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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:03 AM
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Obama Administration Approves 448 New Drill Leases for Gulf of Mexico
Source: Mother Jones

At his long-awaited press conference on the Gulf oil disaster last month, President Obama announced a moratorium on new oil drilling and exploration for six months. "We can't do this stuff if we don't have confidence that we can prevent crises like this from happening again," he declared. But while existing rigs may be out of commission for the near future, the administration hasn't exactly put the brakes on new oil and gas drilling ventures. In recent weeks, the government has quietly approved the sale of more than 400 new leases for vast swaths of the Gulf of Mexico. And these contractswhich mark the first step in the drilling processwere subjected to the same slapdash environmental oversight that failed to prevent the BP catastrophe.

The region was included in a plan created by the Bush administration's Department of the Interior to lease new areas of the Gulf to the oil and gas industries. But it was Obama's Interior secretary, Ken Salazar, who gave the go-ahead for the sale of Lease 2136,800 tracts covering 36 million acres off the coasts of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama in November 2009. The salewhich was held on March 17 this year in the New Orleans Superdomeattracted $1.3 billion in bids. Since then, the Department of the Interior's Minerals Management Service (MMS) has approved the sale of 448 of those tracts, 198 of them in deepwater, which is defined as more than 656 feet below the sea. BP is the proud new leaser of 13 of those tracts.

The lease sale is the first step in the oil drilling process. Companies must first obtain the right to drill the tracts before they can devise exploration plans, which must be approved by MMS.

And that's where the problem lies. MMS has been notorious for rubber-stamping the oil industry's plans. The lease for the well that's spewing oil into the Gulf, the Macondo, was sold in March 2008. The exploration plan for that well was granted a "categorical exclusion" from the requirements of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) in April 2009, paving the way for drilling to begin.

Earlier, in April 2007, MMS completed a 924-page Multisale Environmental Impact Statement for the Gulf regioncovering both the site of the Deepwater disaster and these new tracts leased by the government. The statement projects that an "estimated 2-3 blowouts could occur" in the central Gulf in an average year, but significantly downplays the potential impact of a large spill. Most blowouts have a "short duration, and half of blowouts lasted less than half a day," the statement says, projecting that a large spill would only "acutely threaten recreational beaches for up to 30 days." The document also states that a large spill would only have a 23 to 25 percent risk of harming the waters of western Louisiana.

more: http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/06/new-drilling...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:47 AM
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1. 198 of them in deepwater. This is no way to prevent future accidents.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:24 AM
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85. Yikes! That is patently insane. Money trumps everything, it appears. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:40 AM
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88. Bush said money trumps peace. .
Now we can say money trumps the planet
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:49 AM
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2. Live and don't learn...
(live for a while, anyway)
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:09 PM
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53. Live and let die
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:06 AM
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3. You better follow Obama's advice..start praying..not that that will do a fucking thing..but it keeps
you busy and keeps you from paying too much attention to what these crooks are all doing to you and this nation of ours!

Maybe you can pray that a Walrus shows up in the Gulf.

Or our fish in the Gulf doesn't all die from contamination!

Or maybe you could pray that the pres stops selling this nation out!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:19 AM
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4. We should pray, bend over and kiss our asses goodbye.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 05:03 PM
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73. +
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:29 AM
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9. No, no, you don't understand! Obama's DA MAN!
He got Bigass Polluter to ante up 20 billion dollars! That should take care of everything!

I'm sure I don't need this, but
:sarcasm:
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:44 PM
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67. Hmmmm, wonder how much of a cut.......
....Obama gets from that 20 billion?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:03 AM
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80. +1
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:21 AM
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5. We reap what we sow.
:-(

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:21 AM
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6. As of June 11, 2010, only 85 were deemed acceptable
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 09:22 AM by berni_mccoy
http://www.gomr.mms.gov/homepg/lsesale/213/213ph1letter...

I do not know if these accepted bids were in deepwater or not.

These are also accepted bids, not approval for drilling. These are bids on leases.

The moratorium is on deepwater drilling.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:56 AM
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17. There is only one reason to accept a bid..you are playing fast and furious to cover their asses! eom
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:00 AM
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18. I'm reporting a fact. That fact is that before drilling can occur, a drilling operation must be
approved. Accepting a bid on a lease does not give permission to drill.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:07 AM
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19. this is a fact as well!
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:08 AM by flyarm
MMS has been notorious for rubber-stamping the oil industry's plans. The lease for the well that's spewing oil into the Gulf, the Macondo, was sold in March 2008. The exploration plan for that well was granted a "categorical exclusion" from the requirements of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) in April 2009, paving the way for drilling to begin.

BP is the proud new leaser of 13 of those "NEW" tracts.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:10 AM
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22. Yes, in March, prior to Obama's moratorium on deepwater drilling.
How many are deepwater by the way?

And furthermore, Obama has already stated that MMS fucked up and he's going to reorganize it.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:20 AM
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23. I guess you didn't bother to read the article did you? But I am not surprised of that fact..
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:21 AM by flyarm
This article was written for JUne 17th..today..........

Thu Jun. 17, 2010 2:25 AM PDT

At his long-awaited press conference on the Gulf oil disaster last month, President Obama announced a moratorium on new oil drilling and exploration for six months. "We can't do this stuff if we don't have confidence that we can prevent crises like this from happening again," he declared. But while existing rigs may be out of commission for the near future, the administration hasn't exactly put the brakes on new oil and gas drilling ventures. In recent weeks,the government has quietly approved the sale of more than 400 new leases for vast swaths of the Gulf of Mexico. And these contractswhich mark the first step in the drilling processwere subjected to the same slapdash environmental oversight that failed to prevent the BP catastrophe.



recent weeks is not 3 months ago!!!!!!!!!!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:23 AM
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25. Reading comprehension might help you. A lease is not an approval to drill.
And I cited March in response to your bullshit post about approvals to drill being given out in March... BEFORE the Moratorium on deepwater drilling.

Your intentionally confusing leases with drilling approval, which is spreading of misinformation.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:30 AM
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28. I live on the now destroyed Gulf ..I fully understand that and have worked for years and years
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:30 AM by flyarm
trying to stop these fucking leases!

Come have shit in your back yard and tell me about reading comprehension..and breathe our fucking stinking air !

I know damn well what these leases end up being and doing..I am living with the fucking results of it!

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:31 AM
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29. You're entitled to your outrage. But not to make up facts.
But facts are facts. The OP is factually incorrect.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:39 AM
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30. how bout these facts..the very day Obama signed off on drill baby drill
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:40 AM by flyarm
hundreds of Democrats and enviornmentalists were protesting Newt in Fla ..because he was in Fla supporting new leases for drilling in the Gulf..much to the surprise and anger and distain of protesting DEMOCRATS....Obama at very same time Democrats were protesting Newt..the same time ...was shitting on his campaign promise to us in Fla that there would be no new leases and no new drilling!

I didn't break my promise..Obama did!

And made the democrats here look like fools!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:42 AM
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32. Doesn't change the fact that the OP is incorrect and even misleading.
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:46 AM by berni_mccoy
And Obama actually campaigned on drilling domestically as part of a larger energy plan.

From his campaign: "Oil companies have access to 68 million acres of land, over 40 million offshore, which they are not drilling on. Drilling in open areas could significantly increase domestic oil and gas production."
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:42 AM
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33. It isn't incorrect.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:45 AM
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34. Its says: 448 new leases were approved. Yet, only 85 were actually accepted
See the link from my response that starts this long sub-thread.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:49 AM
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39. I went to your link and it says "As of April 13, 2010" 85 had been approved.
That was two months ago.

I don;t see where you got the date June 11?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:52 AM
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45. You missread it. It's June 11th. Follow the link
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:55 AM by berni_mccoy
Sorry, I see what you are seeing. The document says April, but if you go here:

http://www.gomr.mms.gov/homepg/lsesale/213/cgom213.html

Go to the bottom, it was updated as of June 11th.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:03 PM
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49. Here is the link to the June 11 update. 448 bids accepted. The OP is correct.
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 12:18 PM by tekisui
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:14 PM
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55. I stand corrected on the number, thanks. But the implication of the OP is still incorrect
That these somehow violate the moratorium or go counter to what Obama has recently stated about drilling. An acceptable lease is not a sale (that is the sales are not final). Furthermore, it's not an approval to drill.

Obama did not say he was going to end Drilling. He said he would reorg the MMS and would not allow deepwater drilling until better safety standards had been put in place.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:50 AM
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41. One of the main points of the article:
"And that's where the problem lies. MMS has been notorious for rubber-stamping the oil industry's plans."

1. Oil company acquires lease.
2. Oil company proposes plan to drill.
3. MMS fakes oversight and approves plan.

That's how it works. Your feeble defense of this is shameful - all to deflect negativity from your Dear Leader.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:58 AM
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47. Obama has already said the same thing about MMS. He even called it out in his Oval Office Address
That is the reason for the Moratorium and the reason he is reorganizing the MMS.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:18 PM
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65. Obama is becoming well known for saying one thing
and doing the polar opposite. Have you heard one word about MMS employees being fired? NO. He's putting the same oil company hacks back into their old positions, just separating their responsibilities - slightly. No real changes are taking place. He's still just shilling for the oil companies as he has been since March.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 02:36 PM
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62. It is funny because you're trying to pass your opinion as a "fact"
Saying "you're wrong" without providing any reference to back up your assertion is you expressing an opinion as if it were a fact. Which is what you're chastising others for, a mighty hypocritical attitude. Projection is funny that way...
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 02:02 AM
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77. This seems to be splitting hairs.

Putting a moratorium on drilling means you're doing nothing to lease out areas for new drilling. That's the simple understanding. For Obama to play it any other way is to attempt to trick the liberal-progressives, who want very much to be fooled. Period. It's not made better when this is a different part of the procedure than the one he said he'd stop. It's called misdirection, it's called trying to have it both ways, and it's dishonest.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:02 PM
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48. Most of the ones approved on you link are deepwater.
All of Keathley Canyon.
All of Walker Ridge.
All of Mississippi Canyon.
All of Atwater Valley.
All of Green Canyon.

A few aren't offshore, but most are.



See map here to tell which one's from your link are deepwater:

http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Central_Gulf_of_Mexico_Lease_...
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:31 PM
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61. Shouldn't all drilling approved by the previous MMS be stopped until ...
... the new MMS goes through all the papers all over again?

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:09 AM
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20. as their disinformation campaign slogs on, eh?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:09 AM by dionysus
:rofl:
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:21 AM
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24. inorite?!
It's like there is no reading comprehension here. People see lease and go ape shit turning that into approval for drilling. It's either sub-level intelligence or a direct attempt to spread misinformation.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:45 AM
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35. Why continue the process that lead to drilling?
Why continue to fast-track and rubber stamp the procedure that lead to offshore drilling?

I wonder how many lease approvals end without a drilling permit? I bet the number is low.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:47 AM
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37. A Moratorium on deepwater drilling until better standards are in place is a start.
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:48 AM by berni_mccoy
But drilling for oil isn't going away until 350 million Americans stop consuming 20% of the world's oil.

And Obama has already invested more in renewables than any administration in history. Furthermore, he announced in his Oval Office Address that there will be a far larger investment.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:49 AM
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40. There are no 'better standards' worth this risk.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:51 AM
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44. Obama agrees that even better standards won't remove the risk. He said so in his Oval Office Address
The better standards can only reduce the risk.

That's why he's calling for Americans to reduce consumption and is going to be putting forth a far larger investment in renewables.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:06 PM
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51. If we cannot remove the risk, we should be doing it. Period.
No excuses, no apologies.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:15 PM
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56. You'll have a problem explaining that to Americans who's way of living currently depend on it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:18 PM
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58. I understand that.
But, it comes a point where we have to be bold and say, sorry the show's over. Let the current deepwater drilling leases expire on time (after careful safety inspections and oversight), and let's not start new ones. They can still drill in the shallow waters, where the risk isn't as great. They can drill on their land holdings. We have to draw the line somewhere, though.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:23 PM
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60. On that, I agree.
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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 08:01 AM
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89. By Renewables
you include nuclear? Most Americans and a majority of Democrats are opposed to nuclear power.
John McCain wanted more nuclear and more off shore drilling and we voted for the other guy and look what we got.

Nine billion dollars in loan guarantees which the congressional budget office say have a 50% chance of failure.

Great Britain has a wind energy policy to be completed by 2020. enough wind energy to power every home in the country.

Germany has a program of wind energy that has been so effective that the power grid is having trouble keeping up and the power company has paid people to keep their lights burning.

Germany also has an experimental Geothermal power plant about to go on line.

An EU consortium wants to build the world's largest solar plant in the Sahara Desert.

In Australia Geothermal plants are all ready on line an the governments policy is full steam ahead. (pun intended)

An Island community in Denmark once had a ship docking each week to deliver Diesel fuel. They went to wind energy and converted what was left over from their crops to bio-diesel and no more fuel delivery's. Now the postman brings them annual checks of around $10,000 for the excess energy they sell to the mainland.

What countries want to build nuclear power?

Iran, China, India and the United States

What country in the world has the largest wind energy reserves? The US!
What country in the world has the largest solar power potential? The US!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:50 AM
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43. I bet not. I can't speak to offshore drilling
...but I can tell you, having followed them religiously when I lived in their shadow in Western Colorado, I'd say roughly 5% of competitive bid leases lead to application for drilling permits, and maybe 1 in 10 of those resulted in actual drilling taking place.

The leases are relatively cheap, and the same six or seven companies hit the auctions and gobbled up anything remotely worthwhile. And I do mean "remotely."

None of which excuses the above, BTW. Just interested in a fact-based conversation, silly me.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:07 PM
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52. Thanks,Robb.
I honestly didn't know. I may try to dig up some numbers. It shouldn't be too hard to find the number of approved deepwater leases and compare it to the number of those leases that have well operating or in development.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:42 AM
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31. This is evidence that it is business as usual.
The moratorium on offshore drilling will expire (probably before the leak is plugged) and it will be back to the same practices that caused this disaster.

These approvals just show that we are going to keep on keeping on. And, I do not accept that adequate safety measures can be put in place to prevent accidents. The accidents, however low the probability, carry far too great a risk.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:50 AM
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42. Again, you don't have the facts.
The moratorium isn't on offshore drilling. It's on deepwater drilling, and it's there until revised safety standards and regulations are in place.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:05 PM
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50. Sorry, I meant deepwater drilling.
And, it stands. Deepwater drilling cannot be made safe enough for the risk.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:39 AM
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91. You're 100% correct.
The BOP that can handle the excessive pressures in deep water wells hasn't even been invented yet.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:10 PM
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54. Wake up. Put Country first.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:23 AM
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7. DRILL BABY DRILL!
It's OK when our people do it.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:26 AM
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8. Insanity. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:31 AM
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10. oops, better take mine down.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:34 AM
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11. Nice move there. Some company must have found out how to stop oil gushers in 5000+ feet of ocean
right? :sarcasm:

Actions really do speak louder than words.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:55 AM
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12. Lesson not learned. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 02:44 PM
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63. +
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alterfurz Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 09:58 AM
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13. well, with the entire Gulf fast becoming a dead zone...
...soon it won't matter much what we do there anymore?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:10 AM
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21. Precisely n/t
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:46 AM
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36. That was the other reason
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:51 AM by tiptoe


I suspected CEO Hayward was stalling a quick fix, the other being to allow hurricane(s) to do the job of "dispersing" BP liability.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 10:52 AM
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15. This says more to me about this administration's response
than any corporate deal does. :grr:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:23 AM
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26. Indeed.
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 11:24 AM by tekisui
And, don't for a second think there wasn't a 'deal'. BP didn't cough up $20+ billion without getting something.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 12:44 AM
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76. +1
BP didn't cough up $20+ billion without getting something.

No shit

:puke:
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:42 AM
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92. Brings back fond memories of HCR
and the deals cut with Pharma behind closed doors.

I so long for the good old days, don't you?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 05:00 PM
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72. As always; deeds, not words.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:24 AM
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27. "drill, baby, drill" redux
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:48 AM
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38. This is how we know it's all a lie.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 11:57 AM
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46. The Gulf of Texaco is fucked already.
Might as well fill it up the rest of the way. At least five states economies will be dead as a door nail. Think about the implications of that.

The air in Manhattan is safe to breathe.

Nuclear power is safe.

The spill will be plugged by the end of the year.

BP and the feds are telling the truth.

ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:44 PM
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68. 'Gulf of Texaco' - Perfect.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:44 AM
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93. Notice they didn't specify which year they're talking about. n/t
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:17 PM
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57. Do the individual States have any say in this process?
I'm guessing these leases are in territorial waters (or some such designation).

Or do the individual states profit from these leases?

Somebody teach me how this works.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 12:22 PM
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59. But, but, but the Gulf of Mexico never loved Obama to begin with.
nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:08 PM
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64. Deleted message
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:23 PM
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66. White House spin will not make this go away
Thanks for posting this, Tekisui
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 03:51 PM
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69. Incredibly fucked up.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:26 PM
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70. Another corporate action by a corporate administration
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 04:32 PM by Individualist
An indefensible action. :grr:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 04:29 PM
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71. Just horrible, K&R
Edited on Thu Jun-17-10 04:31 PM by quinnox
No words. All the Obama cheerleading and spin in the world can't make this look good, judging from all the deleted messages they are not happy!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-10 08:20 PM
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:20 AM
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84. +1 Well said. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 12:41 AM
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75. D.L.C. must go. (nt)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 03:10 AM
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78. We have a full blown disaster still ongoing and he sells more leases?
He's making himself appear to be either weak or a liar.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:03 AM
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79. What is left of the Gulf is going to be like the Caspian Sea ....
Surrounded by drilling platforms and full of the toxic chemicals they dump. What in Hell can survive this?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:04 AM
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81. k and r
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:06 AM
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82. Of course we're going to keep drilling for oil
We all have cars, heat and A/C, come on, most rigs do not have accidents. It's unreasonable to expect the drilling to stop completely just because of this accident. What is the point of being so snide and unreasonable?

We need alternative sources of energy and developing that is what we need to do. That takes time. There needs to be a gradual changeover.



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 10:05 AM
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90. No deepwater drilling. It is absurd to even entertain that prospect further.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:20 AM
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83. Doesn't matter, the Gulf will be a tar pit by this time next
year anyway.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:27 AM
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86. Whee!
That is all.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:39 AM
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87. Didn't he learn anything from the Oil Volcano in the Gulf of Mexico?
We have oil spewing in the Gulf of Mexico with no end in sight and President Obama approves more wells. What The Flying Fuck? These greedy bastards won't be happy until all life is wiped out in the Gulf.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 11:15 AM
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94. K&R!
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:45 PM
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95. insane in the membrane

:nuke:
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