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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:32 PM
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AP: Obama's possible SCOTUS Picks
http://us.m.yahoo.com/w/ynews/article/topstories/2%3B_ylt=A2KIPn5jN85LPFkAKgQp89w4?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxml.news.yahoo.com%2Fus%2Fnews%2Frss%2Frichstoryrss.html%3Fu%3D%2Fap%2F20100420%2Fap_on_go_su_co%2Fus_obama_supreme_court&.intl=us&.lang=en


Obama is considering about 10 people for the court.

Among them are federal appeals court judges Diane Wood, Merrick Garland and Sidney Thomas, former Georgia Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears , Solicitor General Elena Kagan , Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm , Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano , and Harvard Law School dean Martha Minow .



Thoughts?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:34 PM
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1. Granholm or Kagan imo, if we have to choose from that list, I'd much prefer Karlan
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:36 PM
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3. I don't know much about Karlan.
I'd be happy to learn.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:04 PM
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4. More here:
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 07:04 PM by usregimechange
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:06 PM
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6. You're right. Karlan would be great!
And Obama probably won't go near her.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:09 PM
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8. The right got their darlings with Roberts and Alito but your right, that being said...
I trust that his choice will be a good one, like it appears Sotomayor is.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:14 PM
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10. Well, we'll see.
Not too keen on Granholme.
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BethCA66 Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:05 PM
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5. Karlan would have to come up with some new jokes. n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:35 PM
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2. I hope he punks the news media and picks someone who is not on that list
Just to send the corporate media into a tizzy.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:12 PM
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9. and make current Republican opposition research completly obsolete...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:07 PM
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7. All signs point to him not being concerned about a "safe" nominee
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:45 PM
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11. I'm hoping he picks Granholm
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:13 PM
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12. Can you tell me more about her views?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:20 PM
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13. The way she wants to force teachers to retire early or cut into their benefits disqualifies her
for me at least :)
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:46 PM
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14. Me too.
The DLC would love Granholm.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:55 PM
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15. The majority of MI DUers would support her nomination:
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:27 PM
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17. MI?
;)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:36 PM
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25. Still consider myself a MI DUer and I don't support her at all.
:hi:
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:48 PM
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16. More of the DLC stufff, huh?
I really wish people on DU would criticize others based on their positions/record and not using some vague, lame DLC epithet.

She's not forcing anyone do to anything. It's a choice. If teacher don't want to retire, they don't have to. Everyone is losing things they were promised...like the autoworkers who gave up so much to be "competitive" with the foreign companies. Most schools district are laying teachers off. Trying to find a way to make it easier by giving people who are willing to retire the opportunity to do so before losing benefits seems like the least bad way of laying off teachers. The situation is horrible but it's the reality we're faced with in MI.

Granholm would make a great justice and I hope she is selected.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:28 PM
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18. It's not an epithet. It's shorthand for a certain set of values.
These values include throwing way too much away.

And your comments about education demonstrate such an ignorance of the issue that I won't comment on them.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:32 PM
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21. People use it as an epithet
I believe your lack of a response to my comment is what reflect ignorance.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:34 PM
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23. Well, I don't.
So don't assume.

It's ignorant to assume. :D

Oh and read madfloridian's posts, will you? You might learn something. :)
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:40 PM
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26. LOL
"I can't respond so I'll let another posters comments speak for me".

You're clearly the one who needs to become informed.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:42 PM
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27. LOL!
"I can't think of anything to attack you with, so I'll attack the fact that you gave me some great information."

You're clearly the one who needs to become informed.

:D
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:48 PM
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28. Aren't you clever
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 10:49 PM by blue_onyx
I'm having a discussion with you, not the other person. Clearly, you aren't informed enough to put together an argument.

BTW, I have seen the person's posts and she lacks credibility. She keeps posting about how nobody support teacher unions and can't see the hypocrisy of driving a non-union vehicle.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:00 PM
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30. Why, yes I am
:D

And since you throw away good information on whims you get about people, I won't bother to post links here. But I do encourage you to read up on anything madfloridian has posted about Arne Duncan, Eli Broad, Bill Gates, Imagine, Green Dot, No Child Left Behind, Race to the Top, or charter schools.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:14 PM
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32. Well...
it's fairly clear that you have no interest in backing up the things you say so I guess we'll just let things be.

Regarding the actual thread topic though...I really hope Granholm gets the nomination, in part to piss off her critics on DU. She would prove you all wrong and be a great justice.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:32 PM
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19. Fuck
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:32 PM
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20. The
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:33 PM
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22. DLC
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:35 PM
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24. The long, clear, inspiring record of Diane Wood
If one were to analogize the search for Justice Stevens' replacement to the recently concluded health care debate, Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Diane Wood would be the public option. Just as the truly left-wing health care approach (a single-payer system) was eliminated from consideration before the process even began, so, too, have the truly left-wing candidates to replace Justice Stevens (Pam Karlan, Harold Koh) been ruled out as "not viable." As a result, the moderate-progressive compromises (i.e., the public option for health care and Diane Wood for Stevens' replacement) are falsely depicted as some sort of liberal extremism, merely because they're the least conservative options allowed to be considered. Contrary to how she's now being cast, Judge Wood is a very cautious and law-based jurist who resides far from the furthest left end of the mainstream judicial spectrum. In fact, one of her most distinctive attributes is the uniform respect and collegial relationships she has with her conservative colleagues on one of the nation's more right-wing courts.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/19/wood/index.html


The case against Elena Kagan
By Glenn Greenwald

(updated below - Update II )

It is far from clear who Obama will chose to replace John Paul Stevens on the Supreme Court, but Elena Kagan, his current Solicitor General and former Dean of Harvard Law School, is on every list of the most likely replacements. Tom Goldstein of SCOTUSblog has declared her "the prohibitive front-runner" and predicts: "On October 4, 2010, Elena Kagan Will Ask Her First Question As A Supreme Court Justice." The New Yorker's Jeffrey Toobin made the same prediction.

The prospect that Stevens will be replaced by Elena Kagan has led to the growing perception that Barack Obama will actually take a Supreme Court dominated by Justices Scalia (Reagan), Thomas (Bush 41), Roberts (Bush 43), Alito (Bush 43) and Kennedy (Reagan) and move it further to the Right. Joe Lieberman went on Fox News this weekend to celebrate the prospect that "President Obama may nominate someone in fact who makes the Court slightly less liberal," while The Washington Post's Ruth Marcus predicted: "The court that convenes on the first Monday in October is apt to be more conservative than the one we have now." Last Friday, I made the same argument: that replacing Stevens with Kagan risks moving the Court to the Right, perhaps substantially to the Right (by "the Right," I mean: closer to the Bush/Cheney vision of Government and the Thomas/Scalia approach to executive power and law).

Consider how amazing it is that such a prospect is even possible. Democrats around the country worked extremely hard to elect a Democratic President, a huge majority in the House, and 59 Democratic Senators -- only to watch as the Supreme Court is moved further to the Right? Even for those who struggle to find good reasons to vote for Democrats, the prospect of a better Supreme Court remains a significant motive (the day after Obama's election, I wrote that everyone who believed in the Constitution and basic civil liberties should be happy at the result due to the numerous Supreme Court appointments Obama would likely make, even if for no other reason).

remainder: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/13/kagan/index.html
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:54 PM
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29. Diane Wood would probably have to be the best option out of those named in the OP
But I would really rather see Karlan or Koh.

Kagan or DLC Granholm just ain't gonna cut it. We cannot allow another right winger on the court.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:04 PM
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31. You'll get no argument from me on that. n/t
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:32 PM
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33. disgusting how the court just overturned ban on selling videos of animal cruelty:
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