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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:13 AM
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Interview with Deepwater Horizon Rig Survivor
Edited on Tue May-04-10 08:16 AM by FourScore
There is a fascinating audio clip at DK about the oil rig explosion. You should take a listen:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/4/863342/-Interview-with-Deepwater-Horizon-Rig-Survivor

It has also been transcribed. Here is a portion::

Um James, Dallas Texas, WBAP, Go right ahead sir.

Um, just wanted to clear up a few things with the petroleum engineer.
Everything he said was correct. I was actually on the rig when it exploded and was at work.


Alright lets Slow down, woah woah, woah woah, hold on....
So you were working on this rig when it exploded.

Yes sir.


OK. Go ahead...

SNIP

OK basically it's like a plug...

Once they open that plug, to go ahead and start cementing the top of the well, the well bore, we would cement the top and then basically we would pull off, another rig would slide over and do the rest of the completions work.

When they opened the well, is when the gas, the well kicked and we took a humungous gas bubble kick up through the well bore, it literally pushed the sea water all the way to the crown of the rig which is about 240 feet in the air.


OK so gas got into it and blew the top off of it. Now don't hang up I want to continue with you, because I want to ask you some questions related to this. OK?

Including, including has this sort of thing ever happened before and why you think it might have happened?

Right back to James, that's not his real name, Dallas WBAP.
I'm not going to give the working title of what you did there, either James but I wanted to finish..
So the gentleman was right about the point that obviously some gas got into the, I'll call it the funnel..

And that's not uncommon Mark, anytime you're drilling an oil well there is a constant battle between what the mud weight, the drilling fluid that we use to maintain pressure on the well bore itself.
There's a balance of the well's pushing gas one way and you're pushing mud the other way. There's a delicate balance has to be maintained at all times to keep the gas from coming back in these, what we call kicks.

We always get gas back in the mud, but the goal of the whole situation is to try to control the kicks.
Not allow the pressure differential between the vessel and the well bore.


In this case obviously too much gas got in.

Correct. And this well had not a bad history of producing lots of gas. It was touch and go a few times, but it's just not terribly uncommon, you're almost always going to get gas back from a well. We have systems to deal with the gas...


So what may of happened here?

The sheer volume and pressure of gas that hit all at once was more than the safeties and controls we had in place could handle.


And that's not.. is that like a mistake on somebodies part, or maybe its just Mother Nature every now and then kicks up, or what?

Mother Nature every now and then kicks up. The pressure that we're dealing with out there, you know, drilling deeper and deeper, into deeper water, deeper overall volume of the whole depth itself, you're dealing the 30-40,000 pound per square inch range. Serious pressures....


By the way, not to offend you, we just verified that you are who you are. Which I'm glad I'm sure you already knew that.
I would like to hold you over until the next hour because I want to ask you a few more questions about this as well as what happened exactly after the explosion during the explosion and can you wait with us?

Sure. I don't know how much of that I can share, but I'll do my best.
Alright, I don't want to get you in trouble. So to the extent you can, fine, the extent you can't, we understand.


We're talking to a caller under an assumed name, who was on the rig when it blew up, and we've been talking about how it happened. And now James I want to take you to the point when it happened, what exactly happened, you were standing where?


Well obviously the gas blew the sea water out of the riser. Once it displaced all the seawater out, the gas began to spill out on the deck, up through the center of the rig floor. The rig, yet to imagine a rectangle about 400 feet by 300 feet with a derrick sitting directly in the center. As this gas is now heavier than air it starts to settle into different places, from that point, something ignited the gas. Which would have caused the first major explosion.


Now what might ignite the gas?

Any number of things Mark, all rig floor equipment is what they consider intrinsically safe, meaning it cannot generate a spark. So that these types of accidents cannot occur.

However, as much gas came out as fast as it did it would have spilled over the entire rig fairly rapidly. Within a minute I would think the entire rig would be enveloped in gas. Now a lot of this stuff you can't smell, you can't taste it, it's just there. It's heavier than Oxygen. As it settled in, it could have made it to a space that wasn't intrinsically safe.
Something as simple as static electricity could have ignited the first explosion, which set off of course, a series of explosions.


hm mm So what happened, you're standing where, you're sitting somewhere, what happened?

Well I was in a location that was a pretty good ways from the initial blast, wasn't affected by the blast, I was able to make it out and get up forward to where the life boats.
The PA system was still working, there was an announcement over head that this was not a drill.
Obviously We have fire drills every single week to prepare for emergencies like this, fire and abandonment drills.
Over the intercom came the order to report to lifeboats 1 and 2 that this was not a drill, that there is a fire and we proceeded that way.


So the eleven men who died, were they friends of yours?

Yes sir they were.


Did they die instantly?

I would have to assume so, yes sir. I would think that they were directly inside the bomb when it went off.


How did you get off there...

The gas being the bomb..


OK, So the bomb being the gas explosion you're talking about.

Correct. They would have been in the belly of the beast.


We have to be careful of what we say because people will run wild with ideas. So I just want to make sure, so let me ask you this, by the way, why would the government send in a SWAT team to a rig? What's that all about?

Believe it or not, funny you should mention that, Transocean maintains a SWAT team, the drilling company. That, their sole purpose, they're experts in their field. The BOP, the Blow Out Preventer, they call that subsea equipment, they have their own SWAT team that they send out to the rigs to Service and maintain that equipment, highly specialized, highly trained....


What are interior SWAT teams, what is that?

The interior, from the government, now that I don't have any idea about that, that's beyond me.

And the other gentleman also mentioned that the USGS, that comes out and does the surveys,
I've been on that particular rig for three years, off shore five years, and I've seen the USGS, one time.

What we do have on a very regular basis is the MMS, which is the Minerals Management Service...


They're all under the Interior Department

Matter of fact, we were commended for our inspection record, from the MMS, we actually received an award from them, for the highest level of safety and environmental awareness.


Well I thought you were going to receive that award, didn't they put it on hold?

No we have actually received that award, we received it last year.

We may have been ready to receive it again this year.


Let me ask you this, the life boats, how did you get on the life boat, where are these life boats?

Theres actually four life boats, two forward and two aft depending on where the emergency or tragedy is taking place..


I mean did you wind up jumping in the water to get on these life boats, sometimes you have to do that?

I'll just say that there were five to seven individuals that jumped and the rest went down in lifeboats.


Alright I wont ask because you don't want to identify yourself that clearly. Good Point.
How fast were rescue efforts, how fast did they reach you?

It's common to have a very large work boat standing by. Bringing tools out, bringing groceries, bringing supplies. It's a constant turnaround, so we actually had a very large vessel real close by. He was actually alongside with a hose attached taking mud off of our vessel onto his own. That had to disconnect, in the emergency he disconnected and then pulled out about a mile to stand by for rescue efforts. So it was fairly quick.


How quick till the Coast Guard got there?

Mark, it's hard to say, between 45 minutes to maybe an hour when I recall seeing the first helicopter.


Which is actually pretty fast because you were 130 miles off shore, right?

Correct, if you look at the nearest bit of land which would be Grand Isle, Louisiana, somewhere in that area, we were maybe about 50 miles as the crow flies. But from civilization such as New Orleans it would be 200 miles.

A place where there was a helicopter, was more than likely 80 to 100 miles away.


SNIP

The number one focus right now needs to be containment. I like the idea of the boom they're going to try to lower down in the water to capture the leak.


But how long might that take? I've been reading about that and it could take 30 days to do that.

It very well could. You gotta remember the challenging environment, you know its 5,000 feet deep.
Theres a tangled wreck of a rig with all that marine riser still connected and twisted up into a big wad down there. Its going to take some time to get all that stuff in place. The engineering has to be there. Obviously you don't want to rush into it, you want to move expediently.
You're risking the lives of those men that are going to go out there and try to attempt this.


I was just going to say that, that's very dangerous, right, extremely dangerous?

Absolutely, absolutely. Theres going to be oil there's going to be natural gas. There's all the same things that cause us to explode, are still present, they're there.

The pressure has been cut off dramatically, from the simple fact of the folding of the riser. They've basically taken a great big garden hose and kinked it over several times.


How old is this rig, how long has it been there?

It was put in service in 2001, so its a fairly new rig.


SNIP

Alright my friend, well look, we wish you all the best, it's really God's Blessing that you survived. It really is.

Yes sir, I completely agree.


Alright James.

We're here for a purpose.


Thankyou very much for calling in, we appreciate it.

Thankyou Mark.


Alright God Bless.

MORE AND AUDIO AT: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/4/863342/-Interview-with-Deepwater-Horizon-Rig-Survivor
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:14 AM
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1. Very nice find. Thanks. n/t
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:21 AM
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2. Couple of Things They Didn't Talk About
Since about 1992 under the Bush Sr admin offshore drilling has been SELF REGULATED. In other words there is no federal oversight.

The BOP (blow off preventer) they were using was not capable of remote activation, once the hard wired connection broke with the surface it could not be shut off. In countries where there's adequate regulation they have acoustic activated BOP's which can be remotely activated without a connection. BP figured they didn't need this superior BOP because it costs a little more and they are self regulated.

Recovering all this oil is a ridiculous assumption. Only 4% of the Exxon Valdez's 11 Million gallons was ever recovered.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:24 AM
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3. Another Audio Link
Warning, note that this is a rabid right wing talk show host that conducted this interview and this is his site


http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1790422&spid=32364
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:05 AM
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8. There is federal oversight of all offshore drilling. MMS.
n/t
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:44 AM
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22. WTH?
Edited on Wed May-05-10 01:45 AM by Kalun D
then what are the "voluntary programs" that the VP of BP is talking about here?

"We are not supportive of the extensive, prescriptive regulations as proposed in this rule," wrote Richard Morrison, BP's vice president for Gulf of Mexico production. "We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics demonstrate that the voluntary programs implemented since the adoption of have been and continue to be very successful."
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:29 AM
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25. MMS
Edited on Wed May-05-10 02:33 AM by Kalun D
Is that the agency run by managers that were all appointed by the bush regime? Yeah dawg, voluntary rules enforced by an oil administration's appointees.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:23 PM
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19. Couple of things you didn't talk about
The design of the BOP most certainly could be shut off. It's designed to be shut off either 1) remotely from operators of the rig, 2) by a deadman switch, or 3) by an unmanned sub. Norway and Brazil require an acoustic switch as the third option, but that is most certainly not the only way to skin a cat. Acoustic switches aren't "self regulated" either. They must be activated by an acoustic signal, which is why they are called "acoustic" switches. The acoustic switch has the advantage of being designed to be activated by a boat on the surface which may be quicker, but the sub activated manual switch has the advantage of being a simpler design. Just because the sub activated switch didn't work in this instance doesn't mean an acoustic switch would have performed any better.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 01:52 AM
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23. Semantics
Edited on Wed May-05-10 01:54 AM by Kalun D
when I say remote I mean without physical connection. When you say remote are you saying because of proximity, like hard wired? Then when there's an accident the line gets cut and you've got no control.

I wasn't referring to the switches being self regulated, referring to the greed pig oil companies.

Of course that acoustic switch is better but it costs more and BP can't be wasting any of their $Billions in profit.

3 different ways to shut off a valve and none of them worked, sounds like poor (OR CHEAP) design to me.

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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:27 AM
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24. What makes you think the acoustic switch is better?
As I stated, there's advantages and disadvantages to each. If the first two options didn't work, there's also a good possibility the acoustic switch wouldn't have worked either for the same reasons. The cost would have been 1% of the total rig cost, or in other words relatively negligible. Norway and Brazil may have other reasons for requiring them, like the unavailability of the remote subs they have in the gulf. I have no idea. There are over 3,500 oil platforms in the gulf. Nothing like this has ever happened before. It may well be that BP was irresponsible or federal regulations were too lax, but those conclusions can't be reached until an investigation determines why the safety systems that were in place didn't work.

Working on assumptions, pointing fingers, and knee jerking now only will minimize whatever meaningful lessons may be learned from the ongoing investigation.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:43 AM
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26. It's Truly Remote
and therefore not as affected by an accident and it's way quicker than a sub. I'm sure time could play a role in something like this

the acoustic switch sounds like the ultimate device

Nothing exactly like this has happened in the Gulf but I thought the recent Australian accident was very similar

I'm working on the assumption that the degregulation craze that's screwed things like Enron and the banks is also at work with the oil companies, after all they are just as sleazy and just as connected to things like the bush crime family.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:38 AM
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27. It remains to be seen how much time would have played a role
The Australian leak was caused by an improperly capped well. This recent leak was on an active well that was transitioning to the production phase.

I have no doubt that oil companies were allowed a lot more freedom under the Bush administration. That's what happens when you elect two alcoholic oil men to the White House and back them with a sympathetic congress. It just remains to be seen if any of that played a part in this disaster. If it did, then we have one more shining example of why it's not a good idea to elect Republicons (as if we needed another). If we blame Bush now and it turns out to be something else, it could be counterproductive towards correcting his fuckups.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 10:26 AM
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28. Can Agree
One thing we are going to find out is whether the Obama admin is just as sold out for the oil companies as they are for banking and health insurance.
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Drill Baby Drill Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:34 PM
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29. Are you kidding me???
Kalun....You obviously have no idea about BOP's.....On a deep water MUX system, there IS a way to activate the BOP in the event that signals from surface are severed. In 100% of all DP MUX systems, if you lose hydraulic and/or electric signals from surface, a DEADMAN circuit will automatically fire and close certain functions on the BOP. In most cases, the blind shear rams and/or casing shear rams will fire via circuitry that is so designed that if you lose for example electric signal, pilot pressure will be vented and cause a series of valves to function and through a series of manifolds use stored hydraulic fluid that is under pressure in N2 charged accumulator bottles to function the afore mentioned shear rams plus other valves, such as choke/kill valves. Also during this process,the riser or LMRP connector as it is called, will function to the unlatch position and as the riser tensioning system on the rig is pulling up wards on this entire seabed system, lift off of the LMRP will occur thus leaving a secured BOP on top of the wellhead. Obviously it is a bit more complex than this but this is a laymen definition. Research your facts before you state incorrect things!!!
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:25 AM
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4. My heart breaks for those 11 Steelworkers.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:10 AM
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9. Steelworkers?
:shrug:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:33 AM
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10. Oil industry workers are often represented by the USW.
I could be wrong about Transocean's, though -- I made an assumption.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:41 AM
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11. In 10+ years in the oilfield, with hundreds of wells drilled
I have never met one union employee, ever.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:06 PM
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14. wow, I live in Alberta and the subs are typically union workers...hard NOT to meet one here. n/t
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:17 PM
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16. I'm sorry to hear that.
If they're organized, they're Steelworkers.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:22 AM
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5. Sounds pretty dangerous even when everything is going OK. n/t
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 10:47 AM
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6. Confirms fishing trip eyewitness account of blowout. Pics:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:02 AM
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7. ttt
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:48 AM
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12. Thanks for posting. Scary stuff. nt
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:00 PM
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13. Sounding more and more like Methane hydrate.....

A publicly available Halliburton PowerPoint presentation from last November might tell us a lot about what could have caused the oil blowout, fire and massive oil gushing at the Horizon rig.

Suppose you’re that division of Halliburton that has the dangerous job of "cementing" the drilling hole and the gaps between the hole and pipe. You’ve done this lots of times in shallow water wells, but you’ve learned through previous experience in deep water there’s a particularly difficult problem having to do with the presence of gas that has seeped to the ocean floor and been captured in essentially "frozen" crystallized formations.

The problem is that when you drill into these formations, and then try to inject cement into the hole/gaps to prevent leakage, the curing process for that creates heat. That heat can, if not controlled, cause the gas to escape the frozen crystals. If a lot of gas is released all at once, as could happen during the cement/curing process, it can cause a blowout where the cementing is occurring, or force gas and/or oil up the pipeline to the drilling rig on the surface. And the heat created by the process may be just enough to ignite the gas , causing the explosion and fire.

Did this happen at the Horizon rig? And if Halliburton already knew about this problem months (years) ago, and knew the risks it might create, why are we just now learning about this?

...

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/44349

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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:09 PM
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15. speachless here...that is some great info there! TY :-) n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:22 PM
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17. Halliburton Transoceana, BP..all doing a great CYA dance.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:03 PM
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18. The lawyers of one of the victims says this interview was set up by BP to limit legal damages.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 08:58 PM
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20. Yes, it aired on the Mark Levin show....nuff said.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:53 PM
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21. Yes
the caller did sound real polished, not your average everyday caller or laboror as far as eloquence and choice of words, sounded more like a lawyer
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