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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:03 AM
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75 people gathered at Sen. Amy Klobuchar's office to protest escalation of Afghan war in Marjah
February 19, 2010



Minneapolis, MN - About 75 people gathered here at the offices of U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar, Feb. 18, to protest a new escalation of the war in Afghanistan. U.S. and NATO forces have launched an attack on the city of Marjah, a city with over 80,000 residents. Following the dispatch of thousands of additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan, the attack on Marjah represents a new and bloody escalation.

Protesters lined the street in front of Klobuchars office holding signs and banners demanding an end to the attack on Majah and urging an end to the war and occupation. Initiated by the Iraq Peace Action Coalition, organizations participating in the protest included the Anti-War Committee, University of Minnesota Students for a Democratic Society and Women Against Military Madness.

A statement from the Iraq Peace Action Coalition noted, Tens of thousands of Afghan civilians are in imminent peril as U.S. and NATO military forces enter the city of Marjah. Will Marjah, Afghanistan suffer the same fate as Fallujah, Iraq, which the U.S. also attacked, leaving thousands dead and injured and hundreds of buildings and homes destroyed and damaged?

Meredith Aby of the Anti War Committee stated, It is important we have a visible and active anti-war movement that responds to moves to escalate the war. We need to be in the streets demanding the U.S. gets out of Afghanistan and that all U.S. occupations of other countries come to an end.


read: http://www.fightbacknews.org/2010/2/19/stop-attack-marj...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:10 AM
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1. End this stupid war....
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:24 AM
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6. K&R - End the AGGRESSION
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:15 AM
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2. Kudos to those Minnesotans who did this. nt
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:28 AM
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3. Af/Pak is a necessary war.
We must not forget about 9/11 and the actors behind it. Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants are still being harbored in this region planning new attacks on America.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:43 AM
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4. yet here you are, hammering away on a keyboard..
why not support your cause in a more effective manner?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:46 AM
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8. +1000
The old and wealthy to send the young and financially challenged to "kill and die" for the benefit of the corporations comprising the Military Industrial Complex.

We're NOT at war in AF/PAK. :wtf:

Bring the troops home !!!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:43 AM
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7. We can't fight or defend our 'security' against fugitive suspects in Pakistan
. . . by killing unassociated Taliban in Afghanistan. All that military presence and action is doing is produce the opposite effect of what the president asserts this mission is all about: "winning Afghan hearts and minds' and reducing the potential for resistant, anti-American (interests) violence. Just asserting that there's a risk doesn't mean that our forces fighting and dying in Afghanistan will or can have any positive effect or consequence on that perceived danger at all.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:23 PM
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10. Afghanistan did not do 9/11. nt
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:37 PM
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11. The operation was coordinated from within Afghan borders
Bin Laden and his henchmen directed the attacks of 9/11 from caves in the country.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:38 PM
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12. So? How does that give us the right to topple the government?
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 12:39 PM by anonymous171
What if the minutemen staged a terrorist attack on Mexico city? Would the Mexican government have the right to invade and topple the US government? If you answer no, then you are a huge hypocrite.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:53 PM
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13. The Taliban is an extremist regime
The Afghans are better off without them running the central government.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:14 PM
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18. North Koreans would be a lot better without their current government.
Should we invade them without just cause?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:57 PM
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15. bullshit. bin-Laden and crew could have thought up the 9-11 plot anywhere.
. . . but, it's more complicated than just sitting somewhere and plotting.

from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September...


The first hijackers to arrive in the United States were Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who settled in the San Diego area in January 2000. They were followed by Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, and Ziad Jarrah early in the summer of 2000 to undertake flight training in south Florida. The fourth pilot, Hani Hanjour, arrived in San Diego in December 2000. In the spring and early summer of 2001, the "muscle hijackers", who were trained to help overpower and take over the aircraft, arrived . . .

Hijackers: Marwan al-Shehhi (United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian) Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian). Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian). Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).


By your logic, we should have invaded and occupied Saudi Arabia . . .
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:05 PM
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16. Oh geeze dude,
Osama is dead, has been for years according to all of those who would be in the know. After all, how long can you expect a brittle diabetic to wander around the mountains toting a dialysis machine?

There are a less than a hundred members of Al Qaeda in the area. The people that are fighting us are doing so because we invaded their country.

If you want to get to the actors behind 911 then why aren't we going after Saudi Arabia?

This war is not a necessary or good war. It is an illegal, immoral war that we need to end, now.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:08 PM
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17. There is no evidence to the conspiracy theory that bin Laden is dead.
If he were it would have been trumpeted by the M$M and his body would have been paraded out.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:40 PM
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19. Why would his body be paraded out? A live bin Laden keeps this war going, a dead one would end it
Here, educate yourself,
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm >
<http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06... />
<http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/26/binladen... />
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg >

So I guess that the FBI and world leaders are all part of this "conspiracy" hmmm. Sad, really, you're like so many others. Tell you a truth that you don't want to hear and you dismiss it as a conspiracy.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:00 PM
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21. A common meme by the bin Laden is dead conspiracy theorists
is that his being deceased would end the war in Af/Pak.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:04 PM
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22. A common tactic by those who can't handle the truth
Is to call those who can conspiracy theorists.

Do you honestly think that the people in this country would support an ongoing war in that region of bin Laden turned up dead? Somehow I doubt it. Bush used the bin Laden specter to get us into war, and Obama is using it to keep the war going. Why? What are we fighting for? What will victory look like?

Meanwhile I noticed that you have no answer for those links I gave you, you know, the ones where the FBI and various world leaders are certain that bin Laden is dead. Are they conspiracy theorists as well?
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:12 PM
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23. Why would the media not report it then?
What do they have to gain from this? A journalist would become world famous if he/she was first to report the death of the greatest terrorist in human history.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:30 PM
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24. Hmm, like say a reporter from GE, 'scuse me, NBC
Who makes billions off of war. Or somebody from Viacom, 'scuse me, CBS, whose head, Redstone, served with and is still close to military intelligence. Or let's talk about Fox :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

But then again, if you go back to my links above, you do see that the media has reported on it. It just didn't get much play or push. Why should it, there's money to be made all around.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:32 PM
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26. I see a lot of you are arguiing with 'ignored'.
:)
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:19 AM
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5. Klobuchar, get your head out of the lobbyists' cesspool
Join Al Franken and start acting like a real Democrat.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:55 PM
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14. What's your problem with Klobuchar?
Are you from MN? Do you know something I don't? She seems OK to me.
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12AngryMen Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:22 PM
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9. Here's a good article
Battle for Marjah: The US Has Already Lost

by Dave Lindorff

The fighting is still underway in the town of Marjah, in what is being described as the first battle in Obama's War in Afghanistan, or alternatively as the biggest battle of the US War in Afghanistan. But already, the US has lost that battle.

It lost it from day one, when troops fired missiles in to a Marjah house, killing 12 civilian occupants--half of them children. And it lost it further when another three more civilians were blown away by US-led forces. Finally, it lost the battle as much of the town has been simply destroyed by the fighting.

The supposed goal of the assault on Marjah was to demonstrate that the US would bring the wonders of good government and peace to the Pashtun tribal people who have endured a generation or more of war, and who have been living under the "cruel tyranny" of the Taliban in recent years. The new strategy of President Barack Obama and his hand-picked military leader in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, was to show that the US military could fight the Taliban without causing civilian deaths and casualties. Protecting civilian lives would be a priority, they claimed.

The problem with such a strategy is that the whole reason American forces have been able to crush resistance, as they did in the lighting invasion of Iraq in 2003, or the overthrow of the Taliban government of Afghanistan in late 2001, has been their callous disregard for civilian lives, which have been coldly labelled "collateral damage."


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http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/18-9
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:47 PM
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20. But..but..we must be protected from the Taliban's submarines!! K&R
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 05:31 PM
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25. HUGE KNR
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