Are we going to have the Gore discussion?

[monmouth]

I'm surprised with this hitting the news that such little discussion is going on. I don't have the TV on so don't know if any talk is going on there or not...

Anyway:...http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/the_gore_allegations_what_you_need_to_know.php?ref=fpb

[EOTE]

1. We've been having it.

And it seems like the general consensus is that the accuser is full of shit. From what I've read of this story, I agree with the general consensus.

[Old and In the Way]

8. Read an interesting comment over at TPM

Apparently, the 'victim's' affidavit claims Gore was listening to Pink's "Dear Mr. President". If so, Gore would have to have gotten an advance copy as this incident took place months before the song was released. I'm skeptical...but I was also skeptical about the John Edward's story when that 1st broke....we'll have to see how this plays out. I won't be losing any sleep over it, though.

[EOTE]

9. Yeah, she's definitely got ulterior motives here.

She skipped out on 3 hearings that she was supposed to attend and then claimed that she was only interested in pursuing a civil suit. Then she has the nerve to say that she's pursuing this for justice, not for money. If that were the case, I don't see why she'd only be interested in a civil suit.

[karynnj]

22. It was on an April 2006 album

(I have a 19 year old who liked Pink)
So that's not true - but it doesn't make the story true. The police response was that there was not sufficient proof.

I am surprised that it is so quickly in Time, the NYT and the Washington Post. As the police took no action, he is not in public office or running for one, this seems wrong.
It could be just an embarrassing story based on a lie.

[musette_sf]

26. agreed

I read the most recent "affidavit" by this person, and she seems to be 200% Bat Sh!t Crazy in the Narcissism/Borderline Personality Disorder category.

[DURHAM D]

2. A story like this would have been interesting a decade ago.

Now - not so much.

[haikugal]

3. No

[gateley]

4. I only heard of it in passing on the radio. I haven't read about it but figure if

this was true, we would have heard it way before now plus heard a lot more stories.

[monmouth]

5. I'm wondering if she was looking for a payout, got turned down and

now decided to go public.

[customerserviceguy]

19. The story wouldn't have had any value

before Al and Tipper announced their split. She looks like she's going for a second bite of the apple.

[Dappleganger]

6. Not really interested.

Not by bidness.

[shraby]

7. Why should we? It's a personal thing between him and

his wife if there is any there, there.

[earth mom]

10. The story reads like a really bad novel-it sounds totally made up.

It could very easily be a planned attack by those who hate Gore, of which there are many. :puke:

[kpete]

11. i love Al Gore

always have,
end of story,
peace, kp

[Bitwit1234]

12. ME TOO aqnd I can say

there is no way this straight laced man did all the things this woman said. It must have taken her a long time to get some republican to finance this put up job. And when it is proven false, I think someone should sue her ass off.

[hamsterjill]

43. Me, too.

I refuse to diminish this man's contribution to the world at large based on some malicious information being perpetuated simply to tarnish his reputation.

I still think Al is one of the few "genuine" ones left!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. According to the news this morning, she's kept a pair of pants with DNA evidence.

:popcorn:

[grasswire]

16. evidence of what?

She doesn't claim any way there could be semen.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. What evidence? Top evidence.

:popcorn:

[Little Star]

18. I heard that too. Not my business but if that is true

watch for a real side show by republicans! YUK! I hope it's a false rumor.

[Rob H.]

25. According to her own statements

in this article, she didn't keep anything with DNA evidence on it. It'll be interesting to see whether she changes her story again. Note, also, the final sentence of the final paragraph:

"I did not immediately call the police as I feared being made into a public spectacle and my reputation being destroyed," she said. "I was not sure what to tell them and was concerned my story would not be believed since there was no DNA evidence from a completed act of rape. I did not even know what to call what had happened to me."

Detective Mary Wheat, a Portland police spokeswoman, said the woman contacted detectives this month and asked for a copy of her statement. The woman, according to Wheat, said she planned to take her case to the media.

Emphases added by me.

[Dawson Leery]

14. It sounds like some wealthy right wing activist put her up to this nonsense.

[AtomicKitten]

15. This delayed accusation reeks. I'll bet it's just another shot at Gore from anti-environmentalists.

[karynnj]

24. The timing is interesting on that - as the Senate makes a final push to

have something that prices carbon in the bill. Gore would be one voice to rally support.

[Radical Activist]

20. I didn't feel a "Need to Know" any of that

despite TPM's ridiculous suggestion that I did.

[lumberjack_jeff]

21. A private citizen is rumored to have propositioned a $500 massage therapist?

I'm shocked!

[bobbolink]

23. Maybe we've grown beyond the point of needing to "discuss" the personal lives

of prominent people?

[karynnj]

27. Yes and no

If the accusation were like Rielle and Edwards, where it was consensual sex, in Gore's case that is true - he is not running for anything. However if this outlandish story - that the police don't believe - were solid, then there is a problem. (ie let's say it were said to happen last night and the people in the next rooms spoke of her screaming at him to get off her etc - then there would be a problem - and likely a law broken. A woman always has the right to say no - and have anything stop. (Same goes with the guy)

But, the story is NOT believable. If there was nothing or if this $500 massage was more than a therapeutic massage, there should be no story.

[monmouth]

32. It certainly didn't look that way during the Tiger, Vitter, Ensign, etc. events...LOL...n/t

[bobbolink]

37. Because that was a reaction to their ugly hypocracy.

On the other hand, there was the VERY ugly, and very bitterly political, reaction to Edwards.

[Toucano]

28. Frustrated Romance novelists write better junk than that.

Truly fantastic and ridiculous.

[Missy Vixen]

35. Most romance novelists aren't "frustrated"

Romance readers have 74% more sex than the average woman, according to Psychology Today. Imagine what that stat is for those who write them.

I might also add that "forced sex" is not a popular plot device in today's romance novels.

Sincerely,
your local romance author

[Toucano]

38. LOL! I actually didn't mean "romantically frustrated"

I was thinking about someone who was frustrated finding a publisher, an audience. I think the image of the "frustrated author" occurs more commonly in regard their success rather than their love lives.

However, I can't legitimately extrapolate data about the sex lives of romance novel authors from a study about romance novel readers. They're two distinct subsets, so "imagine" is all we can actually do.

But maybe you were trying to suggest I should congratulate you? ;)

[Missy Vixen]

45. I understand your comment about the "subsets"

and extrapolating the study material on to authors. When one stops to consider that 99% of those who write romance novels are also readers of romance novels (for market research/sheer enjoyment), the same statistics might apply.

Back to the actual subject of the thread: I don't know what happened to the woman in question, but she allegedly called Al Gore a "crazed sex poodle". I couldn't come up with that one on my most purple-prose day. You might have something there!

:woohoo:

[lunatica]

29. The part about him being "Mr. Stone" just makes me bust out laughing

Like no one would recognize Al Gore, even with Groucho Marx glasses and a moustache.

[Jennicut]

30. It seems devoid of legitimacy but I guess we never know.

I don't really buy it and Gore has zero rep for this type of thing.

[2Design]

31. bs - just someone who wants money and with the dislike of gore and

treating him like crap even with a noble prize - people just want to trash him, just like dean

[Brozilla]

33. gawd do we have too?

why can't has-been politicians just fade to black

[krabigirl]

34. I think she's lying.

[petronius]

36. We could, but what's the point? The story as it stands doesn't really pass the smell test...

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Frankly, I'm having trouble envisioning any of it.

Beyond that, the man is innocent until proven guilty.

[hedgehog]

40. Why?

[SmileyRose]

41. Al Gore a Sex poodle and a big lummox????

"I squirmed to try and get out of his grasp, telling him to stop, don't, several times and I finally told him and said, You're being a crazed sex poodle"

"Get off me, you big lummox!"

Rape, or attempted rape is very serious. I was on the receiving end once and somehow the word's "lummox" and "poodle" didn't readily pop to mind. But that's just me and I'm not a $500 an hour massage therapist that visits hotel rooms at midnight.

[madamesilverspurs]

42. Ye gods.

Who wrote this woman's script, Linda Tripp?


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[murdoch]

44. Why all the Al Gore rumours recently?

A few weeks ago there were the anonymous rumours he was having an affair with Larry David's wife.

Now some woman who charges hundreds an hour to massage men for a living claims YEARS after the fact that Gore made "violent" sexual advances to her.

I am very skeptical.

Funny how BP has a massive oil spill and suddenly the rumour mills start pouring out about Gore, who has been so tough on BP.

Right after one of the biggest environmental disasters in who knows how long, does the media start attacking Gore all over the place on his personal life. So when he gets on TV to talk about BP, they ask him if he's screwing Laurie David or making "violent" sexual advances against masseuses who charge hundreds an hour.

[TexasObserver]

46. It sounds like a completely fraudulent story ala Juanita Broaddrick.

A bullshit story made up by GOP operatives to besmirch a Democratic politician.