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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:20 PM
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Question about missing jury duty
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 06:46 PM by liberalpragmatist
OK, so I *just* got a notice for jury duty on July 6. I moved a few months back and apparently it was mailed to my old address and just today returned to me, although it says its the second notice. I don't recall ever getting a first.

The problem is I'm going out of town and will be out of the country as of Saturday, July 3. The Court is closed for the day, or I would have called when I got home.

Will I be able to get it rescheduled on such short notice? I can't cancel or refund my flight at this point.

Anyone have experience with this?

UPDATE: Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'll call first thing in the morning and if need be I'll drive over there with receipt for my tickets in hand. However, it actually appears like I may actually be in the clear because I no longer live in the county for which I've been summoned (I haven't yet updated my voter registration).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:22 PM
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1. Try the courthouse website...
Or calling the number on the summons.

I've postponed many times, for myself and for my boss, using both methods. Here's hoping your local court system is hep to the 'Tubes! :D
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:23 PM
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2. It varies state to state. There must be a contact #.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:26 PM
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3. As the other 2 posters said, call them. They're usually real good
about working with people...as long as you don't keep postponing it.

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:28 PM
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4. Worse - I got one, slid it under my keyboard and forgot about it
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 06:29 PM by tularetom
Then went on a fishing trip that went past the day I was suppose to have jury duty.

I didn't find the notice until 6 months later. Nobody ever called, no bench warrant was issued, no marshals came to my door.

There were no consequences whatsoever. It's now been 4 years or so so I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear.

Not advising you to do this of course. Your courts Could not possibly be as inefficient as ours.

I'd call them.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:29 PM
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5. Call first thing tomorrow morning
and ask for it to be rescheduled.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 06:52 PM
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6. I'm in CA, but I had mine rescheduled the day I was to be there.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:04 PM
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7. You should be able to quickly resolve this, with the proper evidence.
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 07:05 PM by TexasObserver
You should be able to handle this administratively with the clerk of the court, without ever seeing a judge. I would prepare a written statement where you might start with "I have not lived in your county since the __ day of ___, 20__. I moved to (your new address and county here) on the __ day of ___, 20__. On Tuesday, June 29, 2010, I first received the attached notice from the court, which notice had been forwarded to me at my new address. I understand that I am no longer in the jury pool as I no longer live in your county. I would like to be excused from appearing on July 6th, as I am scheduled to leave the United States for a trip starting Saturday, July 3rd. A copy of my airline ticket is attached. Thank you for your help and consideration."

You chose wisely finding out now. You must address this tomorrow or Friday, and get resolution. I think you'll succeed.

Does your license reflect your new address? They may ask to see it. Take a copy of your lease at your new location, or some evidence that is your residence (envelopes of bills sent there will help.)

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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:06 PM
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8. Call them and get an extension.
Most courts will let you do that.

Or just say you're insane and that will exempt you. But you might need proof.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:20 PM
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10. i LOVE jury duty... these are our courts and our civic duty. not casting aspersions- just sayin' n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:06 PM
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26. self delete as moot
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 08:39 PM by TexasObserver
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:25 PM
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32. .
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:12 PM by stlsaxman

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:34 PM
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34. The essence of your comment was "well then don't, you shouldn't."
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 08:42 PM by TexasObserver
You put your finger on something important that people need to understand about jury duty. It's primarily performed by people who couldn't get out of jury duty and/or didn't want to.

People who have jobs that will pay them while they're on jury duty are the ones who most try to get on juries. People who have their own business hate being on a jury. People who get paid only when they work hate jury duty. People who have school or training hate jury duty.

People who are retired often like to serve on a jury. People who have government jobs often like to serve on juries.

A jury is not a cross section of the community. It is a cross section of people who wouldn't or couldn't get out of jury duty.

I like juries fine, but the biggest losers love being jurors, because they finally get to decide something more important than what to watch on TV. One such juror is one too many, and they get into the box too often, usually by lying during voir dire.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:51 PM
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36. .
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:13 PM by stlsaxman
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:53 PM
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37. It's not a compliment or a criticism of you.
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:24 PM by TexasObserver
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:06 PM
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38. .
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:13 PM by stlsaxman
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:11 PM
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39. .
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:14 PM by stlsaxman
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:40 PM
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15. Which part do you love?
The never knowing if they need you from day to day? The showing up, waiting, doing nothing, and going home?

I've never been picked to be on a jury. Which has made it an incredible waste of time.

I'd like to see the process somehow streamlined.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:55 PM
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21. been there- done that... waited and not called, too.... but IF someone picked before you is found
not qualified- you being there to replace them is just as important as getting picked for a jury.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:06 PM
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25. Streamlining the process...
There was talk in my area (state or county, I can't remember which) about having "professional jurors", which I think would be a great idea.

Have people who really WANT to be on a jury do it.


If I were involved in a court case, I really would not want to have it decided by people who didn't give a shit.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:13 PM
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29. I have often thought it would be a good idea
to have professional jurors!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:35 PM
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35. That's about the worst idea I've ever heard
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:45 PM
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16. Enough to cancel a trip with no notice?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:53 PM
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19. Never had to do that- courts will work with you if you do likeways.
Call 'em up and explain.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:55 PM
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20. Exactly
Which is why I didn't quite understand your initial response. I read the question as "what to do" not a generic "how can I get out of it", but may have missed something!
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:00 PM
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23. I understood it as "what to do", also... hence my "not casting aspersions".
:hi:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:58 PM
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22. Same here, but nobody wants me.
Ex Guardian ad Litem volunteer, anti-death penalty has gotten me excused every single time. Our county courts are very small so they recognize me right away. I'd love to actually serve one day instead of waiting around for nothing.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:05 PM
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24. In the "big city" here i can be anonymous as "Juror #269"... and actually serve on a case.
it's pretty awesome- move to a big city... it's fun! ;)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:33 PM
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11. i was in africa last time i was called for jury duty
i never knew abt until months later

there is nothing you can do, the jury duty "lottery" lives in a fantasy world where people don't travel or, if they do travel, they can afford to buy high priced last minute tickets (to leave at the last minute on my trip -- less than 30 days out, which is when the jury duty lottery STARTS -- would be something like $20K, a price i could never pay for a trip)

i called them and said, look i was in africa w. no phone, what am i supposed to do?

she said, well, we'll just put your name back in the lottery

i explained that i travel monthly, buying my tix AT LEAST 6 weeks in advance and usually further out in advance--"if you do the drawing for jury duty only 30 days out, then i will ALWAYS be out of town on those dates, can't you just put me down for some dates when i know i'm here?"

they couldn't do it, so fuck 'em

to this day every time "i've been served" i've been on some foreign continent and i can prove it so fuck em

they don't just want me to be a slave, to serve on a jury for a week without pay, for only lunch money, THEY WANT ME TO DO IT AT THEIR PLEASURE AND GIVE UP MY ONE AND ONLY LIFE SITTING AT HOME WAITING TO BE SERVED

fuck em

go ahead and live yr life and if you're not there, when you're served, just phone em and see where it goes from there

nobody has thrown in me jail yet, they must kinda know the way they do it is just WRONG
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:34 PM
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12. It varies by state or court or some such.
Some jurisdictions make it easy to reschedule, others not so much.

But do call immediately.

I am under the impression that many courts do not get very exercised over a citizen missing a jury duty summons.

The one and only time I was called for jury duty (and I really, really would love to serve on a jury) during the lunch recess one prospective juror simply left, and the judge didn't seem overly concerned. Possibly because there were more than enough prospective jurors to make the twelve plus alternates.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:36 PM
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14. I think there are state to state differences.
I got called in May; my notice comes with a form to request being excused, for a limited number of reasons, and to request being rescheduled.

I requested to be rescheduled in July, when I'm not working (I'm a teacher.) I'm rescheduled for 2 weeks starting July 13th.

You don't have time to fill out forms. Call them ASAP tomorrow morning.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:50 PM
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18. Definitely call. I heard a horror story at work a few weeks ago.
A co-worker's DH blew off the notice. Local court issued a bench warrant. In order to not face fines, he had to get 100 signatures of people who attested to the fact that he told them why he was collecting 100 signatures (for blowing off jury duty). I am an introvert and as such would probably just pay the fine. LOL!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:09 PM
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27. That is what can happen, and why ignoring a jury notice is playing with fire.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:11 PM
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28. It was mailed to the wrong address
so... :shrug:
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USArmyParatrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:16 PM
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30. I'm pretty sure NOTHING will happen
I'm exempt from jury duty because I'm active duty, but I did receive jury duty orders. I never bothered to tell them I'm military and nothing came of it. This is in CA and it was years ago.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:19 PM
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31. It would help if you told us where you live
Procedures for jury selection and jury duty vary not only from state to state, but also from county to county. I live in Santa Clara County, California, which has a reasonably civilized approach to jury duty: I just got a notice of upcoming jury duty last week, and it included a form to be sent back if you needed a postponement (no questions asked why, just date available) or if you couldn't serve for other reasons (like being dead). It also has contact information.

Along with other posters, I suggest you contact them (is there an email contact?) now and tell them you moved and are no longer eligible to serve in your former county.

BTW, some counties, like mine, use DMV lists rather than voter registrations for the jury pool.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:30 PM
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33. Depending on where you are, you should have little problem
dealing with this. In most jurisdictions, potential jurors are chosen from voter registration lists or drivers license records. There are potential pools which can contain quite a few people, and once a pool is called up, (in my area), they will not be pulled up again for 5 years, (except during an emergency). The main thing is to upgrade your information so they can get a hold of you.

I've sat on 2 juries, enjoyed them both, although the longer winded atty's are a bit of a drag. I can't speak for everyone, but I find jury duty fascinating and a chance to see how the legal world really works. It is a civic duty that we can all afford to spend some time on, and are generally happy when a jury hears our case, as opposed to a judge. In one case that involved marijuana, all but one individual thought the states case was bogus, but that one held us up for quite some time. I discussed jury nullification, how a jury can actually rescind a law that the jury finds unfair or overbearing. It took some time, but we reached a verdict of "not guilty", and the youth was set free. No previous charges, he was 18, there was an excellent possibility that the pot was planted on the kid, (2 joints). The system works when you work with it. All of us should find the time to do our civic duty...one never knows if they might be pleading their case before a jury in the future. My guess is, you will be thankful they took the time to sit there and hear your side of the case.

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 06:05 PM
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40. Don't leave us hanging. How did it go?
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