30k to have Bristol Palin advocate for Abstinence like having BP being an advocate for Environment

[LynneSin]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-jim-taylor/bristol-palin-speaker-for_b_580434.html

Bristol Palin: Speaker for Hire

It seems like every day when I go on line I read something that causes me to think: "Another indication of the end of civilization as we know." Well, this morning I had another one of those painful epiphanies when I read that Bristol Palin, the daughter of the former Alaska governor and Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin, has signed on with a speakers' bureau and is available for up to $30,000 per speech.

<<<snip>>>

And isn't there a bit of hypocrisy in having Ms. Palin be a spokesperson for sexual abstinence and against teen pregnancy? That is like having BP advocate for environmental conservation. The fact is that if she hadn't gotten pregnant and had a baby, she would be just another child of a celebrity. Instead, she is likely to make tons of money from the decisions she made. And things have worked out pretty darned well for her, haven't they? Though I also don't begrudge her that either (okay, I do a little), she is not exactly an exemplar of how those decisions would typically impact a young woman's life. To the contrary, giving birth as a teenager out of wedlock is usually associated with a lack of education attainment and a life of low-paying jobs.

[donco6]

1. Yes, it's exactly like.

I guess it's in the Palin blood. They've never been able to hold real jobs.

[w8liftinglady]

3. wellll-I don't know about that.Todd worked for BP for 18 years

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/10/03/2009-10-03_todd_palin_resigns_from_oil_job_.html

[rurallib]

2. Apparently the writer assumes since Bristol had a child, she had sex

And we all know that that may not be true
:patriot:

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. So True ... but I think she has a Monkey on her Back....

[UTUSN]

5. K&R #4 for Best Analogy, let's go for big #5!1 n/t

[Johonny]

6. Yah but if you point that out the MSM will come after you for attacking her daughter

Kids should be off limits, apparently even the adult ones that of their own free will talk and give interviews to the media :)

[LynneSin]

8. I highly doubt there is any free will when it comes to Bristol Palin

The girl is an uneducated hick who would be living off the taxpayer's dime if her mom didn't find a way to get her a job. If she didn't have a kid she'd probably be serving in Iraq like her older brother (who had to join to escape jail).

I'm guessing Sarah gave her the ultimatium that Bristol has to be trotted out like a trained monkey reciting the lines that someone else wrote. She is an embarassment to young women everywhere even though who have had children out of wedlock.

[proudohioan]

13. I hadn't heard about the older brother...

joining the military to escape jail....

PLEASE, DO TELL!!!

Yeah, I know it's shameless, and I'm probably the only one on the planet not to have heard, but PLEASE, BRING ON THE GOSSIP!

:popcorn:

[LynneSin]

14. It's one of those national enquirer stories.

He was involved with a group of kids that vandelized school buses.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6892728

I'm using DU because all the links are in there.

Yes, it was National Enquirer that reported this but remember this - they also were the ones that broke the story on John Edwards.

[Obamanaut]

15. Vandalism notwithstanding, I don't think the military

has taken recruits in lieu of jail/probation/etc for many years. Can you imagine how hard it might be starting off with someone who has known or suspected discipline issues?

<snip>The Army addresses this issue in the Army Recruiting Regulation, Army Regulation 601-210, paragraph 4-8b: "Applicant who, as a condition for any civil conviction or adverse disposition or any other reason through a civil or criminal court, is ordered or subjected to a sentence that implies or imposes enlistment into the Armed Forces of the United States is not eligible for enlistment.."

The Air Force Recruiting Regulation, AETCI 36-2002, table 1-1, lines 7 and 8, makes an applicant ineligible for enlistment if they are "released from restraint, or civil suit, or charges on the condition of entering military service, if the restraint, civil suit, or criminal charges would be reinstated if the applicant does not enter military service."

The Marine Corps Recruiting Regulation, MCO P1100.72B, Chapter 3, Section 2, Part H, Paragraph 12 states: "Applicants may not enlist as an alternative to criminal prosecution, indictment, incarceration, parole, probation, or other punitive sentence. They are ineligible for enlistment until the original assigned sentence would have been completed."

In the Coast Guard, enlistment prohibition is contained in the Coast Guard Recruiting Manual, M1100.2D, Table 2-A.

Interestingly, the Navy Recruiting Manual, COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8F, does not appear to contain any provisions which would make such applicants ineligible for enlistment. However, I've been informed by several Navy recruiters that the Navy will not accept applicants for service, as an alternative to criminal prosecution or other punitive sentence.

<link http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/joinprison.htm >

[LynneSin]

16. No a judge can't force you but someone facing criminal charges could offer it as an option

Surely that would keep Track's name & record clean.

[Obamanaut]

19. I don't think the military wants them, even if the judge implies an

option "...is ordered or subjected to a sentence that implies or imposes enlistment into the Armed Forces of the United States is not eligible for enlistment..."

Way back in the day (late 1960s), there was the McNamara Project 100,000. There are enlistee categories, #1 is cream of the crop, #2 less cream, ...#4 generally unacceptable. The 100,000 was made up of #4, who most often scored poorly on the ASVAB, but we were running short of troops, and this would help fill in the ranks.

I had one working for me in Guam, as an aircraft electrician. He didn't turn out to be the best of the best, but he did become good enough to work on his on, reliably. But, he was not there as an alternative given by a judge.

[proudohioan]

17. Oh, thank you....

and no problem with the DU link (I'm one step up from 'dial-up', so that works better for me anyhow).

Yes, National Enquirer may be sleazy, but they are often right.

Hmmmm, so all the crap from Queen Sarah about her son doing the 'right thing' by serving his country, huh! Very interesting! I should have known!

Thanks again!

:)

[ejpoeta]

7. here's what i don't get. i am sure her parents told her not to have sex. and unfortunately we all

know how well that worked out. what makes her think others will listen if she didn't?? i mean, if she had been educated about protecting herself against STDs and pregnancy along with being told why she should wait maybe she would not be a teen mother. why do none of them seem to get that!! see, here's the conversation.... I know you are going to be tempted to have sex with your boyfriend or a boy in general.... that's how boy's are. You are more than an object. and any boy who loves you would respect that. I think it's important for you to wait, but if you are going to do it, know how important is to protect yourself against pregnancy and STDs. Also know that any protection isn't 100% and what would you do if it failed? that kind of talk.

The thing is that kids think they are invincible and don't tend to have the perspective to see things as we might. bristol palin would be a good person to go around talking about why you should wait, but instead of preaching abstinence only, knowing full well that she herself didn't heed that warning, she should maybe be educating girls about birth control. because that is what will really keep them out of her position. and maybe htey'd actually take THAT advice from her.

I've got three girls myself. and it scares me to death to think that they would let any boy take advantage of them. I was 26 when i had sex and it was with their father. but i can look back and see many times that i put myself in situations i shouldn't have put myself in and the sheltered, lack of knowing anything is mostly the cause. and we didn't talk about that stuff when i was a kid and i didn't feel comfortable talking with anyone about it either.

I don't want my girls to be like me in that sense. I am trying to raise them to think of themselves as smart beautiful girls and women with goals and to have enough respect for themselves to expect more. I realize that even my best efforts aren't going to necessarily keep them from experimenting or wanting to do it because they think someone loves them..... i want them to be armed with the information they're gonna need. My 11 year old wants to be a vulcanologist when she grows up. I want to ensure that she can get there if she wants.... or if she changes her mind help her reach that too. my 4 year old wants to be a doctor. she's 4 so i assume that will change.

Just telling someone not to do something doesn't work. Give them something more to be and i think and hope that's the best way. education can never be the wrong thing.

[LynneSin]

9. Because the parents that would send their daughters to see this travesty believe the same thing.

They thing simply telling their kids to not have sex that the won't do it.

[Wednesdays]

12. I tell my daughter: "Do NOT have sex until after...

you have kids!"

[ejpoeta]

20. that'll work. LOL!

[tabbycat31]

10. she has one way to redeem herself in my mind

and that's to write a tell all mommy dearest book and expose her mother for who she really is.

However, I think her baby daddy is going to beat her to the punch.

[Raschel]

11. If any of the shallow grifters want to redeem themselves, they need to

get involved in public service. You know, like do something for SOMEONE ELSE. Won't happen with these hypocritical opportunists.

[CarlaLevin]

18. To be fair, the baby daddy has a bit of an agenda BUT

if Bristol went rogue (sorry, couldn't resist) with an unflattering tell all, not that would be sweet karmic schadenfreude!