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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:43 PM
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Virginia Tech shooter's mother sought help for son - - at church
WOODBRIDGE, Va. (AP) - The mother of Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho had for years sought help for her troubled son.

The Washington Post reports that the members and pastor at One Mind Church in Woodbridge were going to help get rid of what the pastor called a "demonic power."

But before the church could act, Cho returned to Blacksburg for his senior year at Virginia Tech. Months later he shot 32 people and himself in the worst shooting rampage by an individual in U.S. history.

The Rev. Dong Cheol Lee, minister of the Presbyterian congregation, says Cho's problem needed to be solved by spiritual power. He says Cho and his mother met with members of the congregation. Churchgoers told his mother, Hyang In Cho, that her son needed deliverance from the demonic power that was afflicting him. The pastor said the churchgoers were helping several people like Cho.

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=644&sid=1134424
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:44 PM
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1. Did it work?
:mad:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:45 PM
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2. A demon??? Ya know I don't really trust psychiatrists
but I'd trust them a thousand times over before I went to a church for "mental demons".
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:45 PM
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3. for Christ's sake, I hope they have learned their lesson
Edited on Mon May-07-07 12:46 PM by maddezmom
People like Cho need help from professionals, not exorcism.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:47 PM
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4. "Months later"?
If this kid was supposedly 'demon-infested' then WHY did the Pastor not try to visit him at school? Does his 'help' stop at the door of his office?

This sort of garbage makes me SICK. :grr:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:55 PM
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5. Maybe mom didn't donate enough for a "house call".
Edited on Mon May-07-07 12:55 PM by Bluebear
:(
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:06 PM
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6. Scariest line....there more people like Cho not getting "professional" help?
"The pastor said the churchgoers were helping several people like Cho."
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:15 PM
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16. Yes, that jumped out at me as well!
Now that is the scariest thing I've read in awhile...

Certainly whatever ailed Cho must have seemed demonic. Mental health issues and particularly psychosis is a scary thing. Before I actually encountered any actual psychosis sufferers, I was prone to the belief that they just needed lots of understanding and therapy. Having seen psychosis first hand, I came to realize that it is really quite untractable to normal interactions, there really is something organic wrong, and ... trying to cast out demons just ain't gonna cut it in terms of healing the person.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:46 PM
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18. True, that does sound scary to me also, but keep in mind
that fundies often blame demon-possession for whatever they can't fix, hoping for a magic incantation to make it all better. Growing up, I heard "demon-possession" as the cause for my stomachaches, my bad attitude, my mother's cancer, my friend's dyslexia, and rock music, among other things.

So it may not really be "several people like Cho." Who knows? We can only hope it's some of the more innocuous forms of demon-possession. :eyes:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:10 PM
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7. He's a murderer, not a "shooter"
And he's just plain evil.

I hope that when the medical and police examiners are through with his body they dump it out in the Atlantic Ocean to be fed to the sharks. He must not get a dignified burial.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:12 PM
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8. It's the paper's headline not mine. And if he is "just plain evil", you agree with his church?
Edited on Mon May-07-07 01:12 PM by Bluebear
Do you think it was "demons" that just didn't get attended to?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:34 PM
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15. We can't allow him to get a proper christian burial.
'Cause then he'll be shooting murderizing angels in heaven.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:32 PM
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14. I'm pretty sure he shot people.
I don't think he clubbed them over the head with his guns.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:22 PM
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9. Sure, go for the exorcism instead of meds...
Superstition is always better than science. :sarcasm:

Casting out demons. For pity's sake.

Why can't idiots like this build a time machine and go back to the Middle Ages, where they'd have fun?

:dunce:
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:26 PM
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10. "Send for...
the Witch-smeller Persuivant!"
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:30 PM
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12. "But *no one* expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
:dunce:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:29 PM
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11. But there is also this
Cho didn't get court-ordered treatment

"WASHINGTON - The gunman who killed 32 people at Virginia Tech failed to get the mental health treatment ordered by a judge who declared him an imminent threat to himself and others, a newspaper reported Monday.


Seung-Hui Cho was found "mentally ill and in need of hospitalization" in December 2005, according to court papers. A judge ordered him into involuntary outpatient treatment.

However, neither the court nor community mental health officials followed up on the judge's order, and Cho didn't get the treatment, The Washington Post reported, citing unidentified authorities who have seen Cho's medical files."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_us/virgini...



What to do?
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:31 PM
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13. Baker Act.
:think:
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:38 PM
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17. Actions based on religious beliefs have consequences, like everything else
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