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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:41 PM
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Texas Mother Accused of cutting off her 3 month baby boy's genitals
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070511/D8P2ELNG0.html

HOUSTON (AP) - A mother who claimed the family dog tore off her baby son's genitals was arrested Friday and accused of mutilating the boy herself with a sharp instrument.

Katherine Nadal, 25, was led away in handcuffs while awaiting a court hearing on custody of the 3-month-old boy, Holden Gothia. She was charged with injury to a child and held on $100,000 bail.

Child-welfare authorities said she told social workers she woke up from a nap March 13 to find that her small dachshund had attacked her son.

But a veterinarian and a doctor agreed the dog did not cause the injuries, because there was no blood or human tissue on the animal or in its mouth, police said.

Police said in court papers that the mother had used a sharp instrument to cut off the boy's genitals. The instrument was not identified.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:45 PM
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1. Oh my god - that poor baby
WTF would possess her to do that?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:51 PM
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7. Pharmaceutical induced psychosis?
Let's ask Andrea Yates and the complicit Congress pocketing
the payola to remain silent about the connection.

BHN
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:14 PM
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10. Not very nice to blame the dog either. A dog can't defend itself against lies.
Fortunately the physical evidence probably saved the dogs life.
As someone else noted - the only job in the world with so much responsibility and absolutely no credentials needed.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:15 PM
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15. Now if it had been a pit bull
the dog would have had to get a legal team to defend itself :shrug:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:46 PM
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2. Texas and Florida.
n/t
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:47 PM
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3. Two days ago out here, some dude cut off his mother's head with a circular saw.
Then he tried to do the same to himself.

Man, there's some crazies out there walking around.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:48 PM
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4. I can believe this horrible story!
That poor child's life is ruined. What a tragedy.

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 09:54 PM
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11. They may be able to do a sex change
and with hormone therapy make him a functional female, since puberty has not yet occurred. But horrible horrible stuff.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:01 PM
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12. Reconstructive surgery possible
the little guy might be sterile but he can at least look male.
:cry:
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:20 PM
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17. thats a very compassionate thought but...
it doesnt really work like that in the natural course of a transgendered person. Many usually "know" when they are 5 and up that they are not quite uhm "normal". In order for a person to succesfully change sexes they really need to be identifying with the opposite sex in many ways but actual gender. I would imagine that there will be a reconstructive effort instead. The child will face much much more trauma being forced into the female gender than if they try to make do as a male. At least that is how it would seem to me... dont know though I could be well off base what with the age of the child and all.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:25 PM
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18. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Men and women are biologically different in the brain...
there is a slight difference, I cannot precisely remember what area, but it is impossible to get at it and not cause brain damage.

It's actually probably related to transgender individuals feeling male or female despite have the other anatomy of a different sex.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:29 PM
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23. Interesting stuff. Though I must say...
I am not trans-gendered, but if I had the choice to go through life from childhood as a male without a penis or as a normal looking female, I would choose the latter, just to "fit in". I would probably be a butch lesbian and so forth, but having a normal body would be worth it.

Lets just hope there are re-constructive options for this child.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:52 PM
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24. The past cases where that's happened have ended badly
Brains are gendered. You can't turn a male brain into a female one, no matter how early you start hormones, it was all decided in the womb. Kids who were subject to gender assignment/reassignment as the result of ambiguous genitals or traumatic injury grow up much like transpeople, feeling they aren't at home in their own bodies, only with the added complication of deception by parents and medical people and anger when it's found out. Some of them pursue surgical correction later. Some of them kill themselves, as happened in the most famous case, which involved a boy who was reassigned and raised as a girl after his penis was destroyed in a botched circumsicion. I don't think I've ever heard of a case that worked out at all well, in terms of the child growing up happy and comfortable with their assigned gender.

Anyhow, nothing could make him a functional female. A surgically created vagina is more convincing than a surgically created penis, and with hormones he'd be able to grow breasts and all, but he'll never have really functional (either reproductively or sexually- normally the latter is less of an issue but the erogenous tissue of the penis is generally used to create a vagina in MTF reassignments and in this case that's a non-option) sex organs of either sex. If he can't have anything near functionality in any case, he's almost certainly better off with a body that will mirror his self-perception
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:49 PM
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5. Happy Mother's Day to her, too.
:puke:

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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 07:53 PM
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8. I just can not stand for someone who harms
little babies. This is outrageous and disgusting. Why?
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 08:00 PM
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9. The most important job in the world, and NO qualifications for it
whatsoever. You don't even have to be sane...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:05 PM
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13. HM do you like making trouble?
:evilfrown:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:08 PM
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14. That's awful
x(
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:17 PM
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16. Texas? It Figures
You all know why, I'm sure
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:25 PM
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19. Wow. Someone actually makes an insightful comment in this thread.
::whistles::
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:45 PM
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22. Thanks. I live in Tennessee
We have to have SOMEONE to look down upon

Bush does CLAIM to be from there

even though Conneticut yankees know better

How do you spell that damn state?
Spell checker is no help at all
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:26 PM
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20. Actually, no I don't. Is this some unknown Texas tradition?
I believe this is the first time I've heard of something like that happening in Texas.
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AJ9000 Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:52 PM
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25. delete dupe
Edited on Sat May-12-07 12:31 AM by AJ9000
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 11:54 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 10:43 PM
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21. No problem; Texas already has enough pricks
I keed! I keed!
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