nurturing in them a deep, longlasting love of learning--these ideals are seldom touched on, and are seldom held in high regard.

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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:31 PM
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11. Agreed, nicely put.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 04:42 PM
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12. It's especially worrisome in English, my area.
I've seen writing abilities plummet with the introduction of standardized tests, as anything creative or interesting causes a student to fail the test. The tests assess close reading skills, but we don't teach English majors close reading skills anymore (in most universities/colleges, at least), and the answers are so arbitrary that the students who think outside the box or could back up their answer with solid reasoning (which doesn't fit into a small circle on a Scantron sheet) fail the tests time after time.

English should focus on teaching reading, writing, thinking, and dreaming (as Sharon Draper says). When we forget the latter two, the first two really don't matter.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:56 PM
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19. The tests don't apply to college/university students, do they?
I mean, aside from GREs or something.

I agree about the potential of thinking outside the box, combined with the ability to back up an opinion with evidentiary use of quotes and whatnot, being a casualty of insistence on spending so much time studying for standardized tests. Filling in the blank regarding the meaning of a passage is less an exercise in distilling the meaning of a passage than it is an exercise in understanding the mind-set of those who create the test (the stereotypical WASPy male mind-set/ POV is usually a safe bet) so that one can guess what the test makers think the passage means.

Ironically, being able to guess what "the test makers" think things mean can actually be a useful skill in life/career... but it really shouldn't be misunderstood as meaning the same thing as reading comprehension.

I doubt teachers who take the time to teach that subtle point will manage to hold their jobs for long in this climate of teacher-punishing hysteria though.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:57 PM
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22. I totally agree.
I hate the tests. I'm tired of seeing smart kids fail over and over again (or just get really low ACT scores--our state uses the freakin' ACT, for crying out loud!) because they're smart enough to question the question.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:37 PM
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16. Standards are a tricky thing.
Too many people think it just means the answers to the test. Nothing wrong with standards, but without doing it well, there is no point. Every standards initiative I have been a part of always fell apart at the delivery standards. Until you can guarantee equality and equity, all the curriculum standards or even performance standards will be just so much paper work. Districts, states, and parents always balk when you start talking about the cost of performance standards and assessment. They never get to the really costly standards which are the delivery standards. There is the cost to improve buildings in some districts. And how do you address the issues of inequality between suburban millionaire districts and poor rural or inner city schools. You can't hold kids to standards if there isn't equity, let alone equality.

All the talk about standards is just neocon gobble code for "Let's come up with new ways to show that schools are failing." Rigged and Dishonest.

Thanks again Mad for your tireless efforts.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:38 PM
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17. Oh, and by the way. arne is a dick.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 09:07 PM
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21. He has no respect for teachers at all.
I get the feeling he looks down his nose at us from his lofty government perch.
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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 08:54 PM
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20. I agree having standards and delivering them well are two very different things
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 10:56 PM
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23. Anytime you get someone talking standards
but not addressing performance and delivery standards they are either running a con or are too stupid to know what they are talking about. Often they are both.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 07:47 PM
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18. k & r
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 10:14 PM
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24. An important point Mr. Shatzky said
age and grade level are NOT determinant of readiness to learn any specific skill. (That whole discussion has been buried as inconvenient.)


That sounds a lot like what I've been saying. Our schools need to focus more on individualized education of students, not lock-step classrooms where 40 students are supposed to learn at the same pace and the teacher is supposed to be able to correctly determine what that pace is. Let students learn on their own. Give them the tools and access to libraries and data and the internet. Teachers should be a resource and not a font of all knowledge that pours out at a pace either too slow or too fast for a large percentage of students.
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