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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:09 AM Original message |
Why don't women collectively rise up against their oppressors? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. We're too interspersed with oppressors and many suffer from the Stockholm syndrome, hence, why women |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thanks. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes. There is, for example, no 'one' or small group of source of information for women - |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. At any given time in our lives, we also have dependent children. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Explain that to the folks further down in the thread. nt |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R, gotta run now, but to see if this goes anywhere. n/t |
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secondwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. traditionally, women -- the caregivers -- are tied down with children, etc. I remember |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The suburbs atomized women. nt |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Now, if it were mom issues like day care, school, health care, time off |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. The women's rights movements of early 20th Cent. were run by wealthy women and lesbians because |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Lesbians don't have to do housework or prepare dinner? |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. ! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Most were unmarried and had no kids. And for those who had families, they were bigger then. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. But it's ridiculous to suggest that lesbians never had to do housework or cook dinner! |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. I don't really care who ran them.. I appreciate having a vote and not being seen as |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. That's right. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
34. "lesbians don't have to do housework or prepare dinner"? wtf? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Few had children and families. Read the history of the women's movement |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. It still doesn't mean the unmarried ones didn't have to cook and clean. |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Exactly! Elizabeth Cady Stanton was actually the main figure in the suffrage fight |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Today, it's men who are at home with the strollers. n/t |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. because women are a gender only with a ton of diversity. In general, |
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Frosty1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
10. We tried |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. yes. one would think, hope that the okl laws would be enough to galvanize |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Funny how this thread has been unrecommended. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:52 AM Original message |
i guess shaming and humiliating women/girls during abortion is a good thing. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
17. Sure seems that way. nt |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Will never be true "equal rights" for women until they start registering women for selective service |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. really this is old and tired. there is not a draft, has not been a draft and doesnt appear |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I see your point, but that's not the issue here. nt |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Yeah, that's worked *so well* to unite, say, black and hispanic men against racism (nm) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You realize that Latinos come in all colors, right? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Thank you for the correction |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. If you read your history you'd find the Civil Rights movement of the 20's and 30's was started by |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
14. There are a lot of women out there |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. What? What was the 20th century about? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. For there to be common ground all things must be equal and |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. +10000 |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
20. This train of thought is part of the problem. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. "we need the support of men to get rid of it."... agree. nt |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. Because in many instances, it's women oppressing other women! |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. The answer is: women don't think of their problems as collective women's problems. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. in other words, too atomized |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Much of what you said, |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. This begs clarification. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. But men have collective, institutional support that women don't have. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I disagree that men are more disinclined to solve their problems collectively. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. Why don't people rise up and burn down HMO headquarters buildings? Why do we |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
29. We've been doing that since the Seneca Convention |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Anyone who aserts gender solidarity is seriously clueless |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. I cannot recommend Gerda Lerner highly enough to you |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
36. Some have, some do |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. word. |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. You would be surprised how many in Oklahoma agree with the new ultrasound law. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Stockholm syndrome. (nt) |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
49. I think you're trying to impress some chick and get laid. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I didn't read the OP's title as meaning that men were necessarily the oppressors. |
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Sparky 1 (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
50. THANKS! Women do most of the shopping. Maybe we should boycott ALL these states? |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-02-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. Good discussion. What happen to feminism? |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
57. excellent question |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
59. In general, because women are the primary child-rearers for the most part |
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