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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:30 PM
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Major League Baseball boycott of AZ?
could happen--- if any of you guys are on Twitter there's already a campaign going there as MLB has about 25-30% Latino players including some of the best in the game.

Daily Kos already has a diary about it--- we need to make this viral

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/4/25/860578/-Join-Major-League-Baseball-Boycott-of-Arizona:-Hit-the-Pocketbooks

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:32 PM
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1. is it on Facebook?
Probably should be there, too.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:34 PM
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2. it was for a few minutes
My friend made a group then all of a sudden it disappeared. If it reappears I will post the link here.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:24 PM
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11. Yeah, please do!
That's one of the few social-networking sites (besides this one, I guess) where I feel I'm even minimally competent.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:59 PM
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18. here you go
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:37 PM
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3. If they play, don't buy tickets, don't watch or listen to the games
and let the Chamber of Commerce know about it as well as the team.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:42 PM
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5. Chamber VERY IMPORTANT, as its members can change things.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:51 PM
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8. The Chamber???? LOL!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:14 PM
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14. This is funnyj?
More like, crucially important, as its members are among those whose businesses survive or not, depending on the commercial situation in their community.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:36 PM
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23. It really is. They are the communicators.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:40 PM
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4. Should we boycott all union workers and products from AZ as well?
or just members of the baseball union in AZ?
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:42 PM
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6. they're calling for baseball to boycott AZ
the next home game in AZ is May 7, also they're due to host the 2011 All Star game.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:55 PM
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9. Union workers in Arizona?
That covers a small part of the population, seeing as Arizona is a "Right to Work" state.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:51 PM
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7. seems that percent is low balling it IMHO
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:23 PM
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10. Along similar lines, DUer wndycty started a facebook page calling for MLB to move the All-Star game
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:17 PM
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15. ABSOLUTELY!
Hit them where it hurts the big guys, force them to recognize importance of the people.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:30 PM
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12. David Zirin went for this a few days ago....
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 02:31 PM by BlooInBloo
http://progressive.org/zirinjune10.html

"As the official Arizona Diamondbacks boycott call states, “In 2010, the National Republican Senatorial Committee’s third highest Contributor was the Arizona Diamondbacks, who gave $121,600; furthermore, they also contributed $129,500, which ranked as the eighteenth highest contribution to the Republican Party Committee.” The team’s big boss, Ken Kendrick, and his family members, E. G. Kendrick Sr. and Randy Kendrick, made contributions to the Republicans totaling a staggering $1,023,527. The Kendricks follow in the footsteps of team founder and former owner Jerry Colangelo. Colangelo, along with other baseball executives and ex-players, launched a group called Battin’ 1000: a national campaign that uses baseball memorabilia to raise funds for a Campus for Life, the largest anti-choice student network in the country. Colangelo was also deputy chair of Bush/Cheney 2004 in Arizona, and his deep pockets created what was called the Presidential Prayer Team—a private evangelical group that claims to have signed up more than 1 million people to drop to their knees and pray daily for Bush.

Under Colangelo, John McCain also owned a piece of the team. The former maverick said before the bill’s passage that he “understood” why it was being passed because “the drivers of cars with illegals in it are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway.”

This is who the Arizona Diamondback executives are. This is the tradition they stand in.

The Diamondbacks’ owners have every right to their politics, and if we policed the political proclivities of every owner’s box there might not be anyone left to root for (except for the Green Bay Packers, who don’t have an owner’s box). But this is different. The law is an open invitation to racial profiling and harassment. The boycott call is coming from inside the state.

If the owners of the Diamondbacks want to underwrite an ugly edge of bigotry, we should raise our collective sporting fists against them. A boycott is also an expression of solidarity with Diamondback players such as Juan Guitterez, Gerardo Parra, and Rodrigo Lopez. They shouldn’t be put in a position where they’re cheered on the playing field and then asked for their papers when the uniform comes off."
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:47 PM
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13. Never happen. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:34 PM
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21. Many people are under the illusion that millionaire minority
sports stars would view civil rights as some sort of cause. They don't. They will let nothing come between them and their paychecks.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:20 PM
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16. I posted this Fan Page to Facebook
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:59 PM
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17. join this group too
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:22 PM
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19. Don't boycott ALL of major league baseball. Hammer the right-wing Arizona Diamondbacks ownership
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 04:28 PM by Better Believe It



Boycott the Arizona Diamondbacks
By Dave Zirin
April 23, 2010
Dave Zirin is the author of “A People’s History of Sports in the United States.” His politics of sports column runs every month in The Progressive magazine. This article is adapted from his upcoming column in the June issue.


This will be the last column I write about the Arizona Diamondbacks in the foreseeable future. For me, they do not exist. They will continue to not exist in my mind as long as the horribly named “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act” remains law in Arizona. This law has brought echoes of apartheid to the state.

One Democratic lawmaker has said that it has made Arizona a “laughingstock” but it’s difficult to find an ounce of humor in this kind of venal legislation. The law makes it a crime to walk the streets without clutching your passport, green card, visa, or state I.D. It not only empowers but absolutely requires cops to demand paperwork if they so much as suspect a person of being undocumented. A citizen can, in fact, sue any police officer they see not harassing suspected immigrants. The bill would also make it a class one misdemeanor for anyone to “pick up passengers for work” if their vehicle blocks traffic. And it makes a second violation of any aspect of the law a felony.

In response, Representative Raul Grijalva, who’s from Arizona itself, has called for a national boycott against the state, saying, “Do not vacation and or retire there.” He got so many hateful threats this week that he had to close his Arizona offices at noon on Friday.

Many of us aren’t in either the imminent vacation or retirement mode. We do, however, live in baseball cities where the Arizona Diamondbacks comes to play.

When they arrive in my hometown in D.C., my back will be turned, and my television will be off. This is not merely because they happen to be the team from Arizona. The D-backs organization is a primary funder of the state Republican Party, which has been driving the measure through the legislature.

As the official Arizona Diamondbacks boycott call states, “In 2010, the National Republican Senatorial Committee’s third highest Contributor was the Arizona Diamondbacks, who gave $121,600; furthermore, they also contributed $129,500, which ranked as the eighteenth highest contribution to the Republican Party Committee.” The team’s big boss, Ken Kendrick, and his family members, E. G. Kendrick Sr. and Randy Kendrick, made contributions to the Republicans totaling a staggering $1,023,527. The Kendricks follow in the footsteps of team founder and former owner Jerry Colangelo. Colangelo, along with other baseball executives and ex-players, launched a group called Battin’ 1000: a national campaign that uses baseball memorabilia to raise funds for a Campus for Life, the largest anti-choice student network in the country. Colangelo was also deputy chair of Bush/Cheney 2004 in Arizona, and his deep pockets created what was called the Presidential Prayer Team—a private evangelical group that claims to have signed up more than 1 million people to drop to their knees and pray daily for Bush.

If the owners of the Diamondbacks want to underwrite an ugly edge of bigotry, we should raise our collective sporting fists against them. A boycott is also an expression of solidarity with Diamondback players such as Juan Guitterez, Gerardo Parra, and Rodrigo Lopez. They shouldn’t be put in a position where they’re cheered on the playing field and then asked for their papers when the uniform comes off.

The full article is at:

http://www.progressive.org/zirinjune10.html

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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:35 PM
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22. can I post this article to the FB group?
n/t
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:38 PM
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24. I don't know why not. It's just an excerpt.
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:05 PM
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26. I wonder what would happen if the D-backs win the World Series?
Chaos perhaps?
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:30 PM
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20. The teams would all forfeit their games.
As I Diamondbacks fan I support this boycott. They will be in first place quickly.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:43 PM
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25. And do you think baseball fans would accept that? Not even Diamondbacks fans would.
A well organized boycott by fans and players would bring the Diamondback ownership to their knees.

And do you really think the Diamondbacks would walk into a World Series victory without winning their division or participating in any playoff games with other boycotting teams?

The Baseball Players Association should take this up and do it soon!
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:10 PM
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27. Baseball fans have accepted replacement players in strike
breaking several times. They are not going to boycott anything. Asking millionaire players to involve themselves in civil rights issues is a fool's errand. It has been tried with Jordan and Woods and many others and they have turned their backs.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 10:02 PM
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28. You're not even close to being right on that. The anti-labor corporate media misled you.

You're knowledge of baseball history is seriously lacking.

In fact, it's just plain wrong.

Here's what really happened when the baseball owners unsuccessfully tried to break the national baseball players strike by using minor league "replacement players".

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The 1994–95 Major League Baseball strike was the eighth work stoppage in baseball history, as well as the fourth in-season work stoppage in 23 years. The 232-day strike, which lasted from August 12, 1994, to April 2, 1995, led to the cancellation of between 931 and 948 games overall, including the entire 1994 postseason and World Series (these numbers account for the fact that postseason series can be of varying lengths; in addition, 12 other games scheduled to be played prior to August 12, 1994 were cancelled for other reasons, mainly weather-related). The cancellation of the 1994 World Series was the first since 1904; meanwhile, Major League Baseball became the first professional sport to lose its entire postseason due to a labor dispute.

The rest of the season, including the World Series, was called off by Bud Selig on September 14. Selig acknowledged that the strike had torn an irreparable hole in the game's fabric. The move to cancel the rest of the season meant the loss of $580 million in ownership revenue and $230 million in player salaries. In 1994, the average MLB salary was an estimated $1.2 million.

On January 1, 1995, five bills aimed at ending the baseball strike were introduced into Congress. Four days later, Donald Fehr declared all 895 unsigned Major League players to be free agents in response to unilateral contract changes made by the owners. On January 10, arbitrator Thomas Roberts awarded 11 players a total of almost $10 million as a result of collusion charges brought against the owners. On January 26, both players and owners were ordered by President Bill Clinton to resume bargaining and reach an agreement by February 6. Unfortunately, President Clinton's deadline came and went with no resolution of the strike. Just five days earlier, the owners agreed to revoke their arbitrarily imposed salary cap and return to the old agreement.

REPLACEMENT PLAYERS

After the deadline passed with no compromises, the use of replacement players for spring training and regular season games was approved by baseball's executive council on January 13. Replacement players (among them, former Boston Red Sox pitcher Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd) were reportedly guaranteed $5,000 for reporting to spring training and another $5,000 if they made the Opening Day roster. Declared Selig, "We are committed to playing the 1995 season and will do so with the best players willing to play."

Baltimore Orioles owner Peter Angelos, on the other hand, announced that his team wouldn't use replacement players (due in no small part to the fact that Cal Ripken, Jr. was going for Lou Gehrig's consecutive games record, but mainly due to Angelos' career as a union side attorney). On March 20, Angelos' Orioles canceled the remainder of their spring training games because of the team's refusal to use replacement players. The next day, the Maryland House of Delegates approved legislation to bar teams playing at Camden Yards from using replacement players.

In addition to Peter Angelos' problems, Detroit Tigers manager Sparky Anderson was put on an involuntary leave of absence as he refused to manage replacement players. Two days after Anderson's punishment, the Toronto Blue Jays assigned manager Cito Gaston and his coaching staff to work with minor league players so that they wouldn't have to deal with replacement players. On March 14, the players' union announced that it would not settle the strike if replacement players were used in regular season games, and if results were not voided. On March 28, the Ontario Labour Board announced that replacement umpires would not be allowed to work Blue Jays home games. Under the Ontario labor law then in force, replacement workers were not permitted to be used during a strike or lockout. The Blue Jays opted to play their home games at their Spring Training facility in Dunedin, Florida as long as replacement players were used.

STRIKE ENDS

On March 29, the players voted to return to work if a U.S. District Court judge supported the National Labor Relations Board's unfair labor practices complaint against the owners (which was filed on March 27). By a vote of 26–2, owners supported the use of replacement players. The strike ended when federal judge Sonia Sotomayor issued a preliminary injunction against the owners on March 31. On Sunday, April 2, 1995, the day before the season was scheduled to start, the 232 day long strike was finally over. Judge Sotomayor's decision received support from a panel of the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which denied the owners' request to stay the ruling.

In 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004, certain players who were part of the World Series-winning New York Yankees, Arizona Diamondbacks, Anaheim Angels and Boston Red Sox were not permitted to have their names or likenesses on commemorative merchandise because they had been declared replacement players for having participated in the 1995 spring training. The players who were noted are Shane Spencer of the 1998, 1999 and 2000 New York Yankees, Damian Miller of the 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks, Brendan Donnelly of the 2002 Anaheim Angels and Kevin Millar of the 2004 Boston Red Sox.

The names or likenesses of replacement players, since they are not permitted to join the MLBPA, may not be published in officially-licensed video and tabletop games. Many games nevertheless include them, with blank or fictional names and different appearances.

One final bookend to the strike's legacy: Sonia Sotomayor, the 2nd Circuit Appeals judge whose injunction ended the strike, was appointed by the President to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States in 2009. MLBPA representatives (most notably David Cone) testified for her at her confirmation hearings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Major_League_Baseball_strike


You wrote:

"Asking millionaire players to involve themselves in civil rights issues is a fool's errand. It has been tried with Jordan and Woods and many others and they have turned their backs."

Arizona's Martin Luther King Day controversy

Super Bowl XXVII was originally scheduled to be played at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Arizona, the home of the Phoenix Cardinals.<2> Immediately after the Cardinals relocated from St. Louis, Missouri to the Phoenix, Arizona area in 1988, the NFL was eager to hold a Super Bowl in that state.

Meanwhile, Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, the United States federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King Jr, was observed for the first time in 1986. However, the holiday was only celebrated in 27 states and the District of Columbia during that first year. Opponents across the nation tried to stop the holiday from being recognized in their own local areas.

In 1986, an Arizona holiday honoring King had been declared by Governor Bruce Babbitt after a bill to create the holiday failed in the state legislature. A year later, though, newly-elected Governor Evan Mecham rescinded the holiday in 1987 on the grounds that the holiday had been illegally created.<3>

Legislation to create the holiday was passed by the state legislature in 1989, but opponents to the holiday succeeded in forcing the holiday to undergo a ballot initiative.<4> Arizona voters rejected the 1990 initiative to create a King holiday.<5>

The NFL, which had an increasing percentage of African American players, and urged by the NFL Players' Association, voted to yank Super Bowl XXVII from Arizona, and awarded it instead to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California.

Faced with the boycott, Arizona voters finally approved the holiday by ballot in 1992, and on March 23, 1993, the NFL awarded Super Bowl XXX (1996) to Tempe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXVII

It was the pressure of NFL football players who demanded the Super Bowl be moved out of Arizona and organized in the NFL Players' Association union, that made the difference. Without their involvement in this civil rights issue that victory would not have been won.
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29. kick
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