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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:40 PM
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Margaret Thatcher and dementia.
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 06:41 PM by madinmaryland
Regardless of your thoughts about her policies, dementia is an insidious disease that strikes anyone. The results are very disturbing. The person that you knew and loved has become a "person" who has no idea who they are, cannot communicate to anyone, and can barely perform any basic tasks that we take for granted.

After seeing a lot of dementia patients over the last few weeks, it is not a disease I would wish upon anyone.

Sad, just very sad.

Edit to add link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/25/margaret-thatcher-sufferi_n_121133.html



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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:49 PM
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1. My aunt has Alzbeimer's and is being cared for by
my other aunt.

It is very sad to see a person slowly slip away mentally like this and you can't do anything about it.

I don't wish it on anyone.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:56 PM
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6. The hardest part is not being able to do anything about it.
My mom is in the latter stages and it is really tough seeing it happen.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:49 PM
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16. My aunt is the youngest child among her siblings.
She was around 58 when diagnosed.

She was once a very lively, active, outgoing vivacious woman. She never married but had lots of friends, would go out every weekend, entertain at her home (she was a great cook). And she was so independent. She can't even brush her teeth or even eat on her own. In the last year especially she has gone way down.

My other aunt was trying to put sneakers on her the other day. She would tell her "give me this foot" and my aunt would just laugh and have no clue what she was being asked to do.

It is a terrible disease.

I have a really hard time reading posts joking about it or about anyone who had or has it. Even Reagan...
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:51 PM
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2. Quite true. My mother is in late stage Alzheimer's. It sucks. It's a sad way to go.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:43 PM
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15. My father in law had it
He died nearly 30 years ago.

It was horrible. But it was also awful that no one had heard of it, as it was not common 30 years ago. Our friends all said "al's what?"

We also struggled to find care for him. The nursing homes were not equipped to deal with Alzheimers. It took a long time to find one that we liked and that was willing to take him.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:53 PM
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3. I work in an elder care facility, and agree 100%
I don't like Thatcher's policies, her personality, or anything about her; But even so, anyone in this state deserves basic human sympathy.

The last thing this woman needs in her final years, is the Wacky Wasillan stuffing a mounted moose head in her face and going "Hey there ho now, mizz Margie, lookie what I brought'cha!" And Thatcher's Daughter, I think is exploiting her mother. of course, can't expect better of anyone raised by Margaret Thatcher, I guess.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:54 PM
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4. *cough* Ronald Reagan *cough*
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:55 PM
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5. You are correct but Margaret Thatcher's dementia
is only being mentioned because Lady Blah Blah is a fucking LIAR. There is no way she is having any meeting with Margaret Thatcher.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:59 PM
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8. She might be getting the sham photo op....
I haven't seen any denials in the British press yet.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:01 PM
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9. so far........
No meeting agreed to yet, but Palin puppet masters are BEGGING for this to happen. If Rupert Murdoch pays the daughter enough money, it may happen.
Palin using Thatcher as a prop. Why not? It works with baby Trig.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:12 PM
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11. I think Palin is being punked by someone
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:58 PM
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7. Which is why it is so unbelievable & tacky that SP is taking advantage
of this for her photo op (and that Thatcher's daughter is apparently allowing it to happen).
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:05 PM
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10. "Dementia is a blessing for those with the most to forget."
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:34 PM
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12. No. Maybe for a small few, but it is a disease that strikes
mainly the innocent.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:35 PM
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14. Unless they wind up trapped in the wrong memories. (nt)
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:35 PM
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13. The Iron Lady turns to rust.
How sad. I would wish that on absolutely nobody. I've seen it at its worst in some people, and have prayed for their swift death to end the slow decay of their minds.

I've recently read here that there may be a new hope for Alzheimer's victims. I hope it's true.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:05 PM
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17. Thank You
As much as I hate Thatcher, I am happy to see that we have actually offered sympathy for someone who, frankly, has a problem worse than anyone deserves.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:10 PM
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18. Thatcher and Reagan have/had dementia
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:26 PM
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19. Imagine ... "breaking" news to her mother her husband died -
over and over, and seeing her reaction. One of the nightmares of having to deal with this disease.

We'll never learn the stories true to Ronald Reagan until after Nancy leaves the earth, I suppose.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 12:46 AM
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20. It's interesting that both Thatcher and Reagan
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 12:47 AM by sabrina 1
were victims of the same illness in the end. It should make people think more deeply about how they live their lives. Both of these people had a very negative effect on millions of human beings during their lifetimes.

I can't say I feel anything, I would be lying to say I did. I feel for the many victims of their policies not only n their own countries but in many others also. Maybe it's a blessing that they did not have to spend their old age contemplating the harm they did to so many.

Having said that, Dementia is a terrible desease, but mostly for those who loved them who are the most affected. Thatcher and Reagan both lacked empathy for others, the poor, the homeless, the oppressed etc. I wish I could feel more empathy for them but I think of those they viewed with such disdain and I would prefer to direct my sympathies to them, many of whom also suffer from Dementia but do not have the means to ensure treatment that would respect their dignity as both of them did.
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