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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 03:46 AM
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Dawn dish detergent helps save wildlife
I've cleaned seabirds after oil spills, and they use Dawn detergent on the birds. (And after I saw murres go from being oily tarballs to being clean and ready for release, I was impressed!)

If you go to their website and enter your purchase code, they will donate a dollar to the International Bird Rescue Research Center and the Marine Mammal Center.

www.dawnsaveswildlife.com

It's a modest thing to do, but every bit helps. :)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 04:10 AM
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1. The birds still die in less than a month
Euthanasia is more humane.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 04:22 AM
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2. It depends on the bird species
the type of oil, how heavily oiled the birds are, and other factors.

Saying that all the birds always die is not accurate.

Also, half of the money goes towards marine mammals, and I haven't heard anything about their survivorship after spills. Have you?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:47 AM
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6. from the audobon rescue site
What is your survival rate?
The survival rate will differ with each oil spill because of all the factors that effect it. Some of those factors are the toxicity of the oil, how rapidly the birds are collected and stabilized, what condition the bird was in before it was oiled, and the species involved. We have had release rates as high as 100% and as low as 25% in the early years. We now average about 50% to 80%. Again, it depends on many variables and cannot be predicted.


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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:10 PM
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9. Yeah, sure, knck yourself out. I prefer facts, though.
I was only referring to a scientific study and facts. You can believe whatever you want but, in fact, the cleaning of soiled birds is more about selling Dawn than it is about saving birds.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/28/oil-s...

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill (Deepwater disaster, May 27) will doubtless soon bring heart-rending images of oiled seabirds to our screens, plus those of valiant attempts to clean them and release them back to their natural habitat. Unfortunately, most of the cleaned-up birds will die. In February 1996 when Sea Empress ran aground off the Pembrokeshire coast, polluting a large sea area and 200 kilometres of coast, around 7,000 seabirds were known to have been oiled.

The Countryside Council for Wales contracted the British Trust for Ornithology to assess the survival rates of oil-cleaned guillemots, one of the most commonly oiled seabirds in British waters, from previous spills. They compared their survival with that of unoiled birds. The cleaned birds survived on average after release for just seven days compared with 599 days for unoiled birds. There is no reason to suppose that badly oiled seabirds like brown pelicans, black skimmers, terns, gulls, jaegers and others in the Gulf of Mexico will survive any better after treatment. It would be kinder not to put any birds that are substantially oiled through the trauma of cleaning and dispatch them humanely as quickly as possible after capture.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:35 PM
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11. It looks like the issue needs more study...
http://www.owcn.org/about-oiled-wildlife/why-rehabilita...

In the meantime, I think that wildlife should be rehabilitated. A better technique, for example, can reduce stress and improve survival rates.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 05:53 PM
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12. pro. seems like you prefer the facts you prefer.
Edited on Sat Jun-05-10 05:53 PM by bullimiami
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-10 06:02 PM
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13. could it be b/c British waters are colder & hypothermia kicks in faster?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 04:49 AM
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3. I have used Dawn for years because they do this.
Edited on Fri Jun-04-10 04:50 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:11 PM
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10. Your patronage is appreciated
...by Proctor and Gamble. The birds they saved are all dead, though.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 04:56 AM
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4. It would be better
to contact the environmental groups directly and see what they really need --rather than the dollar they get from Proctor and Gamble when you buy Dawn.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 05:21 AM
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5. Pile drivers use Dawn, not because they care about softer hands
but when you have a fuel or hydraulic oil leak/spill you squirt a little bit of Dawn into the oil on the surface and that colorful oil slick just vanishes.

The EPA Keep Away sauce!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 06:50 AM
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7. K& R Thank you!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 07:00 AM
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8. I've seen the commercials....sweet of you to think of the birdies..
:D

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