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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:50 PM
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Efforts to Repel Gulf Oil Spill Are Described as Chaotic
New York times is running an article criticizing the Feds response to the gulf oil spill, their lack of coordination, and rapid response. I am going to post a few excerpts from the article here...

From the beginning, the effort has been bedeviled by a lack of preparation, organization, urgency and clear lines of authority among federal, state and local officials, as well as BP. As a result, officials and experts say, the damage to the coastline and wildlife has been worse than it might have been if the response had been faster and orchestrated more effectively.


The present system is not working, Senator Bill Nelson of Florida said Thursday at a hearing in Washington devoted to assessing the spill and the response. Oil had just entered Florida waters, Senator Nelson said, adding that no one was notified at either the state or local level, a failure of communication that echoed Mr. Bonanos story and countless others along the Gulf Coast.

The information is not flowing, Senator Nelson said. The decisions are not timely. The resources are not produced. And as a result, you have a big mess, with no command and control.


Leslie Pearson, a private oil-spill response consultant, said federal oversight of spill contingency plans largely amounts to accepting what oil industry operators say they can do, rather than demanding they demonstrate that they can actually do it.

Their plans dont say, Within X amount of time it has to be controlled and industry needs to prove how the heck youre going to do that, she said.



The BP plans do consider an uncontrolled blowout, one that releases 240,000 barrels a day into the gulf for at least 100 days far worse than the current spill.

In the event of such an enormous spill, according to these plans, no significant adverse impacts are expected to beaches, wetlands or coast-dwelling birds.


On the beach at Port Fourchon, Mr. Travirca said, cleanup workers left oil-soaked mops on the beach for days, where the tides buried them in the sand. The workers were finally told to pick up the mops and put them in garbage bags, which they did but not before shaking the mops out and strewing the beach with oil again.


The cleanup operation has also been, at times, a casualty of politics. One staffing agency sent more than 150 trained workers to the Gulf Coast only to be told that in light of local and state insistence on exclusively local employment, too many of the workers were from out of state. They were all let go the next day.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/science/earth/15clean...

Where is the freaking leadership?

:wtf:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 10:52 PM
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1. "lack of urgency" that sure sums it up;
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 10:54 PM by amborin
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:10 PM
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8. yup
and btw, let me take this opportunity to say K and R
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:05 PM
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2. Looks like Bill Nelson ought to be down there working.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:07 PM
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5. I am more outraged by BP's worst case scenario and the assumptions they made
Under which 25 million barrels of oil would spill into the gulf without any significant adverse effects to the beaches or wildlife?!?!

That is like 5 times worse than the biggest oil spill in the history. :wtf:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:17 PM
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9. Why would you believe something like that?
This is the biggest blowout in history, thinking it wouldn't hit the shores is ridiculous.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:35 AM
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15. I hate that kind of accusation.
I think that senators probably have better uses of their time than digging in the sand.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:06 PM
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3. "largely amounts to accepting what oil industry operators say they can do, rather than demanding
they demonstrate that they can actually do it."

that's it in a nutshell.
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Kringle Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:06 PM
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4. look here, to see Obama's response
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:19 PM
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12. Why are you looking to FEMA?
Are people displaced and homeless?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:09 PM
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6. Maybe Obama should call Brownie...
Or really he doesn't need to...his incompetence does not need a scapegoat.

(lay your bets folks on how long this post lasts...5-4-3-2-...)
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:21 PM
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13. Was that the Tarzan yell.....hey look at me?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:10 PM
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7. The Free Market does not care about nature.
Wall Street uses nature then tosses it aside when no longer useful. It is not profitable to fix the leak, so no one does. The government should have been hiring and bringing in the 'best minds' since day one and ON TOP of this from the first minute they heard about it.

If this was still George Bush and Dickhead I would be raking them over the coals and howling mad at the stars! I guess survival of species turned out to be unprofitable so no one cared.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:18 PM
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10. just blame it on Obama. you know that you want to.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:19 PM
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11. LOL
:thumbsup:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:22 PM
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14. Un-Rec the thread if it makes you feel any better
:rofl:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:38 AM
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16. Here's another important quote that I thought was interesting from the article.
Many experts also said that no plan could really fight this leak perfectly, and that the problem was more with the regulations that allowed it to happen in the first place.

I dont think theres a person in the spill world who would have thought that whole thing would be contained and recovered, said Elise DeCola, a response consultant based in Massachusetts.




Are there problems with the spill response? Of course. But I think it's important to remember the size and scope of what we're dealing with here.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 01:57 AM
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17. There has been zero leadership from the begining..it is what we on the Gulf have been saying from
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 01:58 AM by flyarm
the get go!

Or government has been derelict in their responsibility and turned over their responsibility to a foreign Oil Corp!

Our beaches, our air , our air space , our marine life , our wild life has been turned over to a foreign oil corp.

Our Coast Guard , our national guard, our scientists , our wold life rescue people ..have been turned over to a foreign oil corp.

Local and national news media have been blocked from reporting the truth by a foreign oil corp!

This has been a total cover up by our government and a foreign Oil Corp!

We all will pay a very dear price for this negligence!

from a Gulf resident.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 03:35 AM
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18. It's almost as if...
... someone wants it to be as bad as possible.

Who was it that said, "never waste a crisis"?
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