Some people just really suck.

[arbusto_baboso]

I'm a social worker. One of my clients came in today for the annual recertification of her case.

She had quite the sad tale. The client and her 6 year-old daughter had been living with the client's former mother-in-law and father-in-law. She had rented this room from her former in-laws for a nominal charge. The father of the 6 year-old lives in a nearby city.

The father recently started a full-time job, and my client reported him to child support, since dad's new job was "under the table". Guess what the former mother- and father-in-law did? They kicked out my client and her 6 year-old daughter - THEIR granddaughter!

Now, why the hell would these people have more loyalty toward their adult, deadbeat son, than toward their own granddaughter, who is still a child???

Sure, my client has made some crappy choices in her life, and I don't excuse her for them. But the actions of the in-laws are truly unconscionable. God, people really suck sometimes.

[Walk away]

1. A young family living down the block from me were evicted recently.

Dad, Mom and two little kids were put out because they weren't paying the rent on time. The house was owned by the Dad's father and his second wife. They evicted their own grand children!

Now I understand if you have problems with your adult children and they need to get a dose of the "real" world but how do you put your 8 and 2 year old grandchildren on the street? I couldn't ever take a home away from a child.

[Art_from_Ark]

28. Wow, grandparents evicting grandkids

That just boggles my mind

[Ozymanithrax]

2. Yes, yes they do. n/t

[femrap]

3. He's their

'little prince' and it's too bad the grandchild wasn't a boy. The granddaughter doesn't have the worth of a son.

Can't you get the grandparents for illegal eviction or child endangerment. I'd find something on them.

Most people suck. I prefer living with animals....they're kind.

[arbusto_baboso]

6. I referred my client to the Fair Housing Commission.

If anything can be done, they'll be the ones to do it.

[femrap]

8. Good! nt

[atreides1]

10. Without a rental agreement

I don't believe she has a case, and as far as child endangerment goes, it's not their responsibility.

It all depends on what state law says.

And if they were willing to kick out their own grandchild, what makes you think they won't lie about everything?

[femrap]

23. Their actions may not be

illegal, but they certainly are immoral.

And the father lets this all happen. He doesn't want to support his own child. Seems he resents it. He wants to keep all the money for himself and pay no taxes either. What a turd.

Unwanted children. Maybe the mother should call some of those fetus lovers and see if they'll help with child care.

[atreides1]

4. A good question, a fair question.

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you! My father did this to my wife and daughter, invited them to stay with him and his new wife and family while I was away at basic training.

About two weeks later I get a call from my wife, it seems my father had kicked them to the curb, for some imagined slight. Luckily my mom came through and was able to get my wife and daughter a plane ticket back home to Hawaii.

With one exception, I have not talked to my father since, and that was in 1978.

At this point in time I don't know if he's dead or alive, and the truth is that I don't care.

So, like you said, some people just suck!!!

[arbusto_baboso]

5. Your mother sounds like a decent sort.

be thankful she's in your life.

[atreides1]

12. She was

For all the differences we had while I was growing up, I always knew I could depend on her.

Unfortunately, she passed away in 1992. But I will never forget her.

[AngryOldDem]

7. Saddest thing I've ever seen...

A boy dropped off at a homeless shelter by relatives on the night of his high school graduation. He was still in his cap and gown.

Now I'm not by any stretch of the imagination close with my relatives, but if any were in such dire straits I would do whatever I could to keep them from falling through the cracks.

[arbusto_baboso]

9. Exactly. My own in-laws are real creeps, but I could never imagine them...

doing anything like what happened to my client.

[blueamy66]

11. Child support

brings out the worst in everyone involved.

[Rebubula]

13. I agree people suck...

...but it seems pretty stupid for your client to be reporting the SON of the people that she is living with for failure to pay child support.

Perhaps the Father\Mother in law considered the 'nominal' rental fee a child support by proxy.

Deadbeat or not (and who knows if you are getting the full story) - he is still their son.

Either way...I agree that people suck.

[arbusto_baboso]

14. Actually, child support is MANDATORY, whichever state you are in.

So, the in-laws booted the client and granddaughter out for something that was going to happen - eventually - anyway.

[Rebubula]

15. Mandatory Child Support

I am a step father to a wonderful young man that has NEVER been helped by his birth father.

My step father never paid any money to my mother for his son.

Getting blood from a stone can be difficult and painful for all involved.

Either way....My points still stand that you may not be getting the whole story and NEVER get in between a mother and her son.

[arbusto_baboso]

16. Then the state which should be collectiing from the father....

has failed in its responsibilities. Some states are like that. Arizona and Texas are the worst offenders.

And as for saying "you don't know the whole story"....

How can you POSSIBLY justify any of this? HOW?

[Rebubula]

18. Not Justifying anything....

...just saying that your client should be smarter.

The world is what it is - a mean, cruel place with no way to enforce fairness. You need to be able to swim with the sharks and minnows alike. Living with your former Mother\Father in law and then reporting their son to the authorities is DUMB!

Again...without the whole story (and I bet that there is more to this story)...it is impossible to make any real assumptions about anything.

[arbusto_baboso]

19. True. She did make some dumb decisions.

Which I admitted in my OP.

But as far as the "rest of the story"....

There just isn't anything that would even remotely excuse this kind of behavior by the grandparents. Period. I don't care what it is.

[Pithlet]

20. Baloney. The child is entitled to support from her father, regardless of where they live.

She was sticking up for her daughter's rights, and she was not stupid for doing so.

[Rebubula]

30. Considering...

...her situation...yes, she was not being smart.

I agree...children should be supported by both parents. However, if you are living with the parents of the father - for a nominal rental fee - perhaps you should be more careful on who you piss off.

I have never said that the kid should not get child support or that the In-Laws are not assholes - I simply said that when in a dicey situation, you need to be aware of all the possible outcomes to your actions.

[jobycom]

17. I don't know, but it's not always that simple.

I had a friend whose grandkid got pregnant at 15 and started physically abusing her grandmother (whom she lived with, since her mother was a waste of life). Grandmother had gotten her a car loan (she had a part-time job), and had been the loving, affectionate parent for a decade for this kid. The kid started stealing, stopped paying the car loan (Grandmother had no savings and two part-time jobs, and a small retirement income), stole her credit cards and charged thousands on them, and started bringing her boyfriend over, who also began shoving grandmother around (physically). Grandmother threw him out and told the kid she would have to straighten up or leave. So the kid left and told everyone that the grandmother had thrown her out for getting pregnant, which of course ruined the grandmother's reputation and got the kid added sympathy and charity from a lot of friends.

I don't really blame the kid--she was 15 and terrified and had never had an easy life, and 15 year olds can't really be expected to act like grown-ups. The grandmother couldn't get custody, since the waste of a mother wouldn't give her up even though she would never take care of her (she didn't after her kid got pregnant, either). I blame the mother, really. And the boyfriend, who was 21 (and should have gone to jail, but the mother was afraid if he did he wouldn't pay child support and so she covered for the boyfriend).

Anyway, just saying, sometimes stories aren't complete.

[JVS]

21. Anyone who reports one of my family member's under the table jobs is not welcome under my roof.

[arbusto_baboso]

25. Even if that family member is a frickin' deadbeat dad?

Nice to know you have your ethical priorities straight. :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Pithlet]

27. Screwing their own grandchild to boot.

It's amazing, isn't it? I know I wouldn't have to think real hard on it. I don't get it.

[JVS]

29. Yes. Reporting him to the authorities fucks up the job situation.

You fuck up the job situation of anyone in my family and you are an enemy of my family.

If this were a simple matter of collecting some child support from a normal job, I wouldn't care. But this economy is shit and when an under the table job gets reported to an authority it wrecks the arrangement because now it at best over the table (with all the associated taxes) or more likely it gets the guy fired because the boss will set up an under the counter arrangement with someone new whose relatives don't rat them out. This means that her actions have either eliminated the job or gotten the wage cut by a hell of a lot more than just the support she wants. And someone who would take those kind of actions against the ability of my kin to work is no good to have around.

[arbusto_baboso]

31. It fucks up the job situation ONLY IF he has lied to his employer.

You have moral issues, my friend. Especially since the law REQUIRES my client to have reported what she did to child support.

Sorry, but you have no legal, ethical or moral leg to stand on. Justify it however you wish; you are DEAD WRONG.

[JVS]

32. No, it fucks it up because it violates the very nature of under the table.

The employer already knows it's under the table because the employer and the employee have an agreement for something to be under the table. And it was all under the table until she blabbed. Since he lives in a different town according to you OP, she probably got ahold of this information by living within the house. Then she goes an blabs? Yeah she'd have to get the fuck out of my house if she pulled that kind of bullshit.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. How can this be true? Straight marriages are holy Sacraments

and the parties to it are sanctified by the hand of God, or so I am told by the leadership of the DNC and RNC.

[Odin2005]

24. Ugh! What a horrible witch of a MIL!

:grr:

[EFerrari]

26. People do suck sometimes.

That's why God invented showers. :(