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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:26 PM
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Iraqis buying tons of U.S. military surplus items
Reporting from Fallouja, Iraq On the outskirts of this former insurgent stronghold, Munir Ibrahim Ismail and his family have taken up residence in an American military latrine.

They picked up the trailer full of toilets at a junkyard for about $5,000 less than it would have cost them to build a real house and set to work. They tore out the toilet bowls and scrubbed the trailer for days with disinfectant. They ripped off tiles, poured a concrete floor and added a window. They erected a divider to create two rooms and tacked on a concrete kitchen at the back.

Presto! A little piece of the American occupation had become a home.



Much of the withdrawal has already happened, barely noticed by a populace weary of war and more anxious about what comes next than what has gone before. Since troop levels peaked at 166,000 in 2007, about 80,000 have left. An additional 35,000 or so will go in the next two months, in fulfillment of President Obama's pledge to reduce the size of the force to 50,000 by Sept. 1.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-ira...

Looks like we're really, FINALLY, leaving Iraq.

Promises made...promises kept.

Thank you President Obama :thumbsup:

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:28 PM
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1. now the military can spend billions on replacements: war profiteers win either way nt
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:36 PM
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31. Do you do anything on DU but post flamebait and negativism anymore? nt
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:29 PM
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2. "barely noticed by a populace weary of war"...
also not noticed by many here at DU.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:30 PM
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3. Some enjoy whining more than winning....
:evilfrown:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:37 PM
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7. What the fuck does that suppose to mean?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:14 PM
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18. Exactly what I said !
:evilfrown:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:40 PM
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9. Getting out of Iraq is probably the most important issue to me..
That war was wrong from the beginning to the end and has served no purpose other than creating more enemies and draining our budget. President Obama has kept his word and I commend him for it. Lets just hope they are able to keep to the timetable and get all combat troops out by the end of next year.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:32 PM
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4. Where did all those troops go? Did they return to the US, or did they
go to one of the -istan suffix countries?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:35 PM
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5. Almost all have returned home to USA
We don't do parades much anymore....
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:36 PM
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6. That's bullshit.
"almost all have returned home"
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:12 PM
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16. You're right, that's bullshit. ALL, not "almost all"
You don't just jump from one deployment to another. In other words, you don't finish a tour in Iraq and then immediately head to Afghanistan. Your unit comes back to the United States and then later down the road (at least a year, I think is the minimum time) you may deploy again.

The pullout in Iraq is happening, as promised, and more troops and assets are being sent to Afghanistan - again as promised. I haven't looked at recent numbers to see for sure, but I believe it's a net troop reduction overall.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:23 PM
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22. I don't call leaving behind 50,000 troops a pullout.
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:29 PM
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25. We can debate the merits of leaving 50K and
whether or not it constitutes a pullout.

BUT, is it not what he said he would do?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 11:54 PM
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33. I believe some of the "...minium time..." rotation has been changed.
Deployment length has been extended in many cases (recall 'stop loss' reports), individuals have been moved to replace injured/killed troops (I have a nephew who went from Korea to Afghanistan with only a month between), etc. Navy units have been affected, with longer deployments and shorter turn-arounds.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:41 PM
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10. That's a question I'd like the answer to as well.
:shrug:

PB
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:38 PM
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8. But it didn't happen in 16 months
That's what's important. Not that we actually leave Iraq, it's important that it happens to the exact letter of the when and how Obama promised during the campaign.

I was in Iraq all of last year and I saw first hand all of the changes and preparations being made for withdraw.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:53 PM
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11. President Obama has kept his proimises..
WASHINGTON (CNN) - February 27, 2009 -- President Obama said Friday he plans to withdraw most U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of August 2010. Between 35,000 to 50,000 troops will remain in Iraq, he said. They would be withdrawn gradually until all U.S. forces are out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/27/obama.troops/ind...


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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:03 PM
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12. Most of them, yes he has
I hope you picked up on the fact that my post was snark.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:09 PM
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15. Ha! Missed the snark.. thanks for clarifying..
You never know around this place.. Cheers!

:toast:
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:15 PM
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19. Am I just being cynical or...
are *some* of the Obama "critics" secretly disappointed when Obama follows through with his promises?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:24 PM
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23. Yes
many take great pride in their ignorance.

Thank you for your service and I hope you AND my grandson will avoid further deployments.

:hi:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:25 PM
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24. Many hope he fails.. I think they have a pathetic perverse hope that from the ashes will arise..
some sort of liberal utopia. Sad.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:39 PM
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26. BTW, I want to thank you for risking your life for this country...
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 07:43 PM by DCBob
even though I think the Iraq war was a huge mistake. I have relatives who have served there and in Afghanistan and I sincerely appreciate their efforts.

BTW, I just had an experience I would like to share with you. I was on a flight from Chicago to DC a couple of days ago and there was young female soldier flying with me in army fatigues boarding just behind me. I was seated in an aisle seat and she was next to me in the other aisle. She had a large overstuffed backpack with a bunch of stuff hanging off of it. As she took it off, it and the stuff banged into my head repeatedly but somehow I did not mind a bit. She realized it and apologized profusely but all I said was "no problem"... and I meant it totally. Considering what she may have gone through and what she may have to go through in the future.. it brought a tear to my eyes. I totally respect those in the military even if the mission is wrong.
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:44 PM
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27. I really appreciate your kind words, thank you.
She was probably either coming or going from mid-tour leave.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:03 PM
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28. So you respect the soldiers that took place in the My Lai massacre?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:07 PM
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29. There are rare extreme situations where soldiers should not follow their orders...
but they are rare, very rare.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:31 PM
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30. So you are saying that the Pentagon and the higher ups are morally justified.
Really? Wow.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:51 PM
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32. So are you clueless or just pretending? Surely you know the military chain of command is critical..
to it's effective operations.. including the absolute authority of the President. If you dont, then "wow".
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:07 PM
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13. Thank you - I will take your experience as truth.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:08 PM
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Well done POTUS
And well done to the people of Iraq.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:08 PM
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14. Well done POTUS
And well done to the people of Iraq.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:14 PM
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17. We know what the Filipinos did with the Jeep
I'm curious what the Iraqis can do with a Humvee.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:21 PM
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21. Yes, indeed.. the jeepney is everywhere!
They also made great use of "Marston Matting", interlocking metal sheets used for temporay landing strips during the war, that are still being used as fences to this day. You gotta love the resoursefulness of the Filipinos!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:18 PM
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20. K&R
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:52 AM
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34. K & R
:thumbsup:
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