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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:35 AM
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A few days ago Keithout O talked about Glen Beck's speech
and how he was so hypocritical and used the example of kids getting trophies just for being on a team and not playing in the game. He said the parents should throw the trophies in the garbage and tell their kids that they don't get to accept awards that they didn't earn. The hypocrisy part was the Beck accepted and honorary degree from the college right after the speech, (it was at Pat Robertson U).

What I keep thinking about is when he said the parents should trow the trophies away. I also remember a mass conservative email I received once
where they contrasted two ways of treating a child if they fell and scrapped their knee. It said liberal parents would coddle the child and the conservative parent would just tell the kid to get up and get over it.

Do you think that is where the hate in them is passed along generations? Sure many people grow up in abusive families and become loving and compassionate people, probably because they don't want their children to suffer like they did. But when the person wants to deny health care to poor children because it would cost money that their parents didn't "earn" they must have learned that lack of compassion somewhere.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:44 AM
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1. Oh yes absolutely!
Conservatives usually deal with emotions not allowed when they were children in their parents house later on in life and with violent results. They believe in 'survival of the fittest', not 'nurturing'. I've watched several relatives go down destructive paths, because their parents were RW loonies that would beat them for sneezing.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 04:56 AM
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2. "Children Learn What They Live"
This was on the wall in the principal's office in my jr. high school. The only reason I know that is because I went in there one day to collect an award I had actually earned. :)

Children Learn What They Live
By Dorothy Law Nolte, Ph.D.


If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with fear, they learn to be apprehensive.
If children live with pity, they learn to feel sorry for themselves.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to feel shy.
If children live with jealousy, they learn to feel envy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with tolerance, they learn patience.
If children live with praise, they learn appreciation.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to love.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with recognition, they learn it is good to have a goal.
If children live with sharing, they learn generosity.
If children live with honesty, they learn truthfulness.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with kindness and consideration, they learn respect.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith in themselves and in those about them.
If children live with friendliness, they learn the world is a nice place in which to live.

Copyright © 1972 by Dorothy Law Nolte
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:14 AM
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4. We had that poem on the wall in one of the rooms of our house.
My parents tried but they failed in a few areas. But the point is they tried and they wanted to raise healthy kids, not selfish, greedy and angry ones.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:21 AM
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6. I love that quote which use to be promoted a while back
There is science and truth behind it. It needs to be on every families wall and in every classroom
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 05:52 AM
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3. i think what beck was saying people should do regarding the trophies is child abuse.
and then he accepted an award he didn't earn. i don't coddle my kids. i base my reaction to the severetiy of the fall. most times it's nothing. kiss it and make it better works. or i'll say, i guess you won't do that again. i don't consider it coddling. i think kids need reassurance and to know that we are there if they need us. and i think you may be on to something that the lack of such reassurance and acceptance for these folks as kids may have something to do with their attitude and behavior today.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 06:17 AM
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5. Glen Beck is insane
I wouldn't want him to be my dad.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 11:38 AM
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7. I wouldn't want to be in his gene pool, even remotely
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