A positve post! Adam Lambert Video frolics in politics ! Great message!

[saracat]

Great new music video showcases not only a politcal message but showcases a young man who will undoubtably be the talent of this century!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1641489/20100614/lambert_adam_american_idol_.jhtml


Adam Lambert's 'If I Had You' Video Frolics In Politics
New video aims to celebrate how dancing and partying bring everyone together.
By James Montgomery


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A few months ago — back when he was still the reigning "American Idol" runner-up — Adam Lambert told MTV News about the meaning of his latest single, "If I Had You," the video for which has just premiered on VH1.com.

"Basically, what it's saying is no matter what color your skin is, no matter what religion you are, no matter what your sexuality is ... we can all party together," he said. "And all this other stuff — money, success, fortune, fashion, glam — it's all great, but it doesn't mean anything if you're not connecting."



Clearly, Lambert was thinking big with the song, which meant that it needed an equally epic video. Early sneak peeks had him rocking spiked shoulder pads and gallivanting through a forest, and Lambert himself promised that things would get "kind of psychedelic." And on Monday (June 14), we finally got to see the finished project, an over-the-top affair that's, yes, kind of psychedelic and even a tad bit political.

Though mostly, it's just a pretty awesome Euro-pop video.

[WinkyDink]

1. Love Adam and you, saracat, but this is Idol-hating DU! :-)

[saracat]

2. Too bad. Adam is no Idol! LOL and I will just respond"Adam for President"

and heck, since he is a Democrat, I am sure I should be fine. I put this here cause the video is a great message to the GOP to STFU!

[saracat]

3. I guess some don't like positive messages?

[HockeyMom]

4. Who actually WON Idol last year?

Does anyone even remember this name?????? ADAM was the STAR last year. Best of luck to the true winner!!!!

[saracat]

6. Kris Allen but he is fading fast. This video has a great message!

I think every DUer should see it. Even those that do not like Adam should be able to get behind this. He has done so much for schools and education and now is bringing people together. He truly uses music as a force for good!

[rucky]

40. sensitive white guy with guitar

playing bland pop songs.

[Tashca]

5. Adam rocks!!

He really does and he has a great message here....I agree!

That is a great video. But I like the political message. I think many people could benefit from the message.

Thanks for a positive post!!!

[saracat]

7. And folks are unreccing it. They should be ashamed. Unreccs for this really

smack of bigotry. This video is being praised around the world and some on DU are unreccing it.That is unbearably sad.

[AtomicKitten]

9. Bigotry? Keep shuffling the Oppression Olympics deck. Hint: Amer Idol is vacuous crap. nt

[saracat]

12. So you disagree with this message?

"Basically, what it's saying is no matter what color your skin is, no matter what religion you are, no matter what your sexuality is ... we can all party together," he said. "And all this other stuff — money, success, fortune, fashion, glam — it's all great, but it doesn't mean anything if you're not connecting."

[Nikki Stone1]

29. That doesn't mean every artist appearing on the show is. Lambert seems to have transcended the show

which is why they couldn't let him win, I suppose.

[Sebastian Doyle]

Not my thing, musically (nor is anyone from American Idol)

But I'll give this thread a K&R just to piss off the homophobes.

[donheld]

25. k & R. I just happen to think Adam is a very talented young man.

He kicks ass. He will develope as an artist, but as it is he's very good.

[Spheric]

8. K&R Thanks. Great video. /nt

[saracat]

11. Our pols need to see this and THINK about it!

"Basically, what it's saying is no matter what color your skin is, no matter what religion you are, no matter what your sexuality is ... we can all party together," he said. "And all this other stuff — money, success, fortune, fashion, glam — it's all great, but it doesn't mean anything if you're not connecting."

Adam Lambert

[Jeanette in FL]

10. K & R'd, too, still in the negative, how sad for DU

Great uplifting video. Thanks for posting it!

I love the whole album, it justs makes me smile and happy.

I couldn't believe when I gave it a recommendation that it was still in the negative. If someone doesn't like him or his music why don't they just move on. Good Grief!

[saracat]

13. because they don't like the message? Because they only care about themselves?

Because they haven't even watched the video?

[taterguy]

15. Because they watched the video and don't like it?

I watched the video, well most of it anyway.

The world would be perfect:

If only everyone would dance around in revealing outfits.

What a political epiphany.

Whatever.

Edit: I am not opposed to revealing outfits. I just don't think there's any deep political or social message attached to them. The message is: Spend money on stuff Adam Lambert puts out, brought to you by AT&T.

[saracat]

18. If you listen to the words and read the article, it is all about "Connecting"

If we don't "connect" with one another, we have nothing.

"Basically, what it's saying is no matter what color your skin is, no matter what religion you are, no matter what your sexuality is ... we can all party together," he said. "And all this other stuff — money, success, fortune, fashion, glam — it's all great, but it doesn't mean anything if you're not connecting."

Adam Lambert

[taterguy]

20. Every cheap hood strikes a bargain with the world

Watch this video and tell me about connections.

He who fucks nuns will later join the church.

ps: Turn it up loud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79iZy_DqoyI

[saracat]

27. An artist doesn't always have to be dark to sell a message ! Lambert and Clash are very different

but both have value. Honestly, I find the positivity of Lambert's message very refreshing in these dark times. I would rather rejoice in one another than mourn. There is too much sadness and hate!

[taterguy]

30. An artist has to have a speck of integrity for their message to be worthwhile

Lambert is a product.

He's figured out that vague meaningless mumbles about unity move units.

It's hackery at its worst and not terribly original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOEU87SBTU

[saracat]

31. I am sure you realize the authors of "If I had you "are among the most respected in the music

industry? Most people involved in music would be stunned to hear then described as "hacks" . Only someone with very little knowledge of either music or the industry itself would say such a thing.

"If I Had You 3:48 – Writers- Max Martin, Johan Shellback, Savan Kotecha, Producers: Max Martin & Johan Shellback"

I understand you don't like the song.You may not like Adam or his style and that is perfectly fine, but when you start to refer to respected folks as "hacks", it begs the question why you are personally attacking these artists and their work. We do not all have to have the same musical tastes but wee should respect others for their contributions.
I do not appreciate most rap,but I understand that there is talent in some of the better known rap artists. I actually have learned to appreciate some.

[taterguy]

32. I have no respect for products

If you want to sell yourself to the highest bidder, fine.

Just don't take offense if I call you a whore.

And no, I didn't know or care who wrote the song.

[saracat]

33. ALL artists are "products" They are products of show business.

Adam far more than most contemporary artists has refused to compromise what he is. You may not like it but he isn't trying to be all things to all people, so to place this label on him is just wrong. I suppose you think any artist that makes money is a whore? So indirectly you insult ALL of us. I never produced or directed a show I wanted to fail. I want as many people as possible yto see my work and experience the message of the work, or to enjoy the experience.

As actors , musicians and artists all of us want an audience. We don't exist without one. If you are the greatest musician in the world, or playwrite , singer, dancer or actor and you have no audience with whom you share your gift, there is little point to your existence. You are squandering and devaluing your talent.

I find it extremely odd that you view attempting to achieve success with "selling out".

[taterguy]

34. Attempting to achieve success isn't selling out but how you do it matters

Sucking the teat of Simon Cowell and Fox is your choice, but don't expect any respect for doing it.

[saracat]

35. And I suppose it is better to be undiscovered? Where would he have gotten a larger audience.

I don't suppose you are aware that record companies don't "discover" people any more. They only sign those that come already equipped with a large audience. Simon Cowell is exactly the same as any record producer.There is no difference. Except that Idol offers you the largest audience in the world.And that really counts. The record industry is the most corrupt in all the Biz so if one waited to do business in some elevated manner, it would never happen and you would be singing alone in your bedroom or perhaps in a small bar. I have sat across the table from these people and they are evil. That is why I respect the fact that Adam has managed to do as much of what he intends as he wants to. He has retained his integrity. They weren't able to turn him into a Jonas brother or really to tone his act down much.

I have also worked with some very talented folks that never get exposure and no one will ever know of their talent. I know of one playwright and musician who has several brilliant musicals under his bed because he has too much "integrity" to let any producer have them without his having total control. Those plays will never see the light of day and the world is much poorer for it.

[taterguy]

36. Tell that to Arcade Fire

Did they ever go on American Fucking Idol?

[saracat]

37. I don't know who they are. Do they have anything on Billboard?

[taterguy]

38. Yes

[saracat]

41. They seem to be a Canadian indie group just starting their first North American Tour.

I will try to listen to their music but it doesn't matter how you find your audience.Just that you do. Adam has lately gone platinum. If he kept doing small clubs are waited he would still be largely unheard. He had an indie band too. It was called Citizen Vein. Monte Pittman, who plays with him now, who was Madonna's guitarist, was in it. They would still be unknown. Each to his own. There are many ways to make it and it is , in my opinion, wrong to find any way better than another.it is all about the search for an audience because without that ,you are nothing.

[taterguy]

42. Your opinion is wrong

And your spelling is atrocious.

[saracat]

43. Even I had to laugh! My typing was atrocious. I didn't look at it before I posted.

I almost had no idea what I wrote LOL! How can my "opinion" be wrong? It is an opinion. Aren't they a Canadian Indie group BTW? That was what I read. I still don't see where they charted but I could be missing it.

[taterguy]

44. Their album Neon Bible went to #2 on Billboard

Your whole theory is wrong.

Lots of indie bands chart.

Once upon a time you needed to be on a major label to get airplay and to get your albums in stores.

Our culture has opened up.

Being on a major is helpful but it's not a requirement.

And here's the thing:

If you're on a major, someone else makes your decisions.

Why should I listen to someone who's just a mouthpiece for a bean counter?

[zalinda]

17. It may not be Adam that they are unrec-ing

I think there are people who go around unrec-ing certain poster's threads just because they don't like the messenger.
The message is a great one, and he is a terrific guy from all reports.

zalinda

[BrklynLiberal]

14. K&R

[Celebration]

16. Love it, Love Adam

Not sure that the message is that front and center but it was a great video and he has SO much talent. Ordinarily I wouldn't recommend something like this...........but I did want to counter the unrecs.

[saracat]

19. I think the message is wrapped around the video. I think he just wanted folks to get the idea

in a fun way. It is all about "connecting" no matter who or what you are. I think that is a powerful message. If people connected there would be a world less hate.

[Biker13]

21. I Can't Stand The Guy's Voice.

Great message, though.

[dickthegrouch]

26. Love the songs, love the music, but

I love Adam as a performer and for his music. His performance, however, leaves a lot to be desired. That gasping noise he makes when he breathes is really beginning to turn me off. I had to remove the CD from my car for a while just because it's got so annoying.

Far too many of the AI performers have terrible vocal tics. I don't understand why they don't get tossed early. Randy is so hot on pitch, I'd think he'd have a few things to say about tics too, but never.

[laughingliberal]

22. I liked that very much. K&R. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Lots of people on DU have a problem with dance music

And by that I don't mean that not liking it is a problem, but not being able to understand it is a problem. And it is an interesting one. I first noticed it during the DU frenzy after the death of Michael Jackson. The song from the wee clip that got run endlessly, with the dancers, got called many things here that the song was not. I was very surprised about that. It is one thing to say you do not like him, or the song, but when, on a Democratic board, a song that mentions FDR by name gets called 'empty' 'vacuous' 'devoid of meaning' and other such things, there is a definite some'n going on. During that time, my impression was that this was pure racism. I went through a very negative period about DU because of this. I thought about it a lot. And I came to an odd conclusion which this thread brings to mind, and I think supports, which is that the lack of understanding is cultural. Not really racist with Michael, nor homophobic, re: Adam. Or anti diva re:GaGa. No, it is cultural. These are people, and God love them, I was once one of them, who hear music meant to make you move, and they simply assume that it contains no intellectual content at all. The 'non dance' cultures, they don't get the connection between movement and breath and thought and intelligence. They do not look for it, so they don't see it. It is subversive material in a way that has yet to subvert their particular mindset.
This is why a person can sing a song that castigates media and government collusion and lack of caring for the common person and actually mentions Martin Luther King and Franlin R can wind up being called 'vacuous pop' by Democrats. It was not that Michael was black, it was that people on that stage were dancing, and he danced while he sang it. Because he performed a song rather than standing there and whining it. Same goes for Adam. GaGa. More than a few others.

And aside from that diatribe, allow me as a 100% non Idol Viewer say that anyone who claims that a performer who participates in that show "comes from" that show and should be defined by that show, this is like saying the Beatles "came from" the Ed Sullivan Show. It is just a way to get it done. Lucky people find one, one way to get it done, and they do it. Rosie O'Donnell became known from the show 'Star Search', which was a similar multi week competition. Her checks cash just like any other multi millionaire performer, they are not tainted by Star Search. No one even remembers that.
So if you don't like Adam, who cares, that's fine, but making a stink about a person taking advantage of American Idol because you don't like American Idol is daft, and not a valid criticism. This is show biz. Bette Midler 'comes from' the bathhouse, I suppose, 'cause she played one. I once played a bakery, hence I must be a bagel.
I always want to ask the snarkers against Idol if they mock other workers trying to get hired.

[saracat]

24. Thank you Bluenorthwest. Fabulous post. You may be on to something

as a generality but I absolutely know that is not the entire reason for some of the dislike. Some have virtually admitted as much.

As a theater person myself,I can understand the resentment that some professionals might feel, but the thing is, it is just a road to Rome and no different in many ways than any other audition process. I think Idol is crap but, perhaps by accident, it has produced some talented performers.Few can argue about Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood or Daughtry. Adam Lambert was already talented and had a career.What he needed was exposure. He actually viewed idol as part of a business plan, and I applaud him for it. Most people forget about the business of show and that is why they often don't succeed. I have been guilty myself of letting my heart lead my head in making some production decisions and nearly always have had to pay for it. Lambert Knew he needed to have a platform and he went for it.
You are correct, in the years to come, no one will even remember where he came from.It is only a launching pad. I once played in a Gay bar so I suppose?????????? I guess that makes me a bagel too! LOL!

[Nikki Stone1]

28. Bluenorthwest, this is an old belief in Western music traceable to the Catholic church

Music that makes you move is of the devil, since it is connected with sex. Music that is linguistically based, like chant, makes you think and ponder God and spirituality. When the Germans got hold of the classical tradition in the 19th century, they had the same subdivision, where music that you sit and listen to is good and music that you dance to is not serious (at best) and bad/sexual or demonic (at worst). Classic Western mind/body split.

It's amazing how many people still hold on to those old prejudices even when they claim to be so open-minded.

[undeterred]

39. I like Adam Lambert

Powerful voice, great entertainer, nice guy. Not terribly original, but he is easily one of the best finds of American Idol. I don't expect anything real deep from him.