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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:23 AM
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Where is the Democratic message ??
They seem to be running scared since Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy's seat and Evan Bayh resigned. They act as if the world is crashing down around them. After all, they only have 58 Senators with Bayh gone. How can they do battle with only 58 Senators?

But they are looking at more losses. Predictably, it is not the liberal Democrats that are in trouble, it is the androgynous Democrats in red states. They are not "Republican" enough to win their races. So the Democrats are worried about losing the Senate and the House. What can they do??

First of all, they could return to being the Party of the People. They could speak to voters in common populist language that they can understand and gives them reason and hope. But that would be too much to sacrifice, I suppose? So they wring their hands and suffer sleepless nights because they are losing control of their majority.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:25 AM
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1. After the beep.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:26 AM
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2. Rediscover their inner Happy Partisan Warrior...
Tell the GOP to fuck off and ram some actual reform thru Congress on straight party-line vote.

Not that it will ever happen. They'll continue to waffle until they get their asses handed to them in November. Then they will declare that the problem was they were not conservative and/or bipartisan enough.

Rinse, repeat... until we finally achieve true 3rd-world status.

:banghead:
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:29 AM
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5. This does seem pretty likely.
It's a sad thing. In fairness the "liberal" media is pretty clearly pushing this story; no matter how much Obama and congressional Dems cave they are painted as liberal extremists.

Bryant
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:27 AM
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3. the message is they dont need us, the progressive base, that is
the result will be that they fail in November and then turn and blame us for not getting out the vote or not donating enough.

Tell me that the "Progressives" are not the base, and I'll put the results of Nov 2008 against Nov 2010 and we'll see who's right.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:28 AM
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4. The message to progressives is ...
Shut up. They don't want to know our opinions or needs.

I think progressives should stop donating to the DNC, DLC, or any other group who doesn't appreciate their support.

Guys like Bayh, for instance. Wouldn't give him a nickel.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:33 AM
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6. The Dems will worry about it and do nothing until they give it all away to the GOP.
Then the GOP will be in control again, and they will not hesitate to run roughshod over Congress. In short, they will do the same things they did during the first G.W. Bush term. The Dems could have learned a few lessons from that period, but...they want to keep their powder dry for the REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF.

What that stuff is, no one seems to know. Nothing that important has ever come up, it would seem. :( :shrug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:37 AM
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8. If they replay that episode once again...
they will lose their base and a new Democratic Party will replace them. The foundation is already in place in the House and the Senate with the Progressives already in office.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:35 AM
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7. I wonder if they didn't like the Ted Kennedy message...
that said, to paraphrase, "Don't throw away something good because it's not perfect."

That says compromise more than anything anyone else has said, and I personally didn't like hearing it in connection with health care reform.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:38 AM
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9. Republicans do not compromise on their "principles"...
and neither should we. Then you stand for nothing.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:41 AM
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10. The Party is starting to look too big to fail. nt
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 11:44 AM
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11. Be Responsible - Govern
.

It is time. The Democratic Party has exhausted every possible excuse to avoid doing the right thing. The people voted for members of Congress to govern.

The members of the Democratic Party have run out of excuses, it is time. No more half-stepping, no more posturing. It is time to bring it to govern.

Bring the major legislative action on Health Care to an "Up Or Down" vote.

Should any piece of legislation be threatened with a filibuster, the Democratic Party response MUST be "Bring it to the floor." Give the piece of legislation an up or down vote.

No more 'sun was in my eyes and it was too dark to see, the world is flat no body likes me' excuses. Bring on the vote and govern!

Ema Nymton
~@:o?
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