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roscoeroscoe Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:39 PM
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Lindsay Graham commercial on ABC, did you see what i saw?
Source: ABC television/just after This Week with Jake Tapper

lindsay graham campaign commercial aired over augusta ga channel 6

No link yet.

out of the corner of my eye i saw a quick into and then a two star general, in the army camoflage uniform, made comments supporting graham's campaign.
that's flat-out not allowed for army personnel. as a soldier, i would love to follow up on this but i didn't catch the general's name. did anyone else see that commercial? if you can help identify that guy i'd appreciate it.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:42 PM
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1. Being as Lindsey Graham
was last up for election in 2008, what makes you think that this was an ad for a political campaign?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:46 PM
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2. Did the ad have a disclaimer?
My understanding of the Pentagon directive is that military personnel can endorse candidates, but there must be a very clearly stated disclaimer that the military as a whole is not endorsing the candidate.

Moot anyway, since Graham is not running for office.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:34 PM
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4. K&R #2 for apparently the O.P. saw a uniform. Just the uniform makes the link to the military as a
whole. This is a sore point with me. I fume to see even EX- military, non-active duty veterans using their medals/decorations in political activities. In Coup 2000 those half dozen Medal of Honor holders were standing on Shrub's stage in front of the cameras. Then and afterwards, I have called to complain to The Medal of Honor Society and the service organizations about the military props in political campaigns. Politicians of all stripes just luerve to veterans-bait and stage events with veterans for political points. Like, intervening to get medals that were never issued years before, then having a public ceremony for the cameras to eat up. Such interventions are easy, could be done for the vet by any friend or relative filling out a couple of forms, and give the pol BIG, FREE publicity. But one of the worst was erstwhile Senator Enron Phil GRAMM of Texas, who performed the intervention, but then held the awards ceremony -- NOT at a courthouse or VFW hall -- but at the RETHUG PARTY HEADQUARTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

If the O.P. saw a uniform in a politcal ad, the uniform itself makes it a no-no.


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Junkie Brewster Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:40 PM
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3. We didn't see it here in Atlanta, FWIW
They may play it on local news. Anyone know if there's a South Carolina version of Peach Pundit?
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