Advocating violence against America is treasonous, got that GOP? Got that Sarah?

[Union Yes]

Got that Beckkk?

Got that Rush?

Got that Fox News?

Got that Teabaggers?

All of the above have advocated for or given license to violence against America.

[BanzaiBonnie]

1. Why do they hate America?

[Union Yes]

3. It ain't the 1950's anymore is my first guess.

[unblock]

6. 1950s, hell. it ain't the 1890s is why they're so pissed.

the robber barons could do what they wanted and were admired for doing so.

in fact, a good chunk of them probably long for the 1830s.

[Bluzmann57]

2. Now see, that's where you're wrong.

Advocating violence against this country is only treasonous if us darn Liberals do it. When all the entities you listed do it, they're just kidding or talking in abstract or some ridiculous shit like that.

[Union Yes]

4. I humbly lay down my keyboard..

But, before I go to my corner I just wanted to grab the hive and give it a good shake.

[harkadog]

5. What would you say about the 1960s?

When every march or demonstration that I was part of advocated violence against America?

[PCIntern]

7. The you weren't at my peaceful marches which advocated change

through governmental fiat and Congressional voting, not insurrectionist, armed revolution.

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[Cleita]

8. No the marches were to end the war not cause harm to the President

and Congress. I think that is the difference. Putting up a photo of Obama with a rifle's cross hairs photo shopped over it is an incitement to violence against a sitting President and should be regarded as treason IMHO.

[harkadog]

10. So when SDS adopted the slogan "Bring the War Home!"

They meant no harm to anyone? People love to conjure up alternative realities and they then convince themselves that it is actually true.

[SteveG]

11. The Weatherman Faction of SDS

did advocate violence and set off a couple of small bombs.

[harkadog]

17. They killed several people with those "small bombs".

They set off many bombs around the country.

[KonaKane]

25. "Several"?

Outside of one policeman casualty, I cannot find another single death directly attributed to The Weather Underground. I'm not excusing the violence, but just questioning the inflated casualty numbers often attributed to the WUO campaign. Any contrary information you have would be appreciated.

[harkadog]

33. That they didn't kill many is mark of their incompetence.

When they blew 3 of themselves up in New York (I guess they don't count) they were preparing bombs to be used at a dance at Ft. Dix. They wanted to kill as many soldiers and their girlfriends as possible. They killed a math grad student at the U of Wisconsin when they blew up the building he was in. Left a wife and 2 kids. They killed a policeman in SF when they bombed his station (that case has recently been re-opened to examine Dohrn and Ayer's role and a grand jury has been empaneled. In one of their final acts Kathy Boudin, daughter of Weatherman financier Lenard Boudin, helped kill 3 cops in a robbery.

[Cleita]

15. Most of us did not join with the radicals nor approved of their

methods, which IMHO are equally bad. I'm an environmentalist and have joined protests in the Northwest against destructive logging and mining practices before I got too old to do so, but I do not condone the actions of a small group of radicals who go too far, liking spiking trees. However, in either of those instances I have never heard any group wanting to harm the elected officials of our government even when Bush/Cheney were in power. Although, the white supremacist movement does regularly try to undermine our governments from local to federal by telling their followers to love their country and fear their government and that the laws don't apply to them so go ahead and carry guns in public and assault brown people. To them it's okay. Now tell me just which groups are committing treason?

[harkadog]

18. I read many, many, many posts on DU advocating the

execution of Bush/Cheney. Maybe you weren't reading DU at the time. I thought those posters were immature and stupid but other than that it didn't bother me.

[Cleita]

21. Those posts got deleted, locked and often the posters were tombstoned.

I guess you don't remember that. Most of us still want them investigated, charged with treason and war crimes and put on trial for them. It's known as justice. If Obama had done the same things they did to our Constitution I would want him charged with treason too. No one has ever advocated shooting them down like putting Obama in the cross hairs of a rifle, a picture, that only indicates one thing, assassination of our President. Even if the posters were immature and stupid, that should have bothered you and you should have alerted on those posts like many of us did.

[harkadog]

24. This is an internet message board.

It is not making policy or changing the world. I don't 'alert' for anything.

[Initech]

12. This is my problem with pundits.

The M$M isn't out to just play left and right against each other - they want a fucking civil war. And Beck and Rush, while they've never advocated it - they've managed to polarize both to the point where one powder keg could be what does it.

[activa8tr]

13. Round them all up, bring them in, charge them with TREASON, or conspiracy

to commit treason.

Lock them up, given them a lawyer, no bail, no calls to other potential "conspirators".

Bring them to trial, play their own words back to them. Convict them, sentence them, long terms for each.

My ultimate fantasy! But of course, doing so would unleash a couple million teabagging gun weilding idiots who would come out to "fight the guvment" that locked up Sarah and Rush and Hannity, and Beck, and all the rest of their staff.

It WOULD be wonderful, but I doubt we will ever charge these lugs with crimes.

[harkadog]

19. And I thought LBJ and Nixon had died.

Turns out they are posting on DU. Who knew?

[activa8tr]

32. Did you bother your beautiful mind to read my entire post?

Evidently not!

[harkadog]

34. Yes I did.

The only reason you don't want to do it is because you think it would not be practical and there would be a backlash. Otherwise full speed ahead!

[Better Believe It]

27. Be careful what you wish for. Mainly the "left" and radicals will be targeted by the government

under such "sedition" and "treason" and "anti-violence" laws.

[Bitwit1234]

14. I think you people should say why does the Secret Service and FBI

hate democrats. If they did their job, this crap would be stopped by now. But when they sit on their ass and only go after someone when they threaten republicans what do you expect. Look at how they went after Code Pink when they told rove he was under citizen's arrest. But yet you haven't heard one word about the woman who threaten Grayson's son, or any of the others. How about cutting a gas line, which is in effect attempted murder. If the FBI was into it, they would be caught by now and don't tell me they couldn't get the telephone callers.

My telephone company told me that even tho people block their telephone number they have ways to trace it. They can not trace a call for you or me unless you get a court order and then you have to prosecute the person. But that they can do it. So why are the S.O.B.'s that threaten the democrats sitting in jail now. Because they threatened Democrats and not republicans.

[Cleita]

16. +1

[harkadog]

20. How did the Secret Service and FBI go after Code Pink?

From all accounts that were posted on DU there was not any problems at all.

[Cleita]

22. Read the news much?

It was a code pink person who attempted the arrest.

[harkadog]

23. Since the poster did not reply I'll try you.

How did the Secret Service and the FBI go after Code Pink at the Rove affair? Were either one of those agencies even there? Did they beat the Code Pink person? Did they arrest the Code Pink person? I doubt you have read a thing about this.

[Cleita]

29. There were videos of it up on this website.

Here's the Google page on it. Take your pick of links.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Cod...

[harkadog]

30. I've seen the links. Apparently you have not.

Where was the FBI? Not there. Where was the Secret Service? Not there. Even the video announcer said there was no security there. So how was Code Pink attacked by the FBI and the Secret Service as the poster stated? He/she and you are dead wrong.

[mstinamotorcity]

26. They don't hate America

They just love money more.They are using peoples fears to agitate them so they can get paid. Let me explain it to you in plain english not trying to offend anyone its just how it is.
You see if you are a big corporation and you are making billions of dollars and you are an executive and you are enjoying the life of luxury with mansions,trips around the world,expensive clothes,exclusive clubs,prestigious schools,front row seating,health care,tax cuts you will do anything to retain it.
So what does big corp do. They hire a weasel that studies the intended target and find out how to negatively impact any type of useful legislation that goes against their way of life. Meaning if you don't want a public run insurance plan you hire Dick Armey and Freedomworks and Beth M. And start telling Seniors that they are on the list for death panels.Tell white people that black folks are the ones who banned together and put President Obama in the white house just because he is black. Doesn't matter to the Rush Limpdick's of this world that our President is Half Caucasian.You throw out words like ,Hitler,Socialist,Second Amendment repeal and anything that will cause dissent in any form and then you get the media to cover it like it was a grass roots effort and that there is some validity to the points in question.When really all you did was take a persons fears and turn them into points when they have nothing to do with the actual legislation
Then you contribute large sums of money to political candidates to make sure legislation stays in your favor.And they in turn come out and tell America its bad for the country.Like dependence on foreign oil while purchasing billions of gallons constantly and voting against green energy development to deal with climate change and global warming.

[WhiteTara]

28. Got that FBI? Local Police? State Bureas?

These are the ones who should be stepping up to the plate and noticing what is going on.

[Rage Inc.]

31. Probably not.

They've got their heads too far up their asses!