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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:51 PM
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Poll question: OK, what's the dumbest idea you've heard for capping the BP gusher?
Everybody's a critic.

Everybody's a backseat driver.

Everybody knows how to cap the BP gusher!

So we've seen zillions of hare-brained ideas on how to go about capping this gusher, so we can move on to trying to clean up the mess.

So let's hear it! What's the absolute dumbest idea you've heard for capping the BP well?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:52 PM
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1. Send divers down there
Yep, I had a large and long chuckle
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:55 PM
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2. They don't even have subs that can go down there.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:57 PM
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4. Alvin, which is not fit to work with this
but yes, I know... why I was laughing my ass off. That has to rank up there with my favorites.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 07:56 PM
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3. My idea is to dam off the gulf and we can call it Oil Lake.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:09 PM
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7. Minus the dam, they're making progress on that one already
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:06 PM
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5. Nuking it without doubt.
Do that and you'd have an unholy methane problem.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:38 PM
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19. An unholy radioactive methane problem... n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:07 PM
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6. Fire BP or tell them who is their daddy! (not sure how they expect that to fix the leak)
Edited on Sat May-29-10 08:07 PM by stray cat
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:11 PM
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8. I think Matthews suggested an oil tanker
but it's all the same and I could be remembering wrong too.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:11 PM
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9. Leaving the incompetent criminals in charge of cleaning up after their crime. nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:12 PM
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10. .
Edited on Sat May-29-10 08:12 PM by HughMoran
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:30 PM
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16. Ding! That's the best yet.
That has gotta hurt. Not hurt enough, but it should hurt.

And you watch, the BP lovers ain't gonna like it.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:13 PM
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11. I'm insulted that my Nerf Ball Kill wasn't included in the poll
But then, neither was my Cheese Cloth Kill.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:20 PM
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12. Other: The 4" sippy straw in the 21" riser
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:25 PM
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13. You're going to hate the LMRP top cap then
Edited on Sat May-29-10 08:26 PM by HughMoran


It also uses drill pipe. If you were an engineer who took fluid dynamics, it wouldn't seem so dumb. You'd be surprised how much that pipe can flow.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:27 PM
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14. I don't question how much the pipe can flow,
Edited on Sat May-29-10 08:28 PM by Ruby the Liberal
I saw with my own eyes how much was NOT being captured.

Edit to ask - is the LMRP going to act the same, with <10% going into the tube and the rest still being dumped into the Gulf? If so, you are right - I am not impressed.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:37 PM
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18. They are going to try to clean-cut the riser pipe at top of BOP and seal tightly
They expect some leakage, but in this case I think they are looking at closer to 10% leakage (90% or more recovered.)
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:41 PM
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21. Lets hope it works.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:48 PM
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22. Interestingly, their limited success with the 'sippy straw' gives them (and me) hope
This

1) cuts off the riser with it's many leaks at the top so all oil is coming out of one hole, and
2) gives a nice clean vertical pipe to seal up against with a custom made flange.

BP won't give a chance of success, but if they can get a clean cut and somehow get this thing into place over the leak, I think it will work quite well.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:27 PM
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15. If I remember my physics correctly
Bernouli principle at hand...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle

And no, it is not that stupid
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:35 PM
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17. Don't forget the massive pump for the top kill pumping 3,000,000 gallons/day through 2 3" hoses
That's what I'm talking about - a big old pump sucking it up through the same drill pipe used for the top-kill (which had to have a higher flow rate than the oil coming out.)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:56 PM
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23. I know, why I made a refernce to that principle
don't matter if this is a very specialized Oxygen Delivery Mask... or this...

Fluid dynamics are fluid dynamics.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:24 PM
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24. I assumed I was sounding a bit like I wasn't sure what you were getting at
It would be difficult to calculate the max. flow rate for a particular pipe diameter, so a novice could misinterpret results using a basic equation.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:36 PM
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27. Oh absolutely,
and neither you or I claim to be experts... but at least to me, not sleeping during my training and yes, even Physics, helps. And no, I suspect neither you or I would even want to start making the actual calculations for this.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:39 PM
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20. That qualifies! n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:19 PM
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25. Went for "other"
And my answer is: Everything they've tried so far, or are going to try until the relief well can get there. That's the only thing that stands a chance of working.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 10:26 PM
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26. Other:
Allowing the goddamned thing to be permitted in the first place. Followed by Top Kill 1, Junk Shot !, Top Kill 2 Junk Shot 2, and all the while oil gushing into the Gulf...
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