Won't the Senates 'HCR' version minus the PO just be another repackaged form of COBRA?

[Union Yes]

An 'insurance' plan that fewer and fewer can afford.

Ask anyone on Cobra or anyone who qualifies for Cobra but couldn't afford the premiums.

To me the Senate's 'plan' seems quite similar.

If the Senate thinks the left will just shut up if the Senate version passes, they best think again.

We will not shut up. Not until a strong PO is signed into law at the very least. If that doesn't solve the health care crisis in America, we'll continue the push toward Medicare for all.

To the Democratic Party and the DLC. If you think you can sweep the issue under the rug, and that HCR will just be forgotten, then remember who helps elect you. If you pass the Senate's version we will only get louder.

The PO will not go away. Progressives won't let it happen, silently.

Dems can get it kinda right the first time with a strong PO, or get it totally right by passing Medicare.

To the DLC/ConSERFadems, passing the Senate's version is like starting from square 1. You'll still have a collapsing HC system in need of severe reform if you pass the Senate's version.

Your work will not be done.

[DrDan]

1. don't believe so . . .

no mandate in COBRA that I am aware of.

[Union Yes]

5. I'm not refering to the mandate. I'm refering to the cost of premiums under the Senate's plan.

To me it seems similar to Cobra. High priced premiums. The Senate's version may or may not partially subsidize said premiums based on income or inabilty to afford. I'm no psychic, but my common sense tells me that we have another plan similar to Cobra on the horizon, if the Senate's version passes.

[Cleita]

2. It's a version of the FEHBP that Congress and other federal employees get

in exchanges with the Sec. of Health overseeing it. The big difference is that the federal government pays their premiums. We will for the most part have to pay for ours if our employers don't want to and if you don't qualify for assistance. Another problem is that federal employees are for the most part middle class and healthy. A far sicker and poorer population will be put into the mix which will raise premiums IMHO. I don't see how it won't.

[Statistical]

7. Exactly the health insurance under federal plan isn't cheap...

it is just cheap to the employee because govt piches in a big chunk.

Let me see if I can find my old plan information from when I was federal employee.

[Cleita]

9. It's on line if you can't find it. n/t

[Union Yes]

8. Yup, I agree. nt

[leftstreet]

3. Is COBRA MANDATED?!

I didn't think so

[Statistical]

4. So its worse than Cobra? Got it.

[Union Yes]

6. I am not refering to mandates, I'm refering to the cost of premiums. nt