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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:46 AM
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Sand drives Army to ditch Velcro on pants


Army soldiers keep their eyes in the direction of two Taliban fighters May 8 in Afghanistan's Kandahar province.


Sand drives Army to ditch Velcro on pants
By Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON The Army is ripping space-age Velcro from its uniforms and replacing it with the humble button, which turns out to be tailor-made for the rigors of Afghanistan.

Hook-and-pile tape the generic term for Velcro strains to keep jam-packed cargo pants pockets closed. And when the Taliban attacks, the last thing soldiers need to worry about is spilling their gear.

Soldiers told superiors that Velcro didn't suit their needs, and the Army began testing alternatives last year, said Debi Dawson, an Army spokeswoman. In August, the Army will begin issuing new pants to soldiers heading to Afghanistan.

"When concerns surfaced in surveys that the hook-and-pile tape was not holding under the weight of full pocket loads, the Army evaluated several solutions," Dawson said. Velcro has been part of the latest Army combat uniform since it was introduced in 2004.

Dirt and rocks also clog the pile portion of the fastener. That requires soldiers to clean it regularly. An Army website offersthis helpful hint: a soldier's small weapons cleaning brush has been "working very well" in removing dirt and sand.



unhappycamper comment: Who could have known that sand and velcro don't mix well?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:31 AM
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1. You know what worked really well in sand and dirt when I was in the Army?
Buttons. :) :) :)
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:31 AM
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2. SNAFU

still applies, eh?
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:42 AM
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3. Velcro was tried on optional clothing/equipment in the past
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 08:43 AM by itsrobert
and it was a failure. I don't know why the Army thought it was going to be any different this time.

Maybe it's made by the same people who thought issuing everyone in the Army a beret was a good idea.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:48 AM
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5. It probably was. It LOOKS so cool. n/t
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 08:47 AM
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4. Soldiers have been saying that since the DAY the ACU was released.
You can tell ACU was designed by someone who spent his/her entire career in air conditions clean Pentagon offices.

Our unit got supplied ACU when we were in Baghdad. We continued to use DCU until we were ordered to change. DCU held up a lot better under the rough conditions. Worse DCU for 9 months, wore the ACU for about 2. When I go stateside both looked equally trashed.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:00 AM
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6. Cat and dog hair do a number on Velcro too!
And THAT shit can't be cleaned with a brush!

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:03 AM
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7. Velcro makes a distinguishable noise when unfastening.



There are times when noise is not a good thing.



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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 10:11 AM
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8. Here's a better idea.. get the soldiers out of sandy areas!!!
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 10:11 AM by Moochy
and back to, you know, defense of the nation, instead of Nation building
err ummm.. Maintaining US Empire
:think:
doing whatever makes the most money for defenese contractors.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 11:33 AM
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9. Interesting...
Once upon a time, my dad worked for the dept of sanitation in NYC.

In the early 50's vets were throwing out their old fatigues. He would bring them home and we would wear them when working on cars.

As time wore on, vets from Viet Nam did the same.

I noticed something right away. The new fatigues had velcro on them.

So they are just going back to an old style.

Interesting.
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