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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:13 PM
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Once a month the surface of the moon is charged up to hundreds
if not thousands of volts, future expeditions to the moon will have to be aware of this phenomenon from a safety standpoint.


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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:18 PM
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1. I'll remember this the next time I go there.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:18 PM
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2. Hee! n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:20 PM
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3. I'm series, this is a HUGH finding, imagine stepping off the lunar
lander thingy and having your fillings snap crackle and pop... wouldn't be pretty in the least.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:23 PM
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6. Oh, after the first time or two you get used to it
Nowhere near as bad as that damned heat on Venus
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:21 PM
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4. That's some monthly friend. nt
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:22 PM
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5. Someone, preferrably the anti-electric crowd is supposed to say,
I call bullshit. Then I say, why not? What with all the crap flying around out in "empty space".
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:33 PM
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7. I'm waiting for some nutz to come up with a plan for a pair of nano-tube cables from the earths
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:35 PM by RC
surface to somewhere just short of the moons orbit to capture all this "free" energy for use down here. :crazy: :silly: :dunce:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:17 PM
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9. Well, There Are Ways to Transmit Energy Wirelessly
Don't know if it would be feasible, but if the energy source is great enough and able to be harnessed easily, I don't know why it wouldn't be investigated.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:59 PM
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8. Your woo-spam is getting tiresome.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:31 AM
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10. This isn't woo, it's fact. n/t
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:49 AM
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11. It's meaningless 'fact'
For instance:

In areas of fair weather, the atmospheric electric field near the earth's surface typically is about 100 volts (V) m−1 and is directed vertically in such a sense as to drive positive charges downward to the earth.

http://amsglossary.allenpress.com/glossary/search?id=at...


If there's a potential difference of about 200 V between ground level and eye level, why on earth (so to speak) should we be concerned about a difference of a few thousand volts over about 250,000 miles? When there is a huge vacuum between the earth and the moon?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:44 PM
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18. The difference is that the moon is being charged by the earth and
that is something to write home about.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:12 AM
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12. It's fact that is completely irrelevent in context with the woo you spew.
This does not in any way contradict the Standard Model.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:42 PM
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16. WTF are you talking about standard models?? I'm only suggesting
that the surface of the moon gets charged by the earth to several hundred possibly thousands of volts. There simply is nothing wrong with this statement.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:53 PM
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25. Yes, but so what?
The human body can easily build up a static charge of 50,000 volts. Engineers have long been aware of the need to shield electronics from static discharge as a design aspect of space exploration. There's nothing remarkable about any of this.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:59 PM
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27. If you say so... nothing to see here folks, move along, move along.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:04 PM
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30. If you're just reciting "common knowledge..."
1. Why bother reciting it.

2. What is it you want us to "see?"
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:00 PM
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28. You claimed that the moon gets charged to hundreds or thousands of volts...
but then the only link you provided was to some woo woo website.

Oh, and if you'd read your links, the moon is getting charged by the sun.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:05 PM
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31. The sun?? Incredible. Who knew?? n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:07 PM
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33. Pretty much everybody who knows how the sun works.
It's a big nuclear furnace which releases solar wind- both positive and negative particles. It's the opposite of what you'd expect if the sun was an electrode.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:33 PM
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42. The sun is mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace,
where hydrogen is built into helium
at a temperature of millions of degrees.

Yo ho! It's hot, the sun is not a place where we could live.
But here on earth there'd be no life without the light it gives.

We need its light.
We need its heat.
We need its energy.
Without the sun without a doubt there'd be no you and me.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:22 PM
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14. Prove it.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:43 PM
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17. Prove what? The OP?? It's common knowledge. n/'t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:44 PM
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19. Then it should be easy to prove.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:45 PM
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20. Surely you aleady know this and are baiting me up?? What's the sense?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:46 PM
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21. If you make the claim, you should back it up.
Why so paranoid?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:48 PM
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22. Not paranoid, just disappointed in the level of awareness concerning
such simple facts.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2008/1007-preparing_...



"The surface of the moon can become electrified from charged particles in the surrounding space environment," says Timothy Stubbs, Ph.D., a space scientist at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

This electric event happens once a month when the moon passes through the earth's magnetotail. A magnetotail is caused when the highly-charged particles of the solar wind zoom past the earth and mix with earth's magnetic field, creating a long tail that extends into the moon's orbit. "The moon is actually sitting in a sea of charged particles," Dr. Stubbs says.

Each month, the moon enters the magnetotail for six days. As it crosses inside the magnetotail, the moon's surface becomes highly charged. If astronauts walked across the charged surface, they might feel a static shock -- just like walking across a carpet and then touching a door knob. It's not a deadly shock, but a powerful zap! It's easy to know when the moon is passing through the earth's magnetotail -- just look for a full moon.

No astronaut has ever landed on a charged-up full moon to know exactly what happens, so learning more now will help astronauts in the future.




http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/0804201233...

ScienceDaily (Apr. 21, 2008) Behold the full moon. Ancient craters and frozen lava seas lie motionless under an airless sky of profound quiet. Its a serene, slow-motion world where even a human footprint may last millions of years. Nothing ever seems to happen there, right?

Wrong.

NASA-supported scientists have realized that something happens every month when the moon gets a lashing from Earths magnetic tail.

Earths magnetotail extends well beyond the orbit of the moon and, once a month, the moon orbits through it, says Tim Stubbs, a University of Maryland scientist working at the Goddard Space Flight Center. This can have consequences ranging from lunar dust storms to electrostatic discharges

"These sorts of things that affect astronauts are things that we'd like to investigate before we return to the moon," Dr. Stubbs says.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:53 PM
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24. There, see? Now was that so hard?
Shame about the woo spam in your sig.
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Therellas Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:23 AM
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13. someone explain what you mean by woo?
if its the probability that the poster believes somehow we could live in peace then i feel sick.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:24 PM
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15. Woo woo- pseudoscience, quackery, scientific illiteracy.
People who put tinfoil on their heads, spin around in circles, and chant woo woo woo.

In the OP's case, S/he believes in the "Electric Universe"- that the sun is a giant electrode, comets are a form of electricity, and the craters on the moon are caused by space lightning.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:50 PM
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23. ... you're almost right. But not quite. n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:58 PM
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26. Well, there's more to it.
There's the idea that black holes don't exist, that nebula are just big magnetic fields, and that magnetic fields require the presence of an electric current.

But it's all the same crap.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:02 PM
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29. Shhhhh....
...or we'll get stuck for the bill to run an extension cord up there.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:07 PM
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32. Will this shit ever end?
You preoccupation with this shit doesn't belong in General Discussion...take it to one of the loony woo-woo Groups, please.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:11 PM
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36. Uhhhhhhhhh no. Russia is over there, no one asked anyone to
read, edit or post in this thread. We are all adults here (hopefully) and we should be responsible for our own behavior which includes reading things that make us ill. Your mileage may vary.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:10 PM
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34. Is this another Kucinich thread?




:shrug:


Seriesly.


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:10 PM
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35. It's another moon bombing thread.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:12 PM
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37. I remember that.



:rofl:


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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:19 PM
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41. Ahhhhh, that was good times
The comparisons of dropping an empty metal can on the moon to rape were particularly funny.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:14 PM
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38. Can you explain more about what this is and why it is important?
Thanks.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:16 PM
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39. It's not important, he wants you to follow the link in his thread.
Which goes on about a loony, thoroughly debunked theory about how the universe and electricity work.

Not unlike his claims about earthquake machines.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:18 PM
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40. I want my new screen name to be "Magnetotail"
That sounds like a really perverted super hero.
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