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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:43 PM
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Of Becks and Men
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 10:44 PM by NanceGreggs
Only a handful of TV personalities have garnered the kind of attention that Glenn Beck now commands. He is at once vilified and canonized, dismissed out-of-hand and praised as the real deal, debunked or deified, one’s view of him dependent on one’s ability to think for themselves – or, in the alternative, to have him do the thinking for them.

Beck is many things to many people. But if there’s one thing he’s not, it’s stupid. In fact, he is one of the more intelligent hucksters to come along in a great while, and he has his audience – and his detractors alike – to prove the point.

In the World According to Fox, a place where no publicity is bad publicity, Beck is a man amongst men – deceitful, lying, abhorrent men to be sure. But that is of no consequence in the environment in which Beck (and those of his ilk, though of lesser notoriety) flourishes.

Armed with nothing more than a piece of working-class chalk and a seen-better-days blackboard, Beck wisely eschews the use of technology-driven devices that might tend to distance his unsophisticated viewers – those who believe the internetz is a series of tubes spawned by the devil himself, and would rather put their faith in a medium they can comprehend.

The self-proclaimed “rodeo clown” then dazzles his audience by scribbling a name – like “Obama”, as an example – surrounded by arrows pointing to words like “socialist”, fully cognizant of the fact that his average listener needs no further proof of the undeniable connection between one and the other.

As I said, Beck is not stupid – in fact, he is a flim-flam man of the highest order, savvy enough to know the intellectual limitations of his audience, and unethical enough to exploit their fears, their bigotry, and their ignorance in his pursuit of ratings – and, in the doing, his own personal gain.

Beck’s Oscar-worthy performances as the driven-to-tears patriot, the oh-God-I-fear-for-my-country Christian, the here’s-what-they-don’t-want-you-to know truth-teller are as sincere as those previously offered by snake-oil salesmen who erected tents in small towns and pilfered the pockets of the clueless – the only difference being that Beck has national airtime to spew his brand of worthless cure-alls. But the buyers of his products are the same ill-informed, scared-shitless citizens who are mad as hell and desirous of a scapegoat – someone, anyone – on whom to blame their every misfortune, real or imagined.

Does Glenn Beck actually believe the BS he spews? That’s doubtful. But he understands exactly how much BS his audience will swallow whole, and has amply displayed his ability to stretch the corners of the envelope when it comes to the limits one can go to – limits which, thanks to Fox-News, are so far without limit – in garnering a following that craves being told they are merely the victims of an out-of-control government in league with the forces of evil.

Beck, like so many before him, delivers what he knows his audience wants to hear. Their financial woes are caused not by a Republican administration that plunged their country into unfathomable debt, nor the war-profiteers who stood to make a fortune through armed conflict, nor the actions of “conservatives” who have traditionally stood for fiscal responsibility – despite the fact that they never practice it.

Instead Beck insinuates that it is the Welfare Queens who have stolen the money of hard-working taxpayers, the adherents of Islam who have caused global unrest, the Liberals and the Progressives who, by virtue of being educated and informed (i.e. “elitists") have wreaked havoc in the lives of average citizens who they perceive as being beneath them intellectually.

He is, for all intents and purposes, a Master at the game. He plays it well, and he has the money and the ratings to prove it.

However, there is more to be said about Beck’s well-honed skill, and it is this: The man knows what he’s doing, and it doesn’t bother him a whit.

He knows he is fomenting discord among his fellow Americans based on lies and innuendo. He knows he is inciting otherwise peaceful citizens to become violent and take up arms against their fellow citizens. He knows that his rhetoric leads his hapless fans to believe they are under attack and have no recourse but to fight for the way of life they are being led to believe is under siege – and must be met with all means available in order to preserve what little the “conservative agenda” has left them.

I repeat: Glenn Beck is NOT stupid. He knows the consequences of his actions – he just doesn’t give a fuck, one way or the other. He’s got his – a network that will support him despite the fact that his former sponsors won’t, and a paycheck that says Keep Up The Good Work and let the wellbeing of the country be damned.

Beck’s latest tirade, however, may have crossed that line that only the most foolhardy politicos have mistakenly deemed ripe for trespass: he has admonished his hapless viewers to abandon Christian churches that support “social justice” – the very core of Christ’s teachings.

Being a woman of a certain age, I remember well when the world-wide press eruputed in collective outrage when John Lennon opined that the Beatles were “more popular than Jesus Christ”. I will wait patiently for the backlash to Beck’s contention that he is more influential among Christians, and what they should be swayed by, than the Nazarene himself.

It will be telling.

Silence from individual Christians, as well as the powers-that-be in Christian churches, can only be perceived as acquiescence to Beck’s assertion that his influence is more powerful than that of Jesus himself.

And a backlash from those same Christians, those who believe in the teachings of Christ rather than the blatherings of Glenn Beck, will be his undoing.

FOX-News huckster OR the Prince of Peace – it’s time to pick a side.

I merely report – you decide.




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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:46 PM
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1. Spot-On, Ma'am! Beautiful....
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 10:47 PM by The Magistrate
A pleasure to give this its first recommendation!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:58 PM
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57. Good to have to back, Sir.
Hope you're feeling as good as new. :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:47 PM
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2. My dear Nance...
You have provided more than enough proof for me.....

I'm not stupid either, lol!

Well done...

K&R, of course.


:patriot:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:56 PM
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3. In the immortal words of Leo Goetz....
"But... but you're beck!"

:P
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:59 PM
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4. Excellent!... now you've made Glenn Beck cry.
:cry::D

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:52 PM
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63. Great pic, Swampy...
only thing missing is his "blackboard of crazy" (as Olberman calls it)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:03 PM
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5. In ADDITION...teh man is EVIL as they come.....he would be banned from my world...
He is a POISON
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:05 PM
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6. Beck is proof
that intelligence and insanity are not mutually exclusive. It is disturbing that there are so many who hasten to wallow in his verbal vomit.

You offer a valid challenge, one I will now send out to everyone on my list. Thank you!



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ericinne Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:14 PM
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7. Satan
Satan is getting the Christians to not believe anymore. That Satan, he is quite the sneaky one. He wants you to believe in HIS gospel.. It was only a matter of time before Satan started denouncing Christianity, and have the "believers" sulk up his every word.

If ever there was a job description for what an anti-Christ on earth may be doing if he did truly exist, it would be an "opinion host" of a Faux News show at 5 o'clock every Monday through Friday, 4 o'clock central time.

The clues are already there.

P.S. I'm a deist.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:15 PM
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8. Excellent point! Beck might well have unleashed his own antidote! A disturbing
fact is he is smart, as you say, and does know his audience, and has the charm of Hitler IMO to sway the opinions of his flock into commanded hatred, and that is dangerous and irresponsible, as he is tapping into unleashing violent fanaticism that will take on a life of its own.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:21 PM
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11. Unleashed his own antidote! Either that, OR...
... the most verbal, obnoxious, frothing, far-righters among his listeners will actually decide that Jesus' teachings on social justice must have been misinterpreted and twisted by activist Christians all these years, and that we really don't need to take care of the poor, the hungry, the destitute, the sick, the outcasts... Hey, at this point, many of them are already far more enthusiastic about hitting people over the head with Jesus than actually FOLLOWING Him. You know: when the whole "love thy neighbor" thing gets too burdensome for these folks, it's easy to ditch the rest.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:21 AM
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29. Quite true, in fact, IMO, they are now writing their own bible and religious teachings, and
most of them are completely antithetical to the teachings of Jesus as I knew them. As you said "You know: when the whole 'love thy neighbor' thing gets too burdensome for these folks, it's easy to ditch the rest."

These people IMO hide under the cloak of religion to justify their psychotic hatred of practically anything that has an element of kindness, intelligence and rationale. Frankly, they are the "devil in disguise."

I wish out corporate media would do a better job of disclosing what they are than kowtowing to them because they encapsulate themselves under the umbrella of being religious. Their brand of religion is pure evilness personified as somehow being godly in their distorted, delusional, dysfunctional and twisted minds.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:17 PM
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48. Not just your opinion
That they are writing their own Bible is a verifiable fact. In fact, you can verify it with a single mouse click on the link below:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:52 PM
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75. fortunately
I feel no obligation to accept any translation or version of their mythology and I have my own antidote to that brand of speciousness.
http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
makes as much sense to me as anything the death cultists have devised, and it's more fun to boot.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:20 PM
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62. They don't NEED to be "frothing" listeners"
There are some Christians already who THINK that Jesus wasn't about social justice. Jesus was about "neighbors helping neighbors." Jesus "didn't think the government should get involved." No joke.
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:45 PM
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74. you forget
The true believer followers of Glennda the Beckerhead are not Christians regardless of how much they might claim to be. They are actually christianists using the imprimatur of church and religion in general to disguise a strong dominionist, authoritarian current that would as wannabe presidential candidate Hucksterbee
once advocated revise the constitution to bring it into agreement with god's laws.They'll deny it loud and long but scratch any one of them and you'll find a theocrat as dedicated as any ayatollah.what's worse is that generally if you scratch their code of ethics you'll find a profit and loss statement or a balance sheet.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:16 PM
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9. Beck is a false prophet --Jesus was a socialist.
and I really really really really hope there's a hell.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:31 AM
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30. Same here!!! These are the people we were warned of... many Americans still
seem asleep at the wheel of the evilness among us and growing... and sponsored by Fox News, Beck and the like.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:17 PM
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10. I'll give Beck credit
he is challenging Rush Limbaugh for the top spot on my "most dangerous men to America" list. Speaking of that who do you all think is a bigger player in Conservative media? I know Rush used to be the unchallenged king but I think Beck may be challenging him for that title. I really cant decided so i'd love to hear your all's opinions.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:22 PM
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12. I've known that Beck was mentally ill for some time
but reading this, I'm realizing that he more likely has sociopathy rather than bipolar. He is more aware than I've given him credit for.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:26 PM
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13. "the driven-to-tears patriot,
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 11:31 PM by miscsoc
the driven-to-tears patriot, the oh-God-I-fear-for-my-country Christian, the here’s-what-they-don’t-want-you-to know truth-teller"

That's a good bit of polemical description, there.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:31 PM
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14. Why surprised?
He, like so many out there (Hannity, Rush, Malkin, Levine etc) are trying to make money. They are whores and making a great living on it.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:53 PM
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16. Never said I was surprised ...
Just commenting on someone who knows enough to tell me to pucker-up before he speaks - because he likes to kiss while he's fucking.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:35 PM
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15. Superb
Rec
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:58 PM
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17. I know which side I'm on, Nance.
And it's NOT Beck's side!

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voc Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:10 AM
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18. Superb is the word
to describe your essay on Beck! Enjoy your posts.He is anything but stupid.
He is without a soul.
ty
kick
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:21 AM
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19. He really only has to be slightly smarter than his audience
Which means he merely has to have an IQ higher than the average bag of hammers.

I've spent far more time than is healthy trying to figure out how intelligent he may or may not be. I personally think he's a moron, but he's clearly just smart enough to bamboozle his flock which granted, doesn't make him an Einstein by anybody's yardstick. Like Palin, he knows how to manipulate his following and tell them what they want to hear and that's really all they need to do.
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trungpa ricochet Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:32 AM
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20. Here's more evidence, as if it were necessary....
....demonstrating the height of this guy's demagoguery. He is definitely a sociopath among sociopaths.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4I2f0ZO6g&feature=PlayList&p=C744127FA7CC5176&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
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moonbatmax Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:46 AM
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21. Friedrich von Schiller said it best:
Against stupidity

the gods themselves

contend in vain.

:shrug:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:06 AM
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22. So many words wasted on a someone
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 04:06 AM by cornermouse
who, other than his hints of violence, has no real power to change anything or make a difference. Unrec due to no real underlying value to the rant.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:29 AM
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37. I suppose Thomas Paine or Ben Franklin had no Power to change anything either.
:shrug: The Pen/Speech is still more powerful than the gun/sword..
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:49 AM
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42. He does help galvanize the hatred
Without him, they may not have been seized with enough desire to go march in Wash.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:51 PM
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49. I'll rec just to undo this unrec. clearly this post does not understand
what a rant is let alone the value of it.

Once again, Nance......a winner.

Glad to see you back!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:01 PM
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58. ROFLMAO at you. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:13 AM
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23. Nice to log on of an early spring evening and come across a
post by Nance.

Actually 'nice' doesn't cover it. This is yet one more gemstone with brass knuckles.

Agree on points as well, especially on Beck's knowing that his deliberate words instigate division and may spark violence, and he says them anyway.

- - -

A bit off-topic, but I always felt 'Nazarene' sounded like a good name for a cookie.


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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:22 AM
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24. Kick
Kick
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Blix Krieg Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:28 AM
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25. Beck = Putrefaction
Nuff said.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:33 AM
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26. His willful manipulation of his flock is dangerous. I believe he thinks
he can control the mob he creates but as with many demagogues who came before him, I believe he will be destroyed by those who depend on his every word for what they believe is an enlightenment...
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lefty2000 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:31 PM
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77. I Looked Up Demagogue
The dictionary did not have a picture of Glenn Beck, but it should.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:48 AM
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27. Personally, I think he is dangerous
Like Bill O'Reilly He will get someone killed. But, hey its Free Speech. He's not the one who picked up the gun and shot someone. He's not the one who fired the first shot, which ended up in
several hundred dead and wounded in America's next tragedy. He's just some guy who is trying to bring revenue to Fox News, more advertisers, after all its all about money.

Maybe we do need a Hate Speech bill. Maybe we need the FCC to enforce it. Maybe people need to take responsibility for the words they use over the public air waves.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. Precisely and well said! "...people need to take responsibility for the words they use over the
public air waves."
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:08 AM
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28. Dangerous, He Is Not ... Something To Fear? No
.

Just ast him. Mr Beck is (like Trash Limbaughski) a snake oil sailsman. He says what he is paid to say. He plays to his audience. Those, as you say who listen to him devotedly are small in number; loud most certainly, but small in number. The world view of the ilk of Mr Beck (and others) as seen on TV is not true.

Nothing to fear from the following nor the reactionary mouth-peaces of RW hate radio/Fix Noise. In the end, there is nothing to hold the hate groups together as a group. They will not accomplish anything except disruption. Beyond lies, these hucksters offer nothing positive.

Louis Farrakhan (born Louis Eugene Walcott) of the Nation of Islam holds sway over a more dedicated group of followers. Nothing to fear there either.

USA is land of people who do believe in the ballot box over the bullet/bomb. The prospects of protest against the people's government of USA by the people of USA is non-existent. It appears most people support their open, free, and elected government.

(FYI - I love your writings. Your skills and talents are inspiring. Thank you.)

Ema Nymton
~@:o?
.
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Political Bitch Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:01 AM
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68. I think you need to rethink
Those 'mouthpieces' are inciting people to violence. Stupid people who believe stupid shit will do horrible things to protect their worldview. They DO NOT CARE that Beck is only saying what he is paid to say.
Look to history and allow it to be your guide. Hitler was a mouthpiece, too. At least in the beginning.
You are incorrect in saying that there is 'nothing' to hold those hate groups together. Hate can be a very strong glue, and woe to those of us who do not pay attention to these 'followers'. Woe to all of us, who seek light and truth and justice. These 'followers' are anathema to those things. Don't ever doubt it. And the saying about a small group of dedicated people changing the world? Yeah, works for the bad shit, too.


:scared:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:08 AM
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32. He's a train wreck isn't he?
I agree he just doesn't care about the fallout except that it is big fallout. It's more about the power he has to cause mayhem and a huge dose of needing approval from his wingnut fans... we shall see as this plays out. I think he only has a minute or two of his fifteen remaining.

Here's a link to what some Christian orgs are saying about his social justice tirade: http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/12/beck-donohue-catholic/
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LittleGirl Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:21 AM
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33. acting talent
that's all I think of Beck. Excellent actor. Like in "he's reading a script". I don't think he actually believes any of that garbage. He's just doing what he's paid to do.

I don't think he is intelligent. I think he's a money whore. That's all. He's getting rich.

He's in the news everywhere and even Jon Stewart spent 15 minutes of his show last Thursday imitating him. What a form of flattery that must have been for Beck. I would imagine that he is laughing all of the way to the bank. That he goes home and says to his wife, look Love, they are imitating me now! hee hee.

I believe he spews poison in America. I believe anybody that watches him will become infected with that sting even as they ridicule him. Stop watching. Stop listening. Turn him off. Why is anyone giving that man any notice? STOP IT.
Please.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:47 AM
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34. In some perverse way
he reminds me of the Divine character in John Waters' movies, especially one Babs Johnson in the Waters classic, "Pink Flamingos." To get the real Beck essence Pink Flamingos must be seen in its entirety.
And now for something completely different: Does Rupert Murdoch claim contributions in kind for all his work on behalf of the Republican Party? How much does the GOP send to Murdoch's secret off shore tax havens?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:49 AM
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35. k&r....
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:06 AM
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36. Most excellent piece, but I think that Beck is indeed stupid...
My reasoning, I think he actually believes the crap he tosses out.

If he has any "smarts", it's that he follows his corporate nose and hones in on the cash.

I've seen quite a few "mainstream" Christians call Beck out for his insanity, but there will always be the loons that think he actually has some validity...
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:54 AM
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38. Like the Bushco's boy king, just another court jester...
with a megaphone.

Human excrement, a walking booger we should flick away in the same dismissive fashion he has displayed for the very concepts of credibility or common sense. The illusion of his success is based in his willingness and ability to shun the well being of the world in favor of himself. Your witty way with words shouldn't be dirtied having to speak to the likes of this...being.

Happy to kick, as it was well said, steadfast and true, the hecklin' Beckster is void of any attempt at an emotional rescue.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:29 AM
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39. K & R
He isn't stupid and neither are Rush or any of the others. People being stupid enough to be led around the nose by these jerks is a sad thing for the US.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:41 AM
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40. Beck is where he is because Murdock eats the loss of erstwhile advertisers
He's like Bush. He does the bidding of the Have Mores specifically because he does what he's told.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:45 AM
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70. Beck Baiting: Late Nite Sport
So here's how you play....

Keep the sound down and turn on Beck's show on Fox. 

Watch the commercials and then call their 800 numbers 

Tell them you will NEVER buy their fine product because they
advertise for the show of this racist, fascist crazy guy.

Use all your theater skills and just blast the poor answering
service people.  

Most of them just freak out and hang up.

Some of them will argue with you.

See how long you can get them to waste their time arguing and
cause disruption in their business 

Fuck Rupert Murdock and 

Fuck Glen Beck 
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:42 AM
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41. I knew recrucifying Christ would be his doom. I just hope it happens during campaigns.
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:20 PM
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43. Beck is on a mission of obsfucation; to confuse his masses on words that speak truth
"Socialist", "Progressive", "Social Justice", "Community" ... he associates these with something bad.

"Fascist", "Nazi", "Racist" ... he redirects these away from where they squarely belong: on him.

"Patriot", "Tea Party", "Rights", "Free Speech" ... in his mouth and the mouth of any teabagger these words become twisted and practically meaningless.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:23 PM
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44. I think this is among your very best essays!
no, I know it is!!

Do you mind if I post it to facebook?

It's important -- I'd really like to see it get a larger audience.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:48 PM
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45. Thanks, BlancheS ...
... and please feel free to post this elsewhere.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:42 AM
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71. thank YOU!!!! Here's the intro I added:
Fox"News" Huckster or the Prince of Peace?

Know the difference between teachings of compassion and hate filled rhetoric. Blame the devil for the things you do, or realize it's up to us, each individual and our actions.

Whether you consider your decisions god-inspired or you, making the effort to tap your inner wisdom, it's time to identify false prophets and understand the phrase, "by their fruits shall you know them".

I was moved to post this razor-sharp essay:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 12:57 PM
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46. I love you, NanceGreggs. Just LOVE YOU!!!!
K&R
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:04 PM
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47. Thanks to you and Jon Stewart, Nance..
for exposing the idiocy of one glen beck.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:17 PM
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50. Bush hyped social justice in the speech shown in "Capitalism"
I just watched the movie today & nearly cried from laughing while Chimpy used the phrase as justification for some stupid policy or other.

Truly you speak: what will the fundamentalists do when they have to choose between Born-again Bush & Beck the moron, I mean Mormon?

I prefer the word "cunning" to "intelligent", but I understand what you mean & will enjoy the imminent meltdown.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:23 PM
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51. Did you catch Jon Stewart's epic ownage of Beck last Thursday?
That was fucking genius. If you didn't you can watch the whole episode here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-march-18-2010-gary-locke

South Park also had a great take on Glenn Beck, and you can watch that here:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251890
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 04:23 PM
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52. Take my hand and follow me for a minute...
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 04:23 PM by badgerpup
Normally I don't watch Glenn Beck and his ilk. There's enough negativity (read: people who are willfully ignorant, self-absorbed self-righteous etc.,) in my life at the moment and I do NOT choose to go willingly adding to it. :banghead:

I do get quite the laugh out of Jon Stewart however...:applause:
Seeing his impersonation of Glenn Beck; his increasingly preposterous and fantastic (as in 'not grounded in reality, a fantasy') examples of associative 'thinking' demonstrated on his trusty blackboard reminded me of...
Are you ready for this?
:wtf:
The hidden messages that only the hero John Nash could find and deciper in A Beautiful Mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)

The hidden messages for The Destruction Of AmericaTM are out there...
he KNOWS it, and only he can break the code and find them and expose them and Save America.
Hmmm...not sure if I'm talking about John Nash or Glenn Beck here*...:freak:

He spins around and around...searching feverishly for patterns and meaning to appear in the strips of text hanging from the walls and ceiling...and they do.

Everything makes perfect sense and leads to the next step within the context of his own reality...but from the outside, those who play such a central role in Beck's reality are strawmen in elaborate costumes and masks, or a child's nightmare or a badly-drawn caricature.
The inner reality and outer reality seem to make contact with each other only lightly and rarely.

* John Nash was a brilliant mathematician who suffered from schizophrenia.
Glenn Beck is...well...not...but I would not be surprised if there was not some personality disorders going on there as well as some organic issues, what with his history...


Edit to add :patriot::yourock: Nance!

:kick:
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HappyCynic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 05:13 PM
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53. K & R
Fantastic as always. I can't believe I almost missed this. Glad I caught it in time to K & R!
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:20 PM
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54. Of course, that is all true. K&R nt
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:55 PM
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55. hmmmm...
isn't his whole schtick about "social justice" as he defines it? He's definitely treading on thin ice.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 06:58 PM
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56. Yuppers ...
And when he falls through that thin ice he's treading on, I'll actually tune-in to watch him cry like a baby for a few hours or so ...
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:44 PM
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64. But how will you know if those tears are real? n/t
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Optimistic Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:27 PM
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59. Here is a Article from a Friend of mine.
I am sure he has contributed to many forums here.

http://timvalentine.wordpress.com/2010/03/20/a-perversion-of-the-gospel/
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undergroundnomore Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 07:59 PM
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60. easy choice there
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 08:03 PM by undergroundnomore
I am a Christian. I'm not trying to convert anyone here but I really get angry at people who use religion to try to mask their own agenda. Beck's minions may want to reread their Bible:

1 John 4:1 ESV
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.


1 Peter 5:8 ESV
Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

and

1 Timothy 6:3-5 ESV
If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain

Sorry. I hope you don't mind me using these verses that Beck's fans may want to revisit, ESPECIALLY the last one.



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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:02 PM
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61. No need for an apology ...
I welcome the addition.

:hi:
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:47 PM
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65. I take Glenn Beck seriously
Not seriously as in the man speaks the truth ... but seriously in that he incites hatred in scared, desperate people in need of a scapegoat.

People who watch or listen to Glenn Beck don't KNOW what socialism is or Nazism is or communism. They know there's a black guy in the White House, and their lives aren't so good. They buy into government being bad (all goes to corrupt minorities so they can live well while the white guy suffers), unions being bad (don't get that the unions helped get living wages and benefits), and educated people being bad (all elitists who don't have common sense).

They are vulnerable to stupid and angry. Not a good combination. The n-word was screamed at the Capitol yesterday ... it's ugly out there, and a group of loud, lying white guys (led by Glenn Beck) are feeding the ugly and making millions while doing it.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:52 PM
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66. Disagreeing
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 10:55 PM by LatteLibertine
with the President is fine. Constantly calling him a radical and a Socialist that is destroying the very fabric of the nation is dangerous. Beck is declaring daily that President Obama is a radical who is ending the United States of America. Like Rush, I'm sure Beck has some fans who dislike President Obama merely because of his race too. It grates on them that a black man is the President. Now if you add in a he's a black man with a Liberal lean, that really gets to them. Keep in mind you're probably talking about folks who would never work for a black supervisor. Now they're dealing with a black President.

Frequently, racists are also sexists and homophobes too. So I doubt these people like see gay folks gaining ground in some areas, or Hillary Clinton as SoS.

While Beck is a buffon, I don't take his impact or the beckerheads who follow him, lightly.
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Political Bitch Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:46 AM
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67. It is amazing to me
that there are SO MANY idiots in our nation! And if I feel 'intellectually superior' to some of these morons, it is simply because I have taken the time to educate myself. These fucks don't even bother. They want Big Daddy W or Big Daddy Beck or Big Daddy Whoever to tell them what they should think, and never mind a damn thing about the 'why' of it. Quite frankly, I'm so sick to death of it that I might just regurgitate my dinner all over them.
I have been without internet or any kind of real news for over a year (you just can't count the national and local news). Believe me, since I've gotten back online, I'm looking into moving to Canada! My country has gone completely insane! I remember (being of a 'certain age' myself) when this nation was THE PLACE TO BE! IF you weren't coming to America or living here already, then dammit, you'd better get on it. Now, we're the laughingstock of the whole world. Is it me, or is the other side just completely unable to see what's going on?

Oh wait, Jeebus didn't tell them to seek truth...Jeebus told them to kowtow to the likes of Glenn Beck.

Pardon me while I puke. :puke:
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:33 AM
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69. Education. Education. Education.
Thats what my Mom said and she was so right.

Studies prove that the less educated you are, the more likely
you will accept a one sided argument. Educated people need to
hear both sides.

Betcha Beck is aware of that study too.   
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 09:43 AM
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72. I wonder if Beck is being groomed to be the next Limbaugh?? n/t
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:09 AM
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73. And you merely report so very well.
However, I would have to add the caveat that although he may not be stupid, he also is not completely sane.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:06 PM
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76. I don't believe in any of the cable news people.
They're just talking heads collecting a paycheck.

I'd be shocked if any of them were "true believers".
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