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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:43 AM
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Where did McCain's integrity go?
From one of his constituents~oops, busted!

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2010/03/01/20100301monlets014.html


Where did McCain's integrity go?

Mar. 1, 2010 12:00 AM


To read that Sen. John McCain is now denying that he knew the intended use of the TARP money is sad.

We all so admired McCain's integrity all these years, even Democrats like myself.

The TARP money vote is nothing to be ashamed of. President Bush and his party's leader supported it, and economists then and now believed it saved the country from financial disaster.

McCain's stand on immigrants, now under fire from the right wing, is also principled.

Are there no Republicans left in the center to support you, John? Is getting the right-wing vote in the primaries more important than your principles? Apparently, so.

Why not stand firm? And if you lose, do what your buddy Joe Lieberman did. Run as an independent in the general election. - Ruth Moyerman, Scottsdale
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:50 AM
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1. I think McCain's integrity may be hiding in the same spot as those
weapons of mass destruction.

Maybe Bill Kristol and Richard Perle, if they aren't too busy with the peak oil thing, could join the posse to look for McCain's integrity. They'll have to bring some food and water, as it's likely to be a very long hunt.

In the news clip yesterday when McCain called for a fresh start on health care, he sounded like a trousers-ablaze liar. His voice oddly rose and fell with words he plainly didn't believe.

I'm glad we didn't elect John McCain to the presidency.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:54 AM
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3. He sold his soul a long time ago; I'm glad some people are
finally seeing this man without a moral compass for who he is. How many examples do they need?

I remember the term flip-flopper attributed to him during the primaries, and how appropriate that was. Someone even started a long-g-g list...

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:55 AM
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4. Yep. And that's a whole lotta flip-floppin' for someone McCain's age.
Slow down, John! Yer makin' us dizzy!
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:15 AM
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7. Leaving your disabled and disfigured wife for a slut gave it away.
I have no respect for a 'man' who does that.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:51 AM
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2. For me, he lost all credibility
when he picked Sarah to be his running mate. It all went downhill from there. I appreciated that he didn't want to exploit the Reverend Wright issue, but that was about the only decent thing he did on the campaign trail. He was part and parcel of the whole "palling around with terrorists" meme. He abandoned all of his principles to win the Presidential election, and he's continuing that path now. For repealing DADT if recommended by the generals? Not anymore. And now this TARP bullshit?

Screw you, John McCain. I am SO glad you are not the President.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 07:57 AM
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5. McGramps is not a good american
He is only where he is because of who he is. Couldn't fly a plane worth a shit, Sang like a canary when he was captured by the enemy at the detriment of his fellow prisoners. Screw him and the white horse he wants to ride on.

I have ZERO and I mean ZERO respect for him
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:41 AM
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14. "I have ZERO and I mean ZERO respect for him"
When he hugged Bush after what Bush and Karl had said about him I had to believe that he sang like a bird at the HH too.

Then there was the offer to put his old lady up for grabs at the biker show...(Miss Buffalo Chip)

Then threre was Sarah Palin...

And now he wants to dictate to Obama.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:10 AM
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6. Integrity? What you see is what he's always been
His own party can't stand him. But he's untouchable because of his prisoner of war status and because he was tortured. You'd think that today he would stand for being against torture. You'd think wrong.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:21 AM
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30. I agree.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:16 AM
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8. where's the integrity of a man who tried to get Charles Keating off the hook after taking bribes?
Keating 5 ring a bell with anyone? Failed Lincoln Savings and Loan? a 2.8 billion bailout?
He took more than 100K dollars (chump change) from convicted racketeer Keating in exchange for trying to get him off the hook. Keating bought off 4 other congresscritters as well.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:02 AM
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24. Yup. That crime destoryed some otherwise fine politicos but McC played dumb
and survived.

He honestly claimed that he didn't understand why taking Chuckie's private plane to Washington for Senate banking committee testimony raised anyone's eyebrows. Covering his own ass or too damn stupid to be in the Senate?

I vote both.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:23 AM
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9. The day he oozed across the stage to hug George Bush, that trail of slime he left behind ...
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 08:24 AM by 11 Bravo
was the tattered remnants of his integrity. Bush, whose entire South Carolina primary campaign consisted of push-poll phone calls about McCain's "nigger daughter" deserved a kick in the balls, not a fucking hug!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:26 AM
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10. You claim he had integrity. I do not agree.
I first heard his name in 76 or 77. One of the world's great musical geniuses told me about the racist politician from Arizona. So this idea of McCain's principles is an unproven theory. I say he had none, never did. He voted against the holiday honoring Dr King, claiming that at age 47, he had not really heard of King, who was killed when McCain was 32. I was 7 or 8 and I remember the day with clarity, I remember what my mother said to me, what I asked her. McCain said he was from a State without many African Americans, so he'd never known of King. I grew up in OC CA, at the time as white as rice in a blizzard. Yet I knew of King before he was killed and his murder had a large impact on me.
So principles? Not going to play that one, sorry.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:33 AM
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11. The poster quotes from this source:
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 08:33 AM by saltpoint
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/2010/03/01/20100301monlets014.html

-- and that newspaper is the high-profile newspaper of Arizona's most populated area.

It's significant for this kind of talk to be circulating because McCain is under what may be a strong primary challenge this cycle.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:08 AM
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19. Sorry, I still will not agree that he had principles that vanished
He never had any to begin with. Some of us have long memories. I will not be claiming that a racist, adulterous, anti gay Republican hack had principles to lose.
If others want to clutch their pearls and claim he used to be a great man, well, I simply will not join in.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:50 PM
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31. Your misgivings might be best directed at the support he receives
from his constituents in Arizona.

I doubt seriously that any of us are what ya might call big John McCain fans.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:06 AM
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25. "...state without many African-americans..." McCain think Arizona is strictly Phoenix,
Sedona, and Camelback and 24th Street.

He likely doesn't even know that Coolidge, Eloy, and Randolph even exist.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:34 AM
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12. I was unaware he had any.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:41 AM
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13. i'm not sure he had any.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:48 AM
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15. He was always scum. Even Nancy Reagan knew that from the way he treated his first wife.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:48 AM
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16. McCain's a desperate little toady..flailing around
He's probably not all that eager to have to stay home with Princess Moneybags in AZ, and apparently likes his bachelor-style life in DC..

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 08:58 AM
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17. Just because he's a POW, people have assumed he had integrity
He's a crotchety bastard who needs to retire. There's not a genuine bit of kindness in that guy.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:02 AM
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18. Did he ever have any?
Most days I can't even figure out what is position is on any particular issue!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:35 AM
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20. Based on his bio he has never had integrity, conscience or compassion
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:38 AM
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29. And yet it is assumed- totally uncritically- that he is some kind of paragon of integrity
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 10:40 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
mostly- or maybe solely- because of the fact that he served in the military, was shot down (while attempting to attack civilian targets I might add), captured, and tortured/imprisoned for several years. Of course, it wouldn't be like that if we actually had a free, fair, and independent press in this country but there you go.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:51 AM
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21. He sold his soul for a chance to be President
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:57 AM
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22. he never had any integrity. He had some very good PR guys
working for him. that's all he's had in his political career. haven't you been paying attention ?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:59 AM
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23. J.D. drank it with his milkshake...
:-)
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:07 AM
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26. Title sort of begs the question. Assumes he once had integrity. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:11 AM
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27. What McCain doesn't get is that people respect him for the tortured POW thing, but
are smart enough to know that's not really good enough qualies for a President.

He feels entitled to the CiC, regardless of Keating 5, his personal moral stupidity, and inability to face an argumentative challenge without hostility.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:16 AM
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28. McCain epitomizes the degeneracy of Republicans .
He doesn't have one shred of decency in his entire being. He is one nasty little fucking piece of garbage.
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