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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:50 PM
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Why Pope Benedict's Got to Go (Boston Herald)
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:03 PM by louis c
The Boston Herald today had a column by Margery Eagan that hits the nail right on the head.

It sums up my feelings 100%

Link to Herald column:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/20100327why_pope_benedicts_got_to_go/srvc=home&position=0
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:52 PM
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1. The HERALD?
Oh, my.

The problem is that there is no one at the level of Bishop or above who is not tainted by the policy of the church to hide pedophiles and maximize their access to children instead of defrocking them and turning them over to the civil authorities.

Every single one of those old boys either did it or knew about it and said nothing.

Fish rot from the head down and in the case of the Church, that head is Rome. There is nothing they can do to stop the rot. It is pervasive.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:01 PM
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2. Enough to make one wonder if the hierarchy of the holy Roman Church is wholly,
holistically, and ubiquitously corrupted. :shrug:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:12 PM
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17. Probably not 100% corrupted.
There might be a few decent bishops, archbishops and cardinals here and there. If so, I feel very sorry for them because they are definitely in the minority.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:17 PM
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18. And the majority rules
:-)
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:01 PM
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3. The Herald? This is the equivalent...
...of The National Review embracing the proposition that property is theft.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:06 PM
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4. K&R
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:14 PM
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5. He acts like a fucking Nazi. Fuck him and his church and I was born and raised Catholic.
rec'd
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:22 PM
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6. I hope I'm not wearing out my welcome, but I've been WEARING on pope-us maximus forEVAH!1
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:23 PM by UTUSN


*************QUOTE**********

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1728239,00.html

The Heartthrob from the Vatican


By Jeff Israely/Rome

When Pope Benedict XVI touches down for his first papal visit in the United States next week, you may notice that he doesn't have the same onstage flair as his predecessor, John Paul II. But you may also begin to notice a very handsome man of the cloth never far from the pontiff's side. That would be Monsignor Georg Gänswein, the Pope's personal secretary, responsible for everything from deciding who gets to see Benedict, to keeping His Holiness on schedule, to discreetly handing him his papal reading glasses just before a homily or other public discourse. While he is the paradigm of discretion, others have taken liberties with his image. Fashion designer Donatella Versace said her Spring 2007 collection was inspired by Gänswein, confessing: "I was thinking of an austere, severe and ethical man. I find Father Georg's austerity very elegant."

Italians have taken notice of Gänswein, and nicknamed him "Bel Giorgio," which Americans might translate as: Gorgeous George. Paparazzi have snapped photos of him playing tennis in his tennis whites, while the Roman and Bavarian press eagerly report his bravura on the ski slopes and appearances at evening Church functions. Nevertheless, despite the glamour imposed on him by the celebrity press, the tall, athletic and dirty-blond Monsignor in his clerical black, concentrates on his pivotal but quiet job choreographing papal appearances. And that is how Americans will see him, in a supporting role buoyed by his scene-stealing good looks. ....



http://disembedded.wordpress.com/2006/11/18/pope-benedict-issues-formal-vatican-decree-a-smile-is-not-a-sin/

Pope Benedict Issues Formal Vatican Decree: A Smile Is Not a Sin


November 18, 2006

POPE BENEDICT AND MSGR. GANSWEIN, THE POPE’S DEVOTED PERSONAL SECRETARY


The New York Times published an article today that disclosed some of the jokes making their rounds about Pope Benedict and his secretary, Msgr. Georg Ganswein. This brief extract from the Times article describes some of those satirical moments:

Perhaps it is his good looks, or his work in the ever-so-serious Vatican, but for whatever reason, Msgr. Georg Gänswein, Pope Benedict XVI’s secretary, has suddenly found himself the butt of jokes in the Italian news media. ....

In a curious “non-response” to this growing wave of satire, the pope’s secretary told his radio audience that “the Vatican was not offended.” “We’re convinced that smiles bring religion closer to the people,” he said, “because a smile is never a sin.”


Pope is Wrong: This One’s Very Sinful.


In response to the Times article, Andrew Sullivan published this irreverent, biting criticism of the article (and the Pope) today on his Time Magazine blog, The Daily Dish:

“The NYT runs a very curious article today about Italian humor about the current Pope. None of the jokes cited seem to me to be very risque or even funny. The entire argument of the piece is undermined by lack of any real evidence that this pope is subject to any more ridicule than has historically been the case. Except of course for that photograph (see above, seated with Msgr. Georg Ganswein). It shows the actual source of the jokes circulating in the Vatican and elsewhere about this Prada-preferring, Gucci-wearing, high-drama German intellectual (Pope). The actual jokes – which the NYT won’t print – are about how good looking so many of the men are who surround Benedict, especially his personal assistant, Msgr. Georg Gänswein, shown holding the large phallic microphone in front of Benedict’s face. The Vatican gossip merchants call Georg 'Gay-Org.' He is inseparable from Benedict. And he surely is easy on the eyes. There is no evidence that Benedict has ever broken his vows of chastity; but there is no evidence that he is heterosexual either. Hence the gossip; hence the jokes. When you’re a Pope who declares that even closeted, chaste gay men cannot be priests, it’s pushing your luck to clothe yourself in Prada, bedeck your Pope-mobile with luxurious Natuzzi Italian white leather, and surround yourself with assistants who look like they strayed from the pages of 'L’Uomo Vogue.'

"Butch it up, sister. Or the jokes will only get louder.”

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Padre Alberto CUTIE:

Video of beach romp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf6rXBnLc3Y&feature=rela...

Him preaching Prodigal Son: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAww8sol5I&feature=rela...


And then there's THIS creepazoid:
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http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/legion-christs-father-maciel-father-mexican-men-molested/story?id=10009430

Father Maciel Is Our Father, Say Two Mexican Men, And He Molested Us


Two Men Claim That Founder of Catholic Order Legion of Christ, Already Disgraced by Pedophilia Charges, Used Fake Name in Long Relationship With Their Mother

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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:23 PM
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7. I don't understand why this is focusing on a few men in the Vatican.
So much of this has been common knowledge among priests, nuns and lay people for generations (or longer). Sixty five years ago there was an incident at St. Peter's Prep in Jersey City. A priest molesting several boys. They were brought with there families to a meeting with the heads of the school and were offered two choices. One was to forget it and go back to school as if nothing happened, the other was to make a complaint and have to leave the school. No one took the second offer.

Afterwards my Dad graduated and went on to St. Peter's College.

Abuse on every level of this horrible institution is rampant. No one knows or even wants to discover the real scope of the crimes committed.
If you give a pass to the priests and nuns who stood by while this was happening you just encourage more cover ups.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:28 PM
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8. This strikes me now as a political hit. What did Ratzinger do to upset TPTB?
John Paul never had to resign because of the pedophile priests. Why Rat-man?
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:18 PM
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9. He had direct knowledge, when it happened.
he belongs in jail.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:20 PM
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10. Oh, I totally agree, but so was Cardinal Mahoney here in LA, and he wasn't forced down
I think there may be more to this.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:34 AM
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14. I Agree
We had information right here in DU about Ratzinger's part in the cover-up, including the white paper he wrote. There's little doubt in my mind that the BFEE wanted a pope in office that they could take down anytime they wanted.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:36 AM
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15. Exactly. There is a lot we don't know.
Franky, some people here would trash ANY pope regardless of the facts.

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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:11 AM
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11. The Herald? I'm impressed.
Benedict has obviously pissed off some of the upper echelons and is running low on political capital. If he's lost the Herald, it won't be long until we see the floodgates opened.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:22 AM
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12. I would actually say " why the church has to go"..nt
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SolidGold Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:23 AM
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13. Catholicism can go with him!
It's been nothing but a stain on the planet for hundreds of years. More bloods been shed in its name than any other religion on earth.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:07 PM
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16. Thanks for posting. nt
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