Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Does anyone feel sorry for Senator John McCain?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:44 AM
Original message
Does anyone feel sorry for Senator John McCain?
Senator McCain has changed a lot in the past two years. Especially after Palin. McCain had a lot of integrity. He was the true maverick by going against his party bosses and sticking his head out for campaign finance reform, something republicans look at like it's Ebola. It's obvious McCain is in a different political climate that he is used to dealing with. He is trying to cater to the most extreme, and McCain is going against every fiber in his body and it is showing wear on his objectivity and ability to reason at all. He's caught up in the right wing hate machine and he hasn't found a way to climb out of it. He looks lost and when he speaks it's not the John McCain of just a few years ago. Whatever a person thinks about him, remember, the things he is saying now he will always regret later. I just hope he takes back the person he was. He needs to stand up to the tea baggers. He could be a leader by telling the truth about the tea party. He would have a forum. And he could end this entire spiral of hate we are in. He is just about the only person in the republican party who could carry the stature to change their party, and stand up to the lunatics in their extreme ranks. McCain needs to have a national address to the nation condemning the hatred from the right. He needs to condemn conservative talk show hosts whose only function is to spread fear, hatred, anger, racism and rage, blind rage. Then McCain needs to attack Fox News and tell the world the network is a fraud.

McCain, you still have a chance to redeem yourself and take back that part of yourself that made you a great man. Don't miss this opportunity John.
Find yourself and save your nation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. i'm sorry, but no- i do not feel sorry for mccain--
he rides the elephant till it gets mired down and then he switches positions on the elephant ---and then months/years later- switches positions again---

he either listens to 'advisors' too much---or doesn't listen at all--or changes advisors --who the hell knows.....

he can no longer be relied on to be a politician of the people.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
45. You want me to feel sorry for a lousy gold digger.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 09:29 AM by olegramps
This asshole got into the Naval Academy because his father and grandfather were admirals. He would have been kick out except for the his father's influence. He graduated at the bottom of his class and is the archetypal example of a privileged underachieving brat, just like Bush. War hero? He was a lousy pilot that just happened to get shot down. When he comes home, he sees his wife has been crippled and he is out of there drinking and screwing anything that will tolerate him. He finally marries a women that can buy him an election and a little respectability. His character was fully revealed when in desperation he chose Palin as his running mate. The thought that they could be elected and that he could croak leaving her in charge would have been a nightmare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
2. At one time I liked him & respected him. I remember him
apologizung for lying in SC when he said the State could dcide about flying the confederate flag over their State House. I remember when he fought against his own Party many times for what he believed in. Something happened to him when he got the nomination for the Pub Presidential candidate. There's no way he would have chosen the barracuda as a running mate. He's NOT the same man that you speak about and I no longer have any respect for him at all. I can't think of anything he could say or do to regain that respect.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:57 AM
Response to Original message
3. Fuck no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:02 AM
Response to Original message
4. McCain changed back when he ran for President and they gave it to bush - he sold his soul
up until that point, I thought he was a worthwhile human being - now - not so much -
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:03 AM
Response to Original message
5. He NEVER had any integrity. He is a giant POS.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
61. Amen
McCain cheated on his first wife at every opportunity, and then finally dumped her after she nursed him back to health while being disabled herself. When she was no longer the tall beautiful model he married, he dropped her like a dirty sock for a younger, more attractive, and richer woman. McCain then went to bat for his rich friend during the S&L scandal and never once offered to even partially repay all the old people who were swindled by Keating, thanks to his help. The only time he has ever bucked the GOP is when he thought it would be politically advantageous for him to do so. Anytime he ever went against the GOP on a controversial issue, he quickly reversed himself when he caught too much flack from the right.

He's an asshole, through and through, with no hope of redemption.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #5
66. Yep.
Stupid, and without a moral compass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:03 AM
Response to Original message
6. Not at all
He is responsible for his disgusting actions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #6
23. Precisely
It's about taking responsibility for one's actions and in my opinion has never really had to do so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:04 AM
Response to Original message
7. Don't hold your breath
He lost all credibility as a serious politician when he picked Sarah Yep Yep for his VP. Back in 2000 I thought he was much preferable to GW. But Ithink he was just another legacy boy with a good story. The RW spin machine trashed him and he just sucked it up rather than expose them for the slime that they were/are.

It was clear he was not comfortable during his rally with Palin but it just shows how far he is willing to go to stay in office. I honestly don't know what the guy believes in any more. Instead of standing up to the teabaggers he grovels at the feet of their queen and lets her make fun of him.

It really is time for him to retire to one of his many houses. He's already stated that he has no plans to do any work between now and the 2010 elections. He's not the only person who ever lost a presidential bid and had to remain in office. HE has a job to do and needs to do it.

As much as I wish John McCain would follow your advice, I don't see it happening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:07 AM
Response to Original message
8. I never understood why the media and the public
bought this entitled, privileged jerk's bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Because he's a "war hero", and we love the miltiary...
..except when it comes to actually, you know, taking care of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:16 AM
Response to Original message
10. Deserting his sick wife and kids is a lot of intregrity?
You must not have followed his life before 2008 or 2000.
Keating 5? His adopted daughter's slight? kooks? Bomb bomb iran? His vietnam and naval history

There is just too much history to type on my iTouch right now
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
11. Nope. Not one fucking bit.
I used to be one of his biggest apologists here.

After what he pulled during the election, he can shuffle off to a rest home as far as I'm concerned.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
12. Not me.
He seems always to have been the most fiercely ordinary man who presents himself as a hero.

His experience is not particularly exceptional. His insight and judgment aren't particularly keen. And he's goddam boring as well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
13. duplicate. Weird.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 01:21 AM by cliffordu
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:27 AM
Response to Original message
14. "Find yourself and save your nation."
McCain's not the man to do that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 05:16 AM
Response to Reply #14
27. Exactly!
Who gives a rats ass about McCain anyway? I certainly don't. Pre or post Palin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:36 AM
Response to Original message
15. Why are you erecting this statue here?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:37 AM
Response to Original message
16. I heard someone say he was not as 'Mavericky' as he used to be.
Oh, that was McCain. Nevermind.

Feel sorry for him? Let me reach across the aisle to say,...no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:38 AM
Response to Original message
17. Integrity? John McCain? LOL! No. Nuh uh. Not so.
And after watching him carry water for George W. Bush for 8 years in the sure and certain promise of being next if he just played ball, it is SWEET to see him so screwed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:39 AM
Response to Original message
18. Hell No.
Especially when he stood there and let Caribou Barbie whip up racist sentiment during their town hall meetings and campaign rallies. And he clearly displayed his contempt for not only Blacks and Asians, but all people of color.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:05 AM
Response to Original message
19. My hubby used to really like him until Sarah Palin.I have in-laws who were faithful Repubs til Palin
I used to be neutral on the guy until all the dirt about his past started to come up, then I was rather disgusted. But I'm a lifelong Democrat and never would have voted for him in the first place, so that didn't matter.

But for me, neutrality went right out the window when he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. (Are you detecting a theme here?)

John McCain is OLD, and his health is lousy. His temper is nasty and sometimes he talks and acts like he's no longer all there mentally. If he were to have won the presidency, with his lousy health there is a very good chance he would not have survived two years, much less four, and then the nation would have been stuck with President Caribou Barbie and Co-President Tawd. And that damned John McCain was willing to put us all at risk for WHAT?

He sold his soul a long time ago in whatever Faustian bargain seemed right to him. Good luck to him getting it back. I just hope he retires or is voted out very soon, and then good luck to Cindy.

Hekate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:10 AM
Response to Original message
20. Then McCain needs to attack Fox News and tell the world the network is a fraud.
Like Colburn did, and was on Bill'O show tonight, and said what he "really" meant. LOL! Of course Faux is fair and balanced. LOL! Kiss Kiss Kiss. McCain brought us Palin. I feel sorry for us. The only good thing is Tina Fey. We need her to tone down these assholes to maybe "see" what a fool Palin really is. Although I don't know how they missed her performance during the elections.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:11 AM
Response to Original message
21. Nope.. he could have been president if he had run against Clinton in 1996
but he waited his turn, and by the time he ran again in 2000, he was too old and junior had gotten the secret handshake.

McCain should have retired when he lost in 2000..

He's a greedy, stubborn old man.. a mean one at that..

he also was no war hero.. he got himself shot down, and did what any pow would try to do..survive.

The story about how he refused to be released had more to do with not shaming his pappy, than solidarity with his fellow pows..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:14 AM
Response to Original message
22. I feel sorry for America b/c he unleashed Palin on us & he is still standing by her. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:43 AM
Response to Original message
24. I feel sorry that he's a pathetic sour-faced whiny loser
Who lies every chance he gets

"What has a man profited if he shall gain the world and lose his immortal soul."
It's a passage from the Bible he should take to heart
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:35 AM
Response to Original message
25. No. I used to admire him, till I read many articles on what he is really like -
He has no business in office at all, he is real trash.

mark
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:36 AM
Response to Original message
26. Fuck no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 05:23 AM
Response to Original message
28. Can't Fell Sorry For The Man
who unleashed Palin on us. Nope, no way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 05:23 AM
Response to Original message
29. Why are you beating up the poor o p?
Janeane Garofalo wanted him for vice pres, John Kerry too.

Oh, he looks pathetic with his groveling. I liked him when he was all mavericky. He was hilarious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:07 AM
Response to Original message
30. Not here. Any integrity he had has long since washed away.
He thought Sarah Palin was his ticket to the White House.

Thank God that ticket went down in flames.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:40 AM
Response to Original message
31. He'll have a few years in retirement
to take stock of his life. I don't think he'll survive the primary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:42 AM
Response to Original message
32. McCain never had integrity. That was a well-crafted myth.
Keating 5.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
33. NO i BLAME the bastard for unleashing the shrew on america
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:52 AM
Response to Original message
34. McCain was never who you think he was
We're just seeing him for what he really is now. He may have gone against the Republicans in the past but it was usually to be worse than they were. He was never on the liberal side of anything.

Who do 'maverick' represent as politicians? I've always found they only represent their own interests.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:57 AM
Response to Original message
35. When McCain was a "Maverick"
it was because that role worked for him. It doesn't work now. I didn't trust him then and I don't trust him now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #35
46. McCain gave up his soul when he kissed & made up with Bush in 2000...
Bush, Rove and gang assassinated McCain's character and even military service during the 2000 republican primaries. But then when McCain lost to Bush in the South Carolina primary he gave in and then hugged Bush. No one with their character intact would ever make peace with someone who attacked his family, his children, his military record and his mental stability. McCain didn't even get a public apology from Bush for the ambush of hate directed toward him. And if you remember, during the Carolina primaries those pious, righteous 'Christians' manned phone banks calling people to tell them blatant lies about McCain, even attacking one of his children.

NOTE: During the republican primary in Iowa Bush beat McCain by getting close to 95% of the vote. McCain received about 5%. The reason: The republicans in Iowa wanted to keep their government subsidies. McCain was against continuing the subsidies, but Bush pandered to the greedy republicans by promising to keep the government's cash register open for them to loot. Conservatives 'say' they are against government and government spending, unless they are getting the money. That Iowa primary showed the true colors of a conservative republican. I'm surprised the media didn't even mention that contradiction in 'principles'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:01 AM
Response to Original message
36. Until he apologizes for giving Palin national exposure I could care less about McCain
Even after poll after poll shows that the public (including a considerable number of Republicans) considers Palin unqualified for the presidency McCain continues to defend her presence on the national stage.

McCain could have easily chosen another candidate as a concession to the religious element of the part (Huckabee for example) or any number of qualified female politicians but he chose someone exclusively on her ability to get the MILF-motivated voter.

That act alone should wipe out any "good" McCain may have done over his career. Also, history should hold McCain accountable for any damage Palin does should she ever obtain national office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #36
43. Exactly! He turned out to be an idiot and he's sticking with it...
he gets nothing from me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #43
55. Agree, he should apologize for unleashing Palin on us...
And he should be truthful in his reasons for picking her. If McCain savagely attacked Palin and called her the dunce she is it might end a lot of the idiotic speculations that she is a presidential contender. The 'liberal media' keeps hyping her as a potential candidate and promoting her when they should just turn off their cameras and refuse to follow Palin around. How can anyone believe Palin is presidential material? I never thought I would say this, but she is even stupider than Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:04 AM
Response to Original message
37. No... and I'm still mad at him
for unleashing that beast Palin on the lower 48
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
38. Yes, Now That You Mention It, I Do.
He used to be a man of principal. A Republican, to be sure, but a "pure" Republican, who didn't willingly align himself to the loony religious base, who felt government should be concerned with fiscal, not moral issues, and who was unapologetically critical of ANY proposal with which he did not agree, whether it came from the left OR the right. He demonstated a willingness to work with colleagues from across the aisle that has all but disappeared over the last decade or so. He was a man who genuinely cared about this country, and who routinely put its needs over political manuevering.

And somewhere along his path to power, he allowed himself to be seduced by the notion that he must toe his party's line in order to acheive his goals; that he must pander to the lowest intellects and ideologies in America in order to save it. He ceased to be an admirable man, and became just another political shill. Sadly, he wasn't the first or the last to fall victim to political "pragmatism".

On the plus side, he introduced the world to Sarah Palin, who is the single biggest threat to the Republican party since Richard Nixon. Well done, Senator. Well done.

And no, I'm afraid McCain's hero days are behind him. He's too old, and losing the election took too much out of him; he'll never be a truly respected figure within the Republican party again. Such are the perils of selling your soul.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:13 AM
Response to Original message
39. You mean the original Mr. Cash for Clunkers, when he dumped his disabled wife for an heiress
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:17 AM
Response to Original message
40. Sorry, but I never saw McCain as anything but an opportunistic phony to begin with.
He's a befuddled old fool who should have retired from the Senate long ago, instead of going out in a public death spiral. I had assumed the GOP Presidential candidate nomination, in an election where the GOP had almost 0% chance of winning, was designed to be his swan song, and an effort to save "candidate Romney" for an election year with better prospects for the GOP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #40
53. Actually, had the economy not collapsed McCain may have easily won
People forget that McCain, even after selecting Palin for VP, was either pulling even or slightly ahead of Obama shortly after the conventions.

It was only when the economy cratered and McCain's reaction was to stumble around and "postpone" his campaign that Obama started to pull ahead again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #53
70. I had not forgotten that, it's just that I realize
a large portion of the voting public is brain dead...so I just discounted it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
41. No.
He sold his soul forever in 2004.

Plus, he forced Sarah Palin on to the scene.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
42. No.
My Republican empathy well ran dry long ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joe black Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:12 AM
Response to Original message
44. NO
Old and stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
47. Who?



Isn't he that guy that crashed all those Navy jets?


:eyes:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
48. I don't think you realize McCain has done some pretty bad shit in his life
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/07/1504434.aspx

McCain: Examining Keating

Posted: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:08 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The AP looks at Keating. "The Republican senator's lawyer in the case, John Dowd, told reporters in a conference call Monday that McCain had been the victim of 'a political smear job' by Senate Democrats. When a reporter noted that McCain himself has spoken contritely about his role, Dowd responded, 'I'm his lawyer and I have a different view of it.'"

More: "Once close to Keating, McCain received $112,000 from him, his family and associates. The senator and his family also flew in Keating's plane to the Bahamas and -- in the events that triggered the Senate investigation -- took up his cause with financial regulators as they were investigating the businessman. Keating eventually went to prison. McCain eventually repaid $112,000 to the U.S. Treasury and reimbursed Keating for the trips. The irony of the Keating case is that McCain received the mildest ethics committee rebuke of the five senators in 1991, and was kept as a defendant because he was the only Republican. The special counsel in the case had recommended that McCain and one of the Democrats be dropped as defendants. But Democrats, who controlled the Senate, refused to take all the heat for the scandal and all five remained in the case to the end."

And once six-degrees games are brought up, there are more where those came from… AP writes: "McCain has past connections to a private group that supplied aid to guerrillas seeking to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua in the Iran-Contra affair. … The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe. The council's founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:23 PM
Response to Original message
49. Why doesn't he just retire and live in one of his 9 houses? Sorry?
When he apologizes, I may give him some respect. But sorry? For that lying greedy insensitive war monger? Are you crazy?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
50. No, I never felt he had integrity. And he always gave me the creeps
I got bad vibes off him every time I saw him interviewed. My husband criticized me because I compared him to Raymond Shaw in "The Manchurian Candidate" (1962 version) - he just felt "off" to me. And Cindy McCain reminds me of Angela Lansbury's character - Raymond's mother.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:29 PM
Response to Original message
51. He just said 'It's time to pull the trigger on Iran.' AND, remember the
Bomb, bomb, bomb
Bomb, bomb Iran...

I don't feel sorry for him at all. There's no reason to.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
52. Oh hell no. Not after he unleashed that hateful
queen of screech to continue her reign of terror across the land.

Sorry, I'm just not feeling it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. McCain seems to be mentally confused and clueless where he is...
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 02:34 PM by AnArmyVeteran
Can you imagine how he would be if he was the president? And with Palin waiting in his shadow hoping McCain would die so she could opportunistically step in and be president. That thought is terrifying to me... Yet, that is exactly what conservatives want. It's obvious they couldn't care less about the country. All they care about is their own corrupt, soulless political party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
64. The mere thought of that scenario sends chills
down my spine.

Beyond the prospect of that near disaster, the GOP has proven it cannot be trusted to govern. period.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:53 PM
Response to Original message
56. No,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:55 PM
Response to Original message
57. McCain has always been a POS...fuck him
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
58. McCain fired up the right wing hate machine by unleashing Sarah "End Times" Palin on the world
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 03:02 PM by Turborama
I don't see why anyone should feel sorry for him now that the monster he created is out of control. He owns the right wing hate fest that's been going on during/since the election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:05 PM
Response to Original message
59. No and I'll never forgive him for unleashing Palin on the country.
He should just go away and enjoy his wife's money for the rest of his life.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onpatrol98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
60. I'm not feeling sorry for him at the moment...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
62. Jesus, no
He is a horrible human being.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
63. I kind of do.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 03:24 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
Way back in the day, he seemed a much more traditional GOPer, someone who was certainly conservative but not unreasonable.

Sadly his desire for the Presidency made him go around the political bend. He fully embraced those who he had known to be bad for his Party and bad for the country. He espoused views that I am not sure even he believed in to win votes. And he finally ran himself into the political gutter when he brought someone even he knew to be wholly unqualified onboard his campaign.

And now he says he never claimed to be any kind of "maverick".

It is a very sorry slide in political irrelevance that man has taken.

I would be more sad if he had genuinely been trying to do the right thing and failed instead of completely sold himself out to do it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
65. I feel sorry for his first wife, the one he ditched for the blonde beer heiress!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
67. Is this like The World's Worst Joke thread or something?
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 04:24 PM by BlooInBloo
Who the fuck would feel sorry for Crazy Old Man Yelling At Clouds?

He was never a maverick - look at his voting record.

McOlderThanDirt is a worthless piece of shit, has been for decades, and it was all his choice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:29 PM
Response to Original message
68. I wish his cheek would finally explode
and out us all out of our misery.

NO! He gave us Palin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #68
74. LOL!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
69. I do have a soft spot for McCain,
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 04:52 PM by miscsoc
and I think a lot of people, including a lot of non-americans, do as well. He reminds me a lot of Winston Churchill - I don't mean that wholly as praise. I hope he ditches the right wing doctrine - it doesn't suit him. Although even when he expresses his real opinions he's a bit of a prick - but at least a sort of admirable and semi-genuine one, with a sort of charismatic stubborness.

It would be good for him to lose the GOP primary in AZ, it might force him to be himself.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
71. No. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
72. Maybe if he says F*CK YOU to Sarah Palin at his concession speech
and goes off on the repugs and teabaggers. That would be great TV :) :popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
73. Nope. (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 06:48 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC