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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:14 PM
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FBI target was end timer Christian militia - Hutaree (link inside)
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 02:19 PM by sixmile
http://www.annarbor.com/news/fbi-conducts-raids-in-wash... /

'The FBI conducted raids Saturday night in Washtenaw County and Lenawee County in an investigation involving members of Hutaree, a Christian-oriented militia group based in Lenawee County, AnnArbor.com has learned.

The nature of those raids has not been made public. FBI Special Agent Jason Pack, who is based in Washington, D.C., said he did not know how many people were taken into custody. Gina Balaya, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in Detroit, could not be reached for comment today.'

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'Several other raids took place around the same time in Ohio and Indiana, although it's unclear whether they were related. The Ohio raids took place in Sandusky and Huron, and the Indiana raid occurred in Hammond.'

Their website:

http://hutaree.com /

Colonial Christian Republic



from About Us:

'Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment. '
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:17 PM
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1. It would be good if you could cut and paste from their website
So that we don't drive a lot of traffic to them....
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:21 PM
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3. here's some ramblings (from website)
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 02:22 PM by sixmile
About Us

HUTAREE; Christian Warrior

As christians we all are a part of the Souls of the Body of Christ, the one true church of Christ. Not any specific man made building or any man controlled organization. This is the belief of the Hutaree soldier, as should the belief of all followers in Christ be.

We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. All christians must know this and prepare, just as Christ commanded. Luke 22:35-37, And He said to them, When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything? So they said, Nothing. 36, Then he said to them, But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37, For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me: And He was numbered with transgressors, For the things concerning Me have an end. This clearly states the reason for the training and preparation of the Hutaree.

Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment. The only thing on earth to save the testimony and those who follow it, are the members of the testimony, til the return of Christ in the clouds. We, the Hutaree, are prepared to defend all those who belong to Christ and save those who arent. We will still spread the word, and fight to keep it, up to the time of the great coming.

Being Hutaree is to stay the Testimony of Christ alive, and follow a motto, John15:13, Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. We are hoping that through this website we can reach out to those who have not the word of God and those who are lost in there ideas of Christ. Many of the things Christ said would happen have happened and some things are still in the works of happening.

We all must know that we all carry a cross and a soldiers cross is just as heavy as any other. Just as Jesus did we must also carry our cross to our destination our life abounds us to. All people are givin a destination by Gods will and have to continue there walk to there own golgotha. But many people, even christians dont agree with the things we do but all we have to say is, we will not argue over the Bible, read it for what it is. We believe only what the Bible says and not on only philosophy, as many christians of this day do. Christ is our king of kings and top general of all things, for we are not of this world but we live in it.

The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it. We will reach out to those who are yet blind in the last days of the kingdoms of men and bring them to life in Christ. Daniel 11:32-35, Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. 33, And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. 34, Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join them by intrigue. 35 And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed time.

You can find the news we find in some of the places we have in the information sources section. Also you can get gear from some of the choice places we have on gear links. Thanks for coming to Hutaree.com and please come again. Oh and dont forget that you can write us through the contact us link on the Hutaree homepage. Once again thanks for visiting Hutaree.com and may Christ bless you widely.

THE HUTAREE RANK SYSTEM


RANKS:
RADOK

BORAMANDER

ZULIF

ARKON

GOLD RIFLEMAN

SILVER RIFLEMAN

BRONZE RIFLEMAN


LUKORE

MASTER GUNNER

SENIOR GUNNER

GUNNER

PARABLES OF THE SOLDIER Ranking officers and commanders; serve your men for you lead them; humble before your team. Cause you may be a leader of flesh but in heaven leaders are of spirit.

LOW RANKING SOLDIERS AND GRUNTS Respect the officer above you and obey your commander with dignity. Each man holds his place in flesh and spirit, heaven and earth.

YOUR PLACE A servant is not above his master and a master not above his lord. All masters have had a master before an apprentice.


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:25 PM
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5. Wow. I don't think these folks' elevator goes to the top floor.
Jesus wanted people to "stay alive using equipment" ? What equipment, exactly? Respirators? Dialysis machines? Toaster ovens?

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:27 PM
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7. Military grade equipment, bombs
the Christian Identity side of the militia movement makes the white identity folks look almost rational.

These guys are all for a religious crusade to purify the country... from all those who do not believe in Christ and his way of war. Sadly I am not shitting you.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:30 PM
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9. They do seem like a fierce bunch, not to say foaming-at-the-mouth.
If Jesus were around today I think he'd find the nearest cave and hide in it until these Christian Militia folks were corralled.

Can't say as I'd blame him, either.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. It's the Christian Taliban
The extremists on ALL sides are dangerous, especially when armed.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. I've read the Bible before, but I seem to have missed that part
The whole Jesus call to arms, moral superiority through massive firepower thing. Is it in there? :shrug:


/me turns the other cheek
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:38 PM
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15. Yes but not in the New testament
this is why these guys are so damn not funny. While they hate Jews for killing Christ, they have adopted the worst parts of the Old Testament, see Book Of Joshua, as their guide to purify the land.

For those needing a reminder, if we are to believe Joshua... what he did was genocide pure and simple.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. No, the bible says thou shall not murder
but says its okay to murder your kids of they're disrespectful. Go figure. :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Let's go for the full version of that little though shall not murder
fellow believers.

Let that sink in ok.

(Yes that is what that commandment says in places like the Bible issued to the Swiss Guard)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:04 PM
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25. lol.
Nice.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
48. You know....their "equipment"
I'm sorry...I can't quit giggling long enough to continue......




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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:29 PM
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8. thanks...
The Southern Poverty Law Center includes them as an "anti-government" militia group, but does not seem to single them out as a "hate" group nor include anything further, in terms of violent activity risk.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:39 PM
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16. And except for the Muslim/Christian difference
How is this not Bin Laden in English?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:43 PM
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20. There is a reason why the Feds have been worried
bout some of these guys actually working with the Bin Ladin's of the world...
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #3
28. Ok, is it me, or does it look like some of those ranks would
be at home in a B-rated sci-fi flick?
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:34 PM
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37. what the fuck is a ZULIF?
It doesn't google well. ARKON has some etymology. (Archon (Gr. ἄρχων, pl. ἄρχοντες ;) is a Greek word that means "ruler" or "lord", frequently used as the title of a specific public office. ) However Arkon is a Marvel comic book character.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:21 PM
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2. Whenever I see a cross together with militants I think NAZI
or Ku Klux Klan.

While I believe in the 2nd amendment, freedom of speech, and the dangers of prior restraint, the chemistry that mixes narcissism, testosterone, guns and religion really must be licensed and closely monitored.
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:24 PM
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4. The Doctrine of the Hutaree (from website)
DOCTRINE OF THE HUTAREE

The Doctrine of the Hutaree is based on faith and most of all the testimony of Jesus. Hebrews 11:1, Faith is the substance of things hoped for, The Evidence of things not yet seen.

Jesus spoke of the ten virgins in Matthew 25: 1-12. The wise ones took enough oil to last the whole night, just in case the bridegroom was late. The foolish ones took not enough oil to last the whole night and figured that the bridegroom would arrive earlier than he did.

These bridegrooms represent the Christian church of today. The oil, just as Jesus explained, represented faith. If you read the story right, you find out that the people with enough faith to last as long as it might take are the wise ones. They know and believe in the testimony of Christ, even through the darkest and most doubtful of times. This day is soon.

The foolish ones are the ones who expect Christ to arrive too soon. They have brought for themselves only enough oil to last for a short time, having not enough faith to last through the darkest hours. When the time comes for those without enough faith, they will fall to the Anti-Christs doctrine. And it will make perfect sense to the whole world; even the elect.

We all as Christians should stand firm in Christ and believe in him until our uttermost end. The testimony must by no means pass away and we must spread the word believing in Christs words, even during the end times.

Now when that hour Christ arrives the foolish ones would have already left their waiting mark, their place in Christ. Then when he comes over, trumpets blowing, and clouds flowing, the wise ones will come to him in the clouds and into heaven. The foolish will then remember what they were supposed to do and cry out loud to God and knock on heavens door. But read and youll find that it says that when the door is shut no one enters afterwards. They will knock and he will say, Away with you, for I know you not.

I Peter 5:11, And this is the Testimony, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

Believe in this word and spread it to all you can. Stand, stay and pray for the defense of the word. For we live by faith and cannot see nor understand what we believe, entirely, but nevertheless the reward is worth it in the end.

ETERNAL LIFE IS IN JESUS, AMEN.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:55 PM
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39. But if you have "true faith", shouldn't you be able to wait in the darkness?
And did you see that crap upthread about selling your cloak to buy a sword? I don't recall that "sell all you have and give to the poor" meant that you would be giving it to the poor via a gladius. :crazy:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:25 PM
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6. They're on that youtubes thing:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. I was looking up stuff about militias late last week & ended up seeing stuff on Youtube
that was unsettling.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:30 PM
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10. They're on MySpace, references in January to orange/red alerts and detained members:
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 02:57 PM by beam me up scottie
http://www.myspace.com/hutaree/stream/7

Hutaree Michigan Hutaree is going down to level ORANGE,,keep all eyes and ears open, stay safe and GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted at 8:14 PM Jan 17
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Hutaree Michigan FEDS having local PD detained man in Kentucky after tryng to detain Hutaree commander RD Merzonik

Posted at 5:14 PM Jan 17
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Posted at 5:21 PM Jan 17
changing location until we figure out whats going on.
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Hutaree Michigan HUTAREE on RED ALERT members contact HQ

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Country Boy- #209 Posted at 5:11 PM Jan 17
I see. thats not good

Hutaree Posted at 5:10 PM Jan 17
FEDS having local PD detained man in Kentucky after tryng to detain Hutaree commander RD Merzonik

Country Boy- #209 Posted at 4:38 PM Jan 17
whats going on? any info will be appreciated


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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:55 PM
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33. RD Merzonik's myspace:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. They seem have an aversion to reading:
Books:
Read,,ain't that why they make everything into a movie.


Books:
Don't like to read did that in school to much


Explains a lot...


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:32 PM
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12. Oooo, they have official patches even! Actually, this stuff gives me the creeps
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. They probably got the patches just like I got my kit from the Barbie Fan Club, in the mail
for a dollar.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. Para-military Barbie!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. LOL
:rofl:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #23
42. LMAO!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:41 PM
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Equipment'n'stuff... These people are dangerous morans. nt
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:53 PM
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45. They must have taken pipe bombs off the list already
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:41 PM
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18. When 'ingorance personifide' starts an Army, this is what it looks like.
This is the birth of a theocratic fascist army. These idiots would be very comfortable killing people during the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:42 PM
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19. They have a crosshar inside the cross... fucking morans. nt
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 02:49 PM
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24. they always have to kill the heathens if they can't save em
jeeezzzuzzzzonahulahoop,the loonies are locked and loaded everywhere.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:07 PM
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27. The have an Evil Jew Forum:
Forums:

Evil Jew Forum

Talk about being an evil Jew and how we are taking over the world in our own private forum where no one else can see. Shalomi or something.


http://www.hutaree.com/forum/index.php

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
29. So, which RW "pundit" will claim that obama targeted a Christian
group, thereby proving he's a Muslim?

I'm taking bets.....
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. This won't help their demented delusions, if there's any truth to the report
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 03:44 PM by chill_wind
Detroit News link: Michigan Militia suggests Hutaree arrests linked to "threats against Islamic orgs"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:33 PM
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30. Any estimates on how many of them nation wide? I know that a single
person can do a lot of damage but I am wondering if there is going to be retaliation for the raids?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:27 PM
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35. Here you go
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 04:31 PM by blogslut
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:54 PM
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46. Enough to make some real trouble if they choose.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:45 PM
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32. wtf is crc or ccr????????????
what the hell is II overlaid on a cross??????????????????
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #32
47. CCR = Colonial Christian Republic
we are a republic, after all, not a democracy.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:29 PM
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36. From End Timers to Do Timers.
Who Would Jesus Bomb?
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:52 PM
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38. It irks me that these fundies can't even read correctly...
This idiots disposit that every word of scripture is inerrent, inviolable God's truth,
and then they dick it around..

The quotation from Luke 22: 35...etc- They screw that up too...
it actually says: vs. 37: "For I tell you, this scripture must be fulfilled in me,
'and he was counted against the lawless,' {which is a reference to the
suffering servant image in Isaiah, who was a pacificst!}, and (vs. 38)
they said, "Lord, here are two swords," He replied, "It is enough."
Funny... their version says something completely different.

Jesus didn't say: Get lots of weapons and stockpile them!
So, if you're fundy,don't dick around with your so-called 'truth.'
Some of us liberals know the Bible better than you do, you fools!

AND, back to the scripture.. a few verses later, when the authorities show
up in the garden to arrest Jesus (on a trumped up charge), one of his angry
disciples cuts off the ear of the high priest's slave (no comment from me)..
does Jesus encourage them to violence?
He says: "No more of this!" Do they understand what this means? No more!

So... either you're using the Bible selectively to promote your racist,
violent agenda, or else you're stupid.
either way, you're just dickheads.

Just what we need to 'save' our nation...


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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:55 PM
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40. This is good news. Who knows what these radical Christian terrorists were plotting? n/t
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:08 PM
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41. Hideously Ugly Toothless Aryans Requiring End-time Enemas
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 05:08 PM by PassingFair
..couldn't find out what HUTAREE means, but
came across that definition.

:rofl:
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:48 PM
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43. Any evidence the raids extend beyond Hutaree?
I'm a bit concerned that people will jump to conclusions about the scope of these raids.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:50 PM
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44. Jesus did no such thing..you stupid hypocritical
morons.

Jesus was a man of Peace.
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