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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:35 PM
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Four Police Shot - two dead in West Memphis Arkansas
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/20/arkansas.2.poli... /
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Two police officers were fatally shot and another two were wounded Thursday in two separate shootings allegedly by the same suspects in West Memphis, Arkansas, police said.

The suspects, who were using an assault weapon, were themselves fatally shot.

The incident began around 11:40 a.m. (12:40 p.m. ET), when police made a traffic stop on a white minivan traveling eastbound on I-40 at Airport Road, said Inspector Bert Shelton, who is assigned to city hall for the West Memphis Police Department.

The occupant or occupants of the van shot two police officers and sped off, he said. One of the victims died at the scene; the other was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died, Shelton said. One of the two fatalities was the son of the city's chief of police, he added.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:37 PM
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1. damn, i hate hearing these stories. though it is a cops job to put self out there, i want
them to make it home to their families, each and every night.

i am so sorry.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:44 PM
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10. Live coverage
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:38 PM
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2. Tragic!
My condolences to the families.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:38 PM
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3. That's poor reporting.
What exactly are they calling an "assault rifle?"

Did they have a rifle with full auto capability? 'Cuz those are illegal for most of us...

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:40 PM
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5. Lazy reporters and editors.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:46 PM
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12. Not lazy - they have an agenda.
"Assault weapons" is a known-quantity buzzword used only by the usual suspects with the usual agenda. It is generally followed by the word "ban." More clarity and description would be potentially damaging to their cause.

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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:51 PM
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14. True.
If they're not lazy then they're working an angle.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:48 PM
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13. It was a rifle, and they used to to commit some assaults
:argh:
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:36 PM
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25. The sheriff's vehicle was riddled with bullet holes.
Edited on Thu May-20-10 08:38 PM by BrightKnight
I have not heard what the weapons were. They apparently had some firepower.

If you kill the Police Chief's son an shoot the Sheriff you are a dead man. No weapon on earth is going to change that.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:47 PM
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30. Thank you. sometimes, it really is that simple.
:thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:46 PM
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29. Why am I not surprised by your nitpicking the story?
I wish we could do your username...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:48 PM
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31. You said it.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:39 PM
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4. Awful,but at least they got the bad guys.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:40 PM
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6. Wow - so 'bad guys' - 'scum' I think some call them
Will shoot and armed people?

Openly armed people.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:43 PM
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8. Gee, it would been so much better if the people were unarmed.
It would make things quicker for those who were "forced into a life of crime".

:eyes:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:41 PM
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7. Terrible.
Good thoughts for their families.

BTW, am I right in thinking you bolded the "assault weapons" to make some asinine anti-2nd point?
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:43 PM
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9. Sounds like a draw to me - or even a loss for the cops (counting the wounded).
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:45 PM
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11. Yeah, it's a game.
Human lives are points.

:puke:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:03 PM
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15. In our society, they are. Though the real score is kept in dollars. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:11 PM
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16. Two cops are seriously injured
one is critical and one is in surgery.
The Sheriff, who was about to retire, is in critical condition.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 03:19 PM
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17. Terrible news.
Here in Detroit, the 29-year-old son of a police officer was shot to death early today by someone with an assault rifle.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100520/METRO01/5200453...

How can one bring back a life?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:11 PM
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18. Graphic photo with one of the dead suspects
He looks very young. The article says they had Ohio license plates. I'm going to follow this story. Why would two young men shoot and kill police over a traffic stop and then in a Walmart parking lot.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/may/20/west-m...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:32 PM
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19. Vermin!
This news sickens me
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:38 PM
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20. Hutaree was just the start
Three will be more incidents like this in the coming months.

Bank on it.

The nutburgers are insane, angry, and armed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:06 PM
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21. That's why I'm following this
:hi:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 07:31 PM
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22. Yep if this is the bunch they Aryan Nation and date back a long ways
There's a book by an FBI informant called In the Devil's Den that details the FBI taking them down. Also coming from that church back in late 90's was the Kehoe brothers. Most of you have probably seen the shooting video of them shooting it out with two police officers in Wilmington, OH. They were on the run for quite awhile I seem to remember.

I believe this bunch also had a plot to assasinate Morris Dees of the SPLC.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:08 PM
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23. I watched that frightening video on your thread
What the fuck is wrong with people on this planet.
Funny how much of this is not being discussed on M$Greedia.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:31 PM
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24. Scary people


A trend? i don't know statistics, and cops have been getting shot at since there were cops, but it seems the Skinheads are mighty trigger-happy for cops these days.

If judges would lock these goons up when they beat their wives and kids, rather than keeping room at the prisons for more pot smokers, maybe we could keep these violent fools off the streets.

But then they probably don't make good prison labor, so the prison lobby doesn't push for mandatory minimums for abusing women and children....sigh

At any rate, as much as bad cops infuriate me, me heart goes out to the families of these cops murdered just doing their jobs.

RIP Officers
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:38 PM
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26. But but but
The Hutaree were just given bail by a judge.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:21 PM
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36. No doubt ...i forgot that


like i said, gotta make room for the pot smokers....let people with actual conspiracies to kill cops go free because you know, "drugs" are more dangerous....

our judges and legislators are fools


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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:44 PM
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27. Actually, officer deaths are down.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2008/data/table_01.html

Just seems to be more high profile killings.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:45 PM
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28. West Memphis. Is this the same police department
That investigated the Robin Hill murders. I was just wondering because the Sheriff in that case, I couldn't remember his name.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:54 PM
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32. Don't have a clue
I just read that these two morons
...opened fire on the pair of officers with AK-47s as they were working along I-40. The suspects were apprehended and killed in a parking lot a short time later.

The officers were running drug interdiction when they pulled over a white van with Ohio tags. Two men exited the van and opened fire with the AK-47s on the officers. Officer Brandon Paudert was killed instantly. Officer Bill Evans died a while later at the hospital.

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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:59 PM
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33. It is very tragic
That type of work, the drug interdiction, is the most dangerous. Because most drug runners are armed and they know the punishment for being caught transporting drugs is so harsh in this country, that they would rather shoot it out and risk dying then go back to jail. I was just curious if this Sheriff that was wounded was the same one that was in an HBO documentary that I saw. Because that sheriff seemed to support the innocence of the West Memphis Three.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:09 PM
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34. The stupid war on drugs cost two officers their lives
Not to hijack this thread, but does anyone think that these officers would still be alive if not for the stupid and way too harsh penalties we have in this country for people who are caught with drugs. These two cops, according to the news reports, were running drug interdiction along the Interstate. It is quite likely that these suspects decided to open fire on these cops because they knew that they were likely looking at some very long time in prison if caught; simply because of the drugs they had on them. These men had probably been to jail before, and most likely knew that they would be looking at close to a life sentence if caught. So what happens, they decide to shoot it out with the police, rather than surrender.

If we had, as a country, the least bit of common sense when it came to drug use, and the the sentences that people receive in this country, it is likely that these officers would still be alive. If for example we eliminated the harshest penalties that are enforced with the law, and reduced sentences that are much more in line with other non-dangerous, non-violent crimes, then these suspects might have felt compelled to surrender. For example if they knew their fate was going to be a couple months in jail, or even a year, they and the officers would likely still be alive.

It is so sad all around.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:30 PM
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37. I did not know this was drug interdiction


work the cops were doing.

Doesn't change the tragedy of the situation, but doesn't make me feel so sorry for law enforcement in general.

These "interdiction" stops are often no more than shake-downs. Law enforcemnt makes a lot of $$$$ and seizes all sorts of booty from these type operations. Eventually, don't they think people will get fed up with it?

I've been through a few of these searches and they wouldn't cause me to harm anyone, but lots of folks are off the deep end these days. and sociopathic people think they can get away with shooting cops.

Did these two goons actually have drugs on them? Anyone know?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 06:14 AM
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38. They had Ohio license plates and the vehicle is connected
to an white supremacist church.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 07:01 AM
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39. Yeah, i knew that but was curious
if they also had drugs on them which made them freak out in paranoia or...were they out to kill cops merely for their white power trip.

have you heard if they actually found any drugs in the van?

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:10 PM
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35. There has been an awful lot of cop shootings in my opinion.
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