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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:42 PM
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What kind of plane is this?
Cops are no longer causing a commotion, but now this plane flying above me is.
















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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:44 PM
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1. OMG It's a chemtrailer!
Get in your basement now!! :)
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:46 PM
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4. LOL.. :)
I'm doomed! Wait! sniff, sniff. That smells like weed!

:P

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:25 PM
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35. If it's weed, get outside NOW
Who in their right mind would turn down a free high?

:rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:51 PM
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11. lol
:rofl:
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:08 PM
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30. At least there isn't a rainbow effect...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:24 PM
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34. LOL I had forgotten all about that video
Too funny.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:04 PM
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44. I wonder how she is now. It's gotta be pretty hard to recover from that kind of Internet infamy...
:shrug:
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:18 PM
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59. Aw, crap!
Now I have to worry about what's in our water supply.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:45 PM
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2. Didn't the airshow organizers have a brochure?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:46 PM
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3. How very strange
(to catch up, a huge contingent of cops zero'd in on Xicano's neighborhood..)

See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7759237&mesg_id=7759237
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:47 PM
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5. It looks like a war plane from Vietnam or WW 2
Why is it flying like that. Did you notify the authorities?
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:52 PM
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13. Why don't you call for him?
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:55 PM
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17. It's obviously WWII.
Korea and Vietnam were jets.

This might be the P-51 Mustang, out best fighter in WWII and one of the best prop planes ever built.

The pictures are great!
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:56 PM
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18. Those kind of planes were still being used in the Vietnam conflict.
I could be mistaken.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:01 PM
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73. From 1965 on, I watched Walter Cronkite every night,
read the newspaper every day and read Time, Newsweek and U.S. News and World Report every week.

I never saw one of these planes in anything other than an antique plane show.

That plane was obsolete as soon as the first Nazi jet took off at the end of WWII.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:57 PM
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20. That' s my take too. They are among the only planes I know about
as a cousin had models of them all over his bedroom back in the fifties when I was growing up.

That little star on the wing tip is one of the give aways.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:47 PM
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6. It's been damaged by a Zero,and is looking for a place to ditch.
Mayday mayday.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:48 PM
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7. Looks like an old Spitfire from WWII
Hard to tell though.. could be built to look like one. Don't see them much except for Airshows. Or Skywriting.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:48 PM
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8. Looks like an AT-6 Texan
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 07:49 PM by Liberal In Texas
Old trainer. Is there an air show going on nearby?

Here's a picture of another one:


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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:48 PM
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9. BT-13/BT-15/SNV Valiant
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 07:49 PM by Xipe Totec


The aircraft that came to be known as the Valiant had the distinction of being produced in greater numbers than all other basic trainers produced in the USA in WWII. In fact, over 11,000 Valiants would be produced for the USAAF and USN in the period 1940-44. Initially referred to as the V-74, the first version for the USAAF was given the designation BT-13, while a later version with a different engine was referred to as the BT-15. The Valiants built for the U.S. Navy were the equivalent of the BT-13, and were called SNV by the Navy.



http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:08 PM
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45. Also known as the T28 in the Navy.
It was used in basic flight training for Navy pilots during the 60s
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:15 PM
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49. The T28 has a slightly more streamlined canopy
Very similar.

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:46 AM
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71. Oh yes I see.
Been a while sense I have seen one. but I have flown in one just like that.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:45 AM
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72. Lucky You!
:thumbsup:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:49 PM
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10. so what happened
to the freakin' cops? Did they just leave? Did they make an arrest? What? I know you may not know the particulars, but you should know that much...
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:52 PM
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12. They got the guy arrested and told me it was for a potato gun.
Potato gun? Ahh, yeah right.

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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:54 PM
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16. I believe it. The days of "hey, cut that out" are over.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:39 PM
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41. In this timorous, think-about-the-children age? I can believe it. (nt)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:36 PM
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52. No way all of that was for a potato gun. Unless he killed someone
with the potato gun. And why wouldn't he just come outside? Something is fishy.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:54 PM
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15. I think he's playin us
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:56 PM
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19. Me?
?
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:59 PM
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21. Yeah, you
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:03 PM by WatchWhatISay
Why did you start this new thread when there are so many waiting to see whats happening on that other thread?

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7759237

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:00 PM
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26. kinda what I was wondering . .
and wouldn't a bust like that have made some kind of news?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:22 PM
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33. In the LA area? Stuff like that often doesn't even make the news
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:23 PM by Garbo 2004
where I live, which is a much smaller city.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:02 PM
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28. I posted updates in the other thread.
I can't help it if the police would give me any more info other than some BS about a potato gun.

If you wish I can take another pic of the same location with a Democratic Underground bumper sticker to quilify the pics if you wish. In fact I guess I'll go ahead and do just that. Be back in a few.


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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:09 PM
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31. Here you go.




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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:56 PM
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55. Nice photoshop!!!!
Don't hurt me, just kidding.

:rofl:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:50 AM
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68. That would have been funny had
You had that Democratic Underground sticker placed right at the same time that Cop was lying there with the weapon..people would be like.. huh?? LOL!!
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:18 PM
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32. Where did you go?
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:19 PM by Xicano
Cat got you tongue?
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:29 PM
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37. No, I'm just not sure what those pictures are supposed to prove
And I'm waiting for the punchline
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:36 PM
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39. Ahhh, I would think they prove I live where the first pics showed the police earlier.
And what are you talking about now, what punchline? You simply made a kneejerk reaction and were incorrect about it. That's all that happened.


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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:53 PM
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14. Grumman F-6 Hellcat
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:59 PM
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23. Nope, the Hellcat's wheels fold to the back. It's an AT-6.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:59 PM
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22. Looks like this is the plane: "War Dog"
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:16 PM by Garbo 2004


Found here: http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-SNJ-5/1388586/M/

Video of plane at airshow with info of owner/pilot, John Collver: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuClEFV
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:01 PM
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27. Yes, that's a Texan.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:41 PM
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43. Wow that does look like the same plane.
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:41 PM by Xicano
Thanks Garbo 2004..

:)
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:17 AM
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65. I think that is the exact same plane, 17 WD, they found it. Doncha just love the internet?
:thumbsup:
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 07:59 PM
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24. Not a Mustang, Spitfire, Valiant, or Hellcat. Might be a Dauntless?
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:05 PM by Electric Monk
http://images.google.com/images?q=SBD-5+dauntless


edit: or Liberal In Texas is right and it's a Texan. Probably a Texan.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:00 PM
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25. A Flying Saucer.
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 08:03 PM by Marr
I know an alien when I see one.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:03 PM
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29. Does he know that WWII is over?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:32 PM
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38. When?!
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:47 PM
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53. According to Wikipedia, 1978
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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:27 PM
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36. It's an AT-6 Texan
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:37 PM
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40. I love how almost every guess in this thread's a different plane. (nt)
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:52 AM
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69. FIRST
/eleventy
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:39 PM
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42. It's a restored North American AT-6 Texan...commonly used for airshows
And it's also one of the most common "warbird" to be owned privately, since they are relatively inexpensive (for a warbird). P-51 Mustangs (WWII fighter) go for millions properly restored, whereas an AT-6 will often sell for a few hundred thousand in mint condition. If you're a collector of antique airplanes, a museum or other historical society, or even an airshow performer, the AT-6 is a sought-after aircraft because it's fairly affordable, lots of parts exist and they have fairly benign handling characteristics (plus fully aerobatic, being a military trainer).

They were not used with the US military during Vietnam, as earlier posters mentioned. They were, however, used by allied air forces (ie, South Vietnam) as trainers during the Vietnam era. Most AT-6s were retired from active US service during the 1950s, and replaced by the T-28 Trojan and T-34 Mentor (two other common "warbird" collectibles).
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:12 PM
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46. We're they strictly Navy? They look like the planes that used
to train near my childhood home. I lived near Ft Knox, and there was an ANG nearby in Louisville. I remember they had a Canberra. They'd use black powder to start the engine.


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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:40 PM
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61. The Navy version of the AT-6 was called the SNJ.
Wish I had one.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:10 AM
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62. It's a pretty plane. I remember looking up and seeing the
cockpit as the plane rolled to one side. After a while he had to complain because their diving was freaking out our hens. I was a little kid, I loved it.

I think dad made the harness for one of the delta wing planes. I think it was the Delta Dagger. My impression was that they were using him to make prototypes.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:14 PM
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48. My first thought was an AT-6...
pretty common sight in the 50s. They were replaced by the T-28...the first trainer(to my knowledge)with tricycle gear. The end of the tail draggers. Most good air museums have at least one of these.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:14 PM
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47. air
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:19 PM
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50. It's an AT-6 Texan. It's a trainer that was used to train fighter pilots during World War II.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:33 PM
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51. I haven't a clue about the plane but the pictures are wonderful.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 09:55 PM
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54. Is that a WW II P-5 or some such? There are a group of those that fly out of
Van Nuys Airport on Sunday mornings and buzz around.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:12 PM
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Post 22 photo and links ID's the specific plane & owner. nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:01 PM
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56. we're being invaded!
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:10 PM
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57. AT-6 Texan
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:12 PM
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58. It is a privately owned AT-6 that belongs to a retired Northrop Grumman test pilot
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:19 PM
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60. Ok Here's The Deal With The Plane. Its Part of Filming That's Going on Over at Fort MacArthur.
Ok, here's the deal with the plane. Just found out that Fort MacArthur (pics below) an old Army fort about three blocks from my house is filming something to do with The Band of Brothers. Here's a mock air raid they just did about 20 min's ago I took some video of.


I missed the first sounding of the air raid siren, but, at the end of this video you can hear the siren go off again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPlYJpDZ8Uo





Older pics I took of Fort MacArthur.




























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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 01:03 AM
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63. Its looks a little like Corregidor.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:36 AM
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66. Anniversary of 1942 "Battle of Los Angeles" which is observed by reenactment
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 01:47 AM
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64. Douglas dauntless dive bomber
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 01:52 AM by Confusious
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/douglas_dauntless.php

On Edit: change my vote to texan, different tail then dauntless.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:43 AM
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67. Looks like something from an Air Show..
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 04:00 AM by AsahinaKimi
That can't be a modern plane.. is it? Air Show in your area?


ON EDIT: Oh, I see..nevermind!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 04:58 AM
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70. An old AT-6, a trainer for WWII era pilots to learn to fly fighters of the period.
They learned to fly fast, powerful planes in this one. There are still quite a few flying, and they make a very distinctive sound because they have a radial air cooled engine.

The smoke is from a generator so you can see the trails. Air show.

mark
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:17 PM
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74. North American Aviation T-6 or AT-6 Texan
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 08:20 PM by DemoTex
The movies often used T-6s painted as Japanese Zeroes in WW-II films. I flew a neighbors T-6 back in the 1970s. Sweet!

The new JPATS trainer, used by the USAF and the USN, was dubbed the T-6A Texan-II. I had the pleasure of flying the new T-6A Texan-II for a magazine pilot report article a few years back. Sweet!



The "new" T-6A Texan-II (a derivative of the Swiss Pilatus PC-9)




T-6, or rather a USMC SNJ (basically the same), and T-6A Texans (I've flown 'em both!)
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