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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:42 AM
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have I got this right?
Rand Paul believe that ALL regulation of private business is unconstitutional? Ergo, OSHA is unconstitutional, Title X of the Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional, All banking regulation is unconstitutional and the minimum wage is unconstitutional. Does it follow from his way of thinking that taxation is also unconstitutional?

Are these widely held views among the tea baggers or is this more extreme libertarianism and only supported by a minority of the tea baggers.

If Conway can't make hay out of this, he's in the wrong profession.

Fortunately, it looks like he can.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:49 AM
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1. Rand's only hope is the Victim Card.
He needs to get out there right away (though apparently not on MTP) and begin wailing about poor, poor Rand and how the "lamestream media" attacks him at every turn. It worked for $arah!
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:50 AM
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2. Yup. I think it's a really good sign that he shut up and went home...n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:52 AM
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3. Somehow I don't see that working for him
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:01 AM
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5. He was on Rightwing radio (Laura Ingrahm)
referring to the Maddow appearance as getting pounced on by the "looney left"
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 05:52 AM
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4. some of those political views are loudly espoused by DUers.
in full or in part.

:shrug:



However, the teabaggers are confused merely because their corporate handlers just riled them up without focusing them, intentionally I think. Since their underlying motivation is really racism, it becomes easy to muddle the point after that, since saying they don't like a black president is rather telling.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:21 AM
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7. definitely true that for many baggers, racism is their foundation
but the teabaggers seem to have wholly embraced Paul.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:26 AM
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8. What's funny as hell is that Paul's libertarianism would toss nearly
Edited on Sat May-22-10 06:28 AM by Nay
every teabagger under the bus, because the prime tenet of libertarianism is that if you ain't smart, strong, and driven, you get to die because you just aren't fit enough to live. All the teabaggers I've seen could barely tie their shoes.

Teabaggers like the message because, in their own little heads, they ARE smart and strong -- and they figure they'll do fine in the New Libertarian Order. They'll only find out differently when it's too late.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:11 AM
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6. Keep in mind Rand Paul won Kentucky in a landslide and he probably
won on his ideas. Libertarianism is not that foreign,
they have an official think tank. The teabaggers have
brought the Libertarians to the forefront.

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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:42 AM
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9. people like it in theory, but i don't think they realize what they are signing on for.
no regulation means NO REGULATION. so when you go to get a gallon of gas there is no federal agency out there making sure that you are getting a gallon of gas when you buy a gallon of gas. and there is no one out there making sure the car company isn't cutting costs by mixing cadmium in as a filler for your meds. we can trust that when we buy a car it meets certain safety regulations because there is an agency making sure car companies meet these requirements. and we can trust our food is safe because there is an agency to make sure it is.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:11 AM
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10. These are the arguments our side should be making in spades
against Libertarianism. Bore down to the practical application
of Libertarian Principles.
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